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We're obliged to reader Roger Denholm for alerting us to the best example of nominative determinism we've seen for many moons - the case of Shit Fun Chew and the orally urinating turtle. New Scientist reports that Alex Yuen Kwong Ip of the National University of Singapore has been studying Pelodiscus sinensis, known to its mates …

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Meh

Hello and welcome to 2006.

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Ig Nobel Material

If ever there was!

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...there was, there was, if ever a whiz of a wiz there was?

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Thomas Crapper

Obligatory wiki link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper

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Thomas Crapper is not an example of nominative determinism; the word is named after him.

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No, crap meant defacate and crapper mean defacating place for hundreds of years before Thomas Crapper was born. He was lucky in being able to make good business from his name.

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crap in the OED

The earliest mention in the OED of this definition of crap as a verb comes from 1846. As a noun, the earliest mention comes from 1898; crapper’s earliest mention comes from 1932, in the States, seven years before its use in Steinbeck’s Grapes of Wrath. What preceded crapper as the name of the site? Crapping case, crapping ken, and crapping-castle.

Earlier definitions of crap include “money” in the 18th century (which might explain the phrase to give a crap) and “dregs of beer or ale”. The earliest definitions, from the 15th century, include “the residue from rendering, boiling, or melting fat” (cracklings), “a name of some plants” (such as buckwheat), and “the husk of grain” (chaff).

If you have proof of the “defecation” meaning from hundreds of years before Crapper’s birth, please send your evidence to Oxford University Press, where it would undoubtedly be gratefully received and incorporated into the next edition of their dictionary.

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The Turtle moves!

(well, wees anyway)

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Oh Mr. Heinous, how could you?

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Is Shit his family name or his given name. Don't the Chinese put the surname first? If that is the case then there must be plenty of Shits in China, probably plenty of little Shits too. Maybe there is a monk in the family, addressed as Holy Shit no doubt. That ought to get you started.

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Shit Fun Chew is a *she*

And her family name is Chew (common enough)...

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So, if Chew is her family name, then her full name is Chew Shit Fun.

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Re: Shit Fun Chew is a *she*

It is. I don't know why we need to Anglicize Asian's names.

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Re: Shit Fun Chew is a *she*

It is, actually. Here's her bio page.

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I was born with fuck all, and I'll die just as poor

I recall there being some (turtles, not researchers) that could breathe through their butt. Bit of searching gets the Fitzroy River turtle as an example.

Urinating through the mouth though... a quick read says it's actually discharging urea. Still, amazing.

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Urinating through the mouth, is that what our politicians are doing on TV? Heh, lets give the chinese another grant and let them investigate how many forum users are defecating through their keyboards.

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So I give a couple of relevant bits of info (butt-breathing turtles and the fact that it's not oral urination but urea discharge), and I get this kind of response?

Which one of us is 'defecating through their keyboard', may I ask.

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I'm not surprised that there's a turtle which urinates from its mouth, given the tendency of politicians to talk through their anuses.

As for forum posters "defecating through their keyboards" -- priceless (a literal LOL for me). :)

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And just to bring this up to date, the BBC is reporting on the weather damage to Storm Hughes' house.

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Weather Man at Port of Tilbury

...was Captain Gale, not so long ago.

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"Orally urinating turtle boffin in nominative-determinism classic case"

So, is it a boffin who studies orally urinating turtles, or an orally urinating boffin who studies regular turtles?

I mean, really. You can do better than that.

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Chew shit fun?

Bit of a minority interest.

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Some Scientists!

So we have observed behaviour in the Fitzroy turtle that can "Breathe through it's butt"...

Now we have observed behaviour in the Chinese soft shelled turtle that can wee out of it's mouth.

Can someone PLEASE teach scientists the correct way to hold a turtle the right way up!

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