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It’s 1962 and John F Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev are facing off over nuclear missiles in Cuba while Telstar bounces the first satellite transmission through space. Meanwhile, James Bond is making his cinematic debut in Dr No in London, with Sean Connery bringing Ian Fleming’s naval officer turned secret agent from book to …

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Excellent Mr Bond.

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Was a plot to take out Silicon Valley realistic?

Spoiler alert - the villain is a patent lawyer

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Surely that should be...

Physics of a Vodka Martini!

Even Dr No knew to make Bonds Martini with vodka rather than the traditional gin. (Because of course Bond is such a secret agent that everyone knows his favorite tipple :p)

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Re: Surely that should be...

Well if you're going to be THAT picky then how come he ALWAYS uses his real name?!

I was going to quote "You expect me to talk??" from Goldfinger, but hey EVERYONE knows that! So I'll kick off the debate as to who's the best Bond: for me it's:

1. Daniel Craig

2. Sean Connery

3. Timothy Dalton

4. Roger Moore

5. All the others...

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Have you tasted the difference :) As a lover of Vodka Martini I can say it's not picky if it's your drink :P

Favorite Bonds...

1) Pierce Brosnan

2) Roger Moore (I grew up with him as Bond...)

3) Tough one. It's a choice between Sean Connery, Daniel Craig or Timothy

4) George Lazenby

Though that doesn't mean I don't like the Australian - the ending to OHMSS makes him a very human bond...

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He uses his real name cos he's harder than Chuck Norris!

They may be cheese but I do like Bond.

Connery & Moore will not be surpassed for me.

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Re: Surely that should be...

Dalton > Brosnan? Gimme a brek!

Goldeneye opens with Bond bungee jumping off a dam hundreds of feet above a munitions factory, grappling on to the roof of said factory and breaking in with a laser torch. The first ever close up of Brosnan's Bond is as he knocks out a henchman with the line "sorry - forgot to knock".

Dalton's first close up? Getting a fright. From a monkey.

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Re: Surely that should be...

Or maybe:

1) Pierce Brosnan

2) Sean Connery

3) Daniel Craig

4) Roger Moore

5) George Lazenby

6) Timothy Dalton

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Brosnan: Yes, a homage to Roger Moore type character with the one liner (and poor plot!). And just... Who could argure against Pierce?!?

Dalton: I just thought he was one of the closest to the book character - who is, lets face it, a pretty cold killer!

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Physics of a Vodka Martini!

Has anyone ever added up the amount of alcohol Bond is supposed to have imbibed over the decades ?

--

imbibedpast participle, past tense of im·bibe (Verb)

Verb:

Drink (alcohol).

Absorb or assimilate (ideas or knowledge): "propaganda you imbibed in your youth".

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Hmmm...it's easier to evaluate them based on individual films rather than overall:

1) Daniel Craig in Casino Royale

2) Sean Connery in Goldfinger

3) Pierce Brosnan in Goldeneye

4) Roger Moore in Live And Let Die.

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+1, except I'd put Moore in the "All the others" category.

Bond is a killer. Moore wasn't, and nor was Brosnan. Both of them were all gadgets and not much else, because they had nothing else going for them. The key thing about Bond as acted by Craig, Connery and Dalton is that although they have some cool gadgets, they're equally able to belt the crap out of someone with their bare hands. The only fight Moore's Bond ever properly won was with two girls, which says everything you need to know.

Also those guys were/are happy to be doing it themselves instead of relying on stand-ins. In "The Living Daylights", there's a fight on a Jeep. That's actually Dalton hanging off the roof by his fingers at 50mph on a mountain road, not some stuntman.

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1) David Niven

2) All the rest are number two

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Re: Surely that should be...

"I was the first actor to play James Bond... and the last" - a impressionist doing Connery, and getting it right.

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I can see what you're saying about Brosnan, especially in the very sub par The World Is Not Enough. At the beginning of Goldeneye though, the scene with the power plant, he does have a fair amount of his old ruthlessness, given that he was willing to blow up his fellow agent in order to complete the mission, not to mention the scene where they're beating the crap out of each other on the radio transmitter.

