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A custom yacht designed by Steve Jobs, dubbed Venus, has set sail just a year after the Apple founder's death. Steve Jobs yacht Venus The good ship Venus, minus the intended captain Jobs, French designer Phillipe Starck, and Apple's Jon Ive all collaborated on the ship, which is based on a minimalist design that most fans …

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Does it

have Maps?

Snark aside, it's certainly a lovely ship - although possibly not very practical for anything except puttering around in.

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> it's certainly a lovely ship

You think so?

I'd have described it as "hideous"...

Vic.

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Re: Does it

Surely it's missing its paddle wheels? ;)

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Re: Does it

It's a miniature Herald Of Free Enterprise, surely?

Too soon? :P

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Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

Form over function, style over substance.

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Re: Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

Yes, that was my immediate reaction too.

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Re: Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

It was this paragraph that suggested it, Doug:

"The design suggests this isn't really an ocean-going craft, since those hull windows would be a liability in very rough seas and the doors and windows of the superstructure aren't slanted but run at a 90 degree angle from the deck. This make the ship trickier to steer in high winds and much less resistant to wave damage."

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Re: Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

Can't disagree with you there... They say St Jobs had a hand in the design, what did he do? Hide any of the real designers tools which weren't comprised purely of right angles?

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Re: Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

Ever taken a minute to consider perhaps that is exactly what he intended for it? You design things for a purpose and clearly it's no ice breaker.

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No, it isn't..

Most Apple gear is actually well designed, and the looks reflect the decent engineering inside (except when they screwed up with the iPhone 4 antenna). So it had form that followed function.

This tub has no form, and cannot function. I personally think it's bone ugly, I have seen far better yachts for the money - and those are sea worthy. Epic fail..

All IMHO, of course, but I'd name it "fugly"..

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Re: Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

Was this a collaboration with the Ghost of Howard Hughes, he of spruce goose fame?

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Re: Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

I know it looks nasty.

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Ugly AND impractical.

And a lovely cheerful shade of battleship grey, to boot.

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Thank you for summing up my thoughts.

It's hideous.

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What it might have looked like if Starck had had free reign:

http://www.1designperday.com/2009/08/08/3-creative-yachts-designs-by-starck-more/

I can only assume that Starck had responsibility for some of the interior fittings and decor, though not on the bridge judging from the photos. Maybe photos of his contribution haven't been released to smack him on the wrist for disclosing his involvement earlier in the year?

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I have to agree, it looks like a houseboat and was clearly designed by people who have little concept of seaworthiness. Philippe Starck is a past master at form over function as anyone who has ever tried to use his orange squeezer will know.

Perhaps in a few years Hoseasons could get it at a knocked down price and do canal holidays with it?

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I'm not sure you can judge all his work by one lemon squeezer.. Though Starck is towards the 'form' end of the spectrum - the commission that made his name was interior furnishings for the French presidential palace- the bags he design for Samsonite were excellent. I especially like the shoulder straps that were on seat-belt style spools, so wouldn't catch on door handles when the bag was carried by its handle.

I wasn't keen on those mice he designed for MS, though. His Lacie HDD enclosures are alright, if you like that soft of thing.

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@Smallbrainfield

>Philippe Starck is a past master at form over function as anyone who has ever tried to use his orange squeezer will know.

I use Juicy Salif every day - it is perfect. It gets all the juice out of the orange, straight in to my glass with no mess whatsoever.

All my friends who see it say 'It looks nice, but it doesn't work'. I don't know how they all 'know' this, as I'm the only one who actually owns one. And yet when they then have a go it seems to work perfectly for them too....

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Agreed, it looks to me like someone has just designed the first sea-going garden shed.

Bloody awful looks.

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Re: Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

It does look a bit like a Frank Lloyd Wright scout hut on water if you squint a bit. But without the decomposing pebbledash.

Or maybe a severely minimalist Guggenheim gone bad and designed by Swedes in a bad mood instead?

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The juice runs down the legs? On second thoughts .....

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@AC 05:56

"Ever taken a minute to consider perhaps that is exactly what he intended for it? You design things for a purpose and clearly it's no ice breaker."

Why, yes. You're absolutely right. It wasn't designed to be sea-worthy because there are no compatible docks out there that will accept it. It's also probably missing GPS navigation, relying on WiFi location instead (making navigation more than 100 meters off-shore very difficult). I just hope they don't park it in San Francisco fog. If it gets inside, it may turn all the indicators red, voiding the warranty.

