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It's come to our attention that a crack squad of US students is poised to make an attempt on El Reg's Guinness World Record for the highest launch of a paper plane. On 28 October 2010, our Paper Aircraft Released Into Space (PARIS) Vulture 1 spaceplane glided into the history books from a dizzying 89,591ft* (27,310m). Well, it' …

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Aye, jolly good luck to them.

PARIS has spent enough time on top, after all.

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Let the race begin

Science is fun for all

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Bow release

Any indication of how they're triggering the release though?

As said, best of luck to them.

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Re: Bow release

I should imagine they will be running a linkage from a servo to the trigger of the release aid. I don’t think that is such a good idea, compound release aids are very smooth at releasing bow strings and can hold 80 lbs + of draw weight without issue but even with something like a Tru Ball – which uses ball bearings on the end of the jaws – I don’t think they will survive the environment without locking solid, I’d be very worried about the cold. Plus, for obvious reasons the pull of most release aids tends to be fairly light and the sear quite sensitive to knocks and buffeting. I may be wrong, I’ve never shot a bow at that sort of altitude before but I would hope they would give it some serious testing (I’m half tempted to put a release aid in the freezer myself and see what happens).

Good luck to them, surely their next step is going to be a rocket powered beastie.

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Re: Bow release

Given how confused they are about the terminology of the release aid, I don't have much confidence that it will work - premature release seems quite likely, but also it seems unlikely that they will have enough weight on their 'string' for it to work as expected, if vibration on the way up hasn't shaken it loose (no pun intended)

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I wonder how far it will fly?

The way Paris ended up so close to the launch point caused me to wonder whether it didn't so much fly as plummet...

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Re: I wonder how far it will fly?

It won't fly - it will stall and spin on release and will never recover, with such a high wing aspect ratio.

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Re: I wonder how far it will fly?

I think you are forgetting about the heroic pilot they had on board, you should give the little hero full credit for managing to fly it back so close to the launch point.

Looks like the yanks have not appreciated this either.

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As much as I'd love to see the El-Reg team with PARIS on top, I'd also love to hear them say "We'd have got away with it if it hadn't been for them meddling kids!"

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RE: "see the El-Reg team with PARIS on top"

I really, really, wish you hadn't said that. Where's the mind bleach?

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Woo Hoo!!!

Go Screaming Eagles!!! Poor bastards, this is the most exciting thing to do in Evansville Indiana.

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Excuse me

On 28 October 2010, our Paper Aircraft Released Into Space (PARIS) Vulture 1 spaceplane glided into the history books from a dizzying 89,591ft* (27,310m).

Now didn't we have a poll not so long ago with regards to measurements?

Metric only, with exception to aircraft altitude in feet, and a pint of beer.

Which begs two questions. Does Paris actually classify as an aircraft? If so then by El Reg rullings, you shouldn't have included the metric conversion. And if not, then you shouldn't have used feet. Disgraceful.

And if you're going to convert it, then why not into a unit we all understand.and tell is it soared from the height of 2962.1849 double decker buses. Or 197.4788 Brontosaurus.

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Does Paris actually classify as an aircraft?

Undoubtedly!

I was also wondering why the altitude was also provided in metres - over-zealous sub-editing?

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"And if you're going to convert it, then why not into a unit we all understand.and tell is it soared from the height of 2962.1849 double decker buses. Or 197.4788 Brontosaurus."

I don't think you can use double decker buses or dinosaurs for height only length. I think for height you need to use Nelson's Column so 525x the height of nelson's column.

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Now that's...

... a unit of measurement that would attract Paris' attention...

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Dear El Reg SPB

If they beat the record will there be a PARIS 2 after LOHAN?

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Re: Dear El Reg SPB

There definitely should! And give it enough lift to make it fly to another continent !

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Quote please

What has the SPB playmanaut got to say on this matter?

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Re: Quote please

He was quoted as saying...

"Spell my name right lawn ornament boy!"

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Re: Quote please

Playmonaut looks really serious about his mission - I'd probably bet he's training and got a helicopter on standby as we speak?