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Nah, David Niven in Casino Royale was better than Daniel Craig.

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@Stacy Re: Surely that should be...

Sure, you can gauge how good any particular actor's Bond is/was by trying to discern which one gave gave the closest representation of Fleming's character, but that's like trying to decide what type of cheese to eat by asking which is closest in character to a house brick.

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Most impossible Bond gadget. Number one contender must surely be the invisible Aston Martin. Another good (i.e. bad) effort was the magnetic watch which can attract a metal boat from 10 metres. Underwater and flying cars not in the mix as they actually built them for real :)

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Well the invisible car is in existence - sort of... an LCD cloth panel if I remember, using cameras to capture the image behind it - Mercedes used it the other week on one of their electric or hybrid things at some vauge motor show I skimmed over....

Id say the most impossible gadget would be the whole of moonraker, although Musk is doing a pretty good job of playing Drax at the moment... if only he'd bought a volcano instead of Texas!

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I couldn't agree more. Cloaking I can get onboard with, especially if it isn't 100% perfect like that of a Predator, but completely invisible is just taking the piss and is unforgiveable in my book.

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Exactly.

Cloaking such that it vaguely camoflagues the car, LEDs on the bodywork can show the light obtained from the other side of the car, fine and doable with technology.

But invisible as in the invisible man, such that transparent windows are not visible, car tyres and inside wheelarches / grilles are not visible, the snow on the car is not visible, the whole fully transparent thing ruined Die Another Day.

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If you were Musk could you resist hiring Richard Keil (?) to accompany you to some event ?

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Agree with the invisible car (and John Cleese as Q). The elecromagnet watch and the wrist dart gun were the two small gadgets I liked the best as a kid (and would skill like as an adult)

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The grappling hook in the watch or belt. Totally impossible unless the cable is created on the fly like a spider's webbing.

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The invisible Aston Martin has to be top place, no question. I'm glad they stopped for a while after that, because they'd totally jumped the shark there.

But I'd say second place would be the magic pen that let Roger Moore breathe underwater. Sure it's possible to engineer artificial gills to pull dissolved air out of seawater, but it'd be the size of a house.

You could make a strong case for the laser rifles in Moonraker though, I guess, but that's pretty much narrative imperative when the film went all space opera.

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Larry Ellison got the island.

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Of course my favourite one has to be the 1967 version of Casino Royale

you cannot make movies like this one any more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSEmKXzpQMQ

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Re: Of course my favourite one has to be the 1967 version of Casino Royale

You wouldn't want to:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7gGiSDrrBg

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Re: Of course my favourite one has to be the 1967 version of Casino Royale

'Who is this "le Chiffre"?'

'Nobody knows, not even "le Chiffre"!!'

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Re: Of course my favourite one has to be the 1967 version of Casino Royale

"My doctor says I can't have bullets enter my body at any time"

"Hello Sailor!"

"Don't worry about that chair with a hole in the middle. It's merely waiting to be reupholstered."

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But what about the books?

I think there should be at least a nod to the books on which the films were based. (Only the Ian Fleming ones, though - all the others - at least the two or three that I've read - are pale imitations of the real thing).

This is how Bond orders a martini in the first book, Casino Royale:-

“A dry martini," he said. "One. In a deep champagne goblet." ...

"Just a moment. Three measures of Gordon's, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until it's ice-cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon-peel. Got it?”

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See this is why you should read the books as well as watch the film :) (OK - why I should) I never realised his martinis in the film were based on gin!

Hangs head in shame...

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Re: But what about the books?

This is how Bond orders a martini in the first book, Casino Royale:-

“A dry martini," he said. "One. In a deep champagne goblet." ...

"Just a moment. Three measures of Gordon's, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until it's ice-cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon-peel. Got it?”

And you should hear it read by Toby Stephens.