Also, I wonder if its on-board audio system is mono- and why they didn't use a clickwheel for steering. Other than that, as you say - fit for purpose.

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Re: Perfect embodiment of everything Apple.

Form over function, possibly. Style over substance, not so much. It would have to have style.

Even if I was a gazillionaire, this is not a boat that would remotely interest me. The only redeeming feature is the destroyer bow, a design I might incorporate into my (imaginary) mega-yacht as a nod to my RN forbears.

FWIW, Shenandoah is much more to my taste.

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I really do wonder what he might have got if he had built his own private jet? I am starting to imagine that it could be accurately represented in ASCII Art.

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"Aesthetics and technology were closed books to him and, had he had his way, burnt and buried books as well." - Douglas Adams

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Thanks, el Reg, for borking my Ascii Art!

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"I use Juicy Salif every day" - I thought human trafficking was frowned on at El Reg ;)

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Ah. I thought it looked a tad weak in the aerodynamics department.

(I am intrigued that you got downvoted for this post, by the way. Perhaps some reader loves the Reg so much they cannot stand the thought of someone criticizing its comment-formatting?)

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"a minimalist design that most fans will recognize"

I take it that you mean fans of Mies van der Rohe, rather than Apple fans? It certainly has the look of his pre-war buildings.

BTW, a design that extends structures beyond their functional boundaries is not minimalist, but I'd still like to party on it on a suitably calm lake.

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Re: "a minimalist design that most fans will recognize" the wave

I wonder FEA and FEM were done to know whether or not a party of 80 dancers can do "The Wave" without impairing deck strength and intact stability. (Do not grumble.. I watched a Discovery Channel video of that new building with a top floor that looks like a surf board. The engineers of it actually ran simulations of many dance songs to find out frequency response of the structure to risky songs that might imperil the building.)

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Re: "a minimalist design that most fans will recognize"

I was thinking Venice, in the lagoon, in calm weather ;)

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Reg Effect?

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My server can handle one kilo-hugh, its the new metric for all websites doncha know. Obviously equal to the 356 Kilo Newtons generated by 3 million people clicking their mice at once.

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Reminiscent of...

...the steamers on Ullswater but all glossy and shiny.

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iBoat

iBoat v U-boat

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Give me a trusty Type VII any day.

Better still, an Elektroboot.

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OH NOES!!!

Don't tell me Apple have a patent on non-rounded corners too?!!!

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No the patent on right angles is held by someone else and apple cannot afford the license!

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It looks as if

... it comes with a built in fun police. Have a martini too many, and they will discretely escort you to your iCabin

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Gruesome

It combines the form of a three week old dog turd with the elegance of uPVC windows. Jobs could have done something worthwhile for a worthy cause, instead he inflicts this on the planet. The blind are VERY lucky.

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I've yet to encounter a dog turd with windows and corners. What sort of dogs are you talking about, mate?

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I don't know what sort of dog he's talking about, but those corner would likely cause it to yelp a lot when taking a dump!

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Seeing iDogs?

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That a boat or a coffin

Given the design issues for overly mild sea's and the general shape; It woud appear that Mr Jobs subconsiously designed his own coffin, albiet a year late. For a pointless product it does have a lot of points and sharp edges compared with fruity releases in the past.

Still, could kit it out as a mobile iStore and in some ports/area's it would actualy make sence per square foot. Coasting up and down the country, advertising and sales all in one. WIth that in mind the design becomes more palatable and shows genius.

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Re: That a boat or a coffin

I think retrospectively it would have been beneficial had you paid attention in school.

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Thinking retrospectively in public makes toilet planning retorical. Especially when you involve schools Jim

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God that thing is ugly

and not fit for purpose, either.

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Re: God that thing is ugly

I'm no naval engineer, but I'm confident the people who built it know better than some commentards whether it is 'fit for purpose'. Their previous clients include Roman Abromovich, Paul Allen, a Brunei prince, the Ford family and many more, some having made repeat orders over the decades.

I don't know how someone can think for a moment that by just looking at a photo they know better than the people who make these things for a living, and have made the calculations and performed the tests.

By all means comment on its appearance, but to knock other professionals about whose trade you know little is just discourteous and makes you look a bit daft.

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Those professionals sometimes would like a good keelhauling for some of their customers. One female member of the Ford family is know for walking on her semi-finished yacht, pointing to the solid walnut veneer in the master cabin, and say "paint it all blue". Making the 3 expert carpenters, who had been working 2 weeks nonstop on those panels, leave the wharf whilst crying their eyes out..

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