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snub at el-reg?

I noticed that in their coverage of the PARIS project they offer 3 links, one to the BBC, one to the Daily Mail and one to the Telegraph. "The Register" doesn't get a mention, you're just a team of "space enthusiasts".

For that affront I think you should consider shooting the plane down with LOHAN.

Have a good weekend everyone.

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Re: snub at el-reg?

I can see the headlines now:

"British plane shoots down US experimental aircraft over US soil."

"US president Barack Obama authorises US Navy Seal assoult on 10 Downing Street"

"The bodies of David Cameron and Nick Clegg buried at sea from the deck of the aircraft carrier USS George HW Bush"

"Lester Haines wins sweeping landslide victory at the general election"

Too far?

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Re: snub at el-reg? @John Colman

You forgot to add "...and appoints Lewis Page as the new Secretary of State for Defence"

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Re: snub at el-reg? @John Colman

You forgot to add "...and appoints Lewis Page as the new Secretary of State for Defence"

Surely Lewis would be better as Minister for the Environment.

Ta, it's the one with the portable icemaker in the pocket.

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I see, they have a wind tunnel at hand...

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Maybe a bit late now

But did no-one think of giving Felix Baumgartner a paper plane to chuck out just before his own exit?

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Re: Maybe a bit late now

Damn, that would have been so easy. A quick piece of A4 photocopy paper folded into a dart, he could have used all that waiting time going up to make it in, then pop it out of the door just before jumping.

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Re: Maybe a bit late now

Can I be churlish and suggest that Mr Baumgartner, although obviously a tough cookie, had rather a lot of planned advantages, compared to Aleksander Konovalev who had to eject unexpectedly at Mach 2.6 / 59,000ft in 1981.... and did so properly with his ejector seat, despite fire, spinning and disintegration, and then got back to work the next month. At the time this was assumed to be the world record, as no-one knew for sure about the

SR-71 breakup and unassisted bailout.

In fact it looks like he might still be working at the Sokol (Eagle) aircraft plant in Nizhny Novgorod (Gorky) maybe still testing stuff, but pretty close to retirement if he is. I have no idea if he is chatty or not, maybe I should email or text him ;)

http://www.flightgear.dk/mach26eject.htm

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Re: Maybe a bit late now

And that would have been an actual "paper plane" not just a model made of paper...

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Glide or fall?

From the picture it looks like their glider will have a very poor glide slope, with such thin wings and a fat fuselage it will have high drag and low lift. Of course with the extra weight of that electronics payload it should reach a pretty good forward speed, perhaps sufficient to rip off those flimsy little wings. Not sour grapes, honest, just making an observation. I look forward to seeing it plummet.

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Re: Glide or fall?

If at no point does it "glide", is it still considered a paper aeroplane?

(Might just be 3 paper planes instead...)

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Their Project Website

https://sites.google.com/site/usihab2011/paper-airplane

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Half hearted

Have they got a vaguely suggestive name? A lego figure in the pilot's seat?

Not really trying.

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Re: Half hearted

Perhaps they are going to fit in a Buzz-Lightyear, given the shape of the fuselage.

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Just curious...

Why no one has thought to use a lifting body design?

Would make things a bit easier in terms of delivery.

Flight however would be a different matter.

Cue to Lego Steve Austin screen shot!

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They will be using the same software for tracking as used by PARIS, Their query about the software is how I got the heads up that the flight was happening. For those interested the software is APRSIS32

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balloon burst at around 87,900ft would have got slightly higher, but not by enough, the plane's tracker did not work, so I don't know yet if it released. PARIS retains the record.

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PARIS retains record

Yup, I have the balloon burst at 26,792m (87,899ft). Looks like PARIS is still the Guinness World Record holder.

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the tracker on the plane lost lock and was transmitting the default 33333M (109372FT) So at least they can Radio Direction Find it. in case anyone wonders about that

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Given the Bonid articles on El Reg, perhaps the best way to deal with the American plane would be to launch LOHAN into orbit & arrange for the front to open & swallow it. - just a thought

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