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That's an amazing Martini, and it is still served in the very bar where Fleming invented it - the cocktail bar at Dukes Hotel in St James. It's called the Vesper (after the character) and I would urge anyone who enjoys a real Martini to make a pilgrimage there to try for themselves. It is without question the finest, most delicious cocktail I have ever drank, and is made with loving care at your table by the expert staff. If you ask they will explain to you why they use specific ingredients and why Fleming designed it, an interesting story all in itself.

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Re: But what about the books?

That's how Daniel Craig orders it in the new Casino Royale movie too :)

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Re: But what about the books?

Really? OK, I'll take your word for it.

My only memory of a martini order in the new film was something like this:-

"Dry martini, please"

"Shaken or stirred?"

"Do I look as if I give a damn?"

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Re: But what about the books?

Yeah, that got a laugh in the cinema.

He orders the drink as described above near the start of the card game.

There's a moment of quiet reflection, then most of the rest of the players order one too. Le Chiffre is a little wound up by this.

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Dwarf?

OK, she's no six foot, but she's taller than Tom Cruise:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi4gVq7zsTU

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You must mean Physics of Heineken advertising?

There, fixed that one for you.

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Re: You must mean Physics of Heineken advertising?

Physics of bmw/ford group/sony/walther/omega advertising?

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Re: You must mean Physics of Heineken advertising?

According to last night's Standard, the latest film includes a scene where Bond is drinking Heineken, from the bottle, in bed.

Short of having him watching daytime TV in his pants while eating cold takeaway from the carton, I can't think of anything less cool.

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Re: You must mean Physics of Heineken advertising?

How did you forget Aston Martin?

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Re: You must mean Physics of Heineken advertising?

Once upon a time, Aston Martin was more or less part of the narrative. An uncredited cast member.

When the Brosnan era came to start in the 90s, bmw paid for product placement with an Aston DB5 more or less having a cameo role.

Towards the end of the 90s, they were part of Ford group, so in the likes of Die Another Day everyone had a Range Rover / Jag / Ford (Halle Berrys Thunderbird!)

Craig was even spotted in a Mondeo and Fiesta.

Quantum of Solace, the Aston was more or less cameo again as he took on baddies in surprisingly good looking Alfa Romeos.

They're owned by Tata now, who may or may not be able to pay for full product placement.

The thing is, Aston is like Vodka Martini. It is Bond (yes yes, he had a Bentley in the books, but they were rehased Rolls Royces and now expensive Phaetons and soon a blinged up vw Toerag). It is not obvious product placement, whereas the bmws and fords were/are.

Driving around in a Ford, tapping at a Sony Vaiaaiaoaiaoaio, drinking Heineken in his boxers.

He might as well be some junior clerk.

Aston, Martini, Monaco. The Bond trilogy.

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Great

An article whose entire content boils down to 'we are going to write some articles'

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So, we meet again

Mr Advertorial.

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james.bond@internationalexport.com

Connery, obviously

Moore and Brosnan bubbling under.

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Correction

james.bond@universalexport.com

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From Dr No to Austin Powers ..

> It’s 1962 and John F Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev are facing off over nuclear missiles in Cuba while Telstar bounces the first satellite transmission through space.

At the time there was a real British film industry, with such films as `The Spy Who Came in from the Cold' which depicted the spy world as it really was. With the Bond franchise what they did was feed a totally bogus fantasy to the American market. See also U-571 where Harvey Keitel captures an Enigma machine from a nazi submarine. And The Bridge on the River Kwai where William Holden helps Colonel Nicholson to blow up the bridge ...

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Churchill: The Hollywood years sends up this sensationalist revisionist filmmaking in a slightly silly but watchable with a beer format.

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bond bike

Ok, so it's not james, but mario,

but it's a nice piece of cinematic, and everyone who wants to make a bike commercial should watch this.

It's got bond, babes, a villain with an accent to match the french taunter, product placement galore, millionaires, gadgets and a bike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lKRxk7uq8U

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