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Motorola Mobility has introduced its first Intel-based smartphone: the Razr i. In addition to the 2GHz Intel Atom Z2460 - based on the chip giant's single-core Medfield design; 2GHz is a peak, if-the-phone's-cold-enough burst speed - the i has a 4.3in (almost) edge-to-edge OLED display frame in aluminium and a Kevlar casing all …

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Why oh why

are news Android phones still being released on ICS? Give em JB.

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ICS?

Agreed. Google releases a JB Tablet and then releases an ICS phone. What the fuck is with that? LOL

That's not a Dave Cameron 'LOL', by the way.

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Re: ICS?

Yay for fragmentation

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Re: Why oh why

Oh the irony of all the fandroids who claim that it's the phone manufacturers and network operators that hold back updates to Android causing it to be so fragmented then they go and announce a new smartphone made by a company they own that's already a version behind. You couldn't make it up

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Re: Why oh why

Why oh why can't motorola hire a proper industrial designer for their phones?

This might be a great phone, but it looks like a dog's breakfast!

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You had me at...

... aluminium frame and Kevlar casing!

This could be the replacement for my HTC HD2 (with custom Nandroid ROM) I've been looking for. Still, with that Intel CPU lurking in there I think I'll wait for the real world tests/benchmarks.

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Re: You had me at...

Get a Razr Maxx instead which has a Kevlar case, an ARM processor and a 3000mAh battery.

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Re: You had me at...

Support Intel if you must, but ARM has been very good for the UK.

Intel are pricing these chips low to get into the market, once they've kicked ARM out of the way then normal pricing will resume.

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Do apps need to be recompiled?

I haven't been keeping up on this, does it have an ARM instruction set emulator or do all app's need a recomplie? If so, who's going to take a punt on this device if virtually nothing will run on it?

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Re: Do apps need to be recompiled?

Oh hang on a minute, most Android apps aren't native are they - Java based? Probably answers my own question.

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Re: Do apps need to be recompiled?

Only apps that run native code (using the NDK), most normal apps are in java so should run on everything.

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Re: Do apps need to be recompiled?

Maybe for some apps, but most games/multimedia apps usually use the NDK. We already had the ARM6 vs ARM7 incompatibilities. Intel makes those a bit worse.

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Compatability ..?

Didn't I read something about compatability issues with the Intel silicon? Like they only run apps that are tweaked for 'em?

Otherwise, it looks really cool.

Agree about JB, though: I mean, this is Google, FFS! They have absolutely no excuse for punting something with 1 year old version of the O/S.

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FAIL

Nice case, but why on earth are they building it around an Intel Atom? It runs way too hot and draws too much power compared to an ARM unit.

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Cos

Because Intel bunged em loads of cash to get one of their processors in a phone on the market?

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You say that but the previous Intel Atom android phone did well on power and battery life, and if those reviewers weren't lying....

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No microSD-card slot?

It has no micrpSD card slot?

Bye!

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Re: No microSD-card slot?

Damn they'll rue that 1 lost sale

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Re: No microSD-card slot?

Engadget seems to claim it does have a microSD card slot inside.

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Re: No microSD-card slot?

It'll be under the flap on the top left, next to the micro sim slot (Original Droid Razr has a similar arrangement on the bottom left)

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Why oh why

Must Intel stamp their mark on the back of this.

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Re: Why oh why

The world must know that it contains an Intel processor, even if they don't give a toss.

It's all part of their plan to dominate mobile as well as everything else.

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what no JB!

wait ... isn't Motorola now part of Google?! Google must be totally out of it! I don't know of that many JB devices around, what is going on that even what is essentially heir own products are not using their latest software!

Google and Motorola get a FAIL for this one...

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Re: what no JB!

Reverse psychology?

"Look competitors using our OS - we said we'd not give Moto special treatment, and this proves it".

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Joke

Atom?

Hmmm, where's my BSD installer?

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That is...

...a very good point actually. Once having gotten past the locked bootloader - Motorola do love a locked bootloader - I'm sure it won't be long before the clever folk over at XDA Developers get Ubuntu, or even XP, running on this.

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Dealbreaker

For me the only deal breaker is the Intel chip. And single core? Why?

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suspicious

I really wouldn't want to touch one of these, given how many things are actually dependent on the underlying CPU, Dalvik or no. Lots of stuff hits the NDK, and even some browsers require specific CPUs in order to be supported. There has been a lot of doom mongering about fragmentation on Android in the past, but this might be the prime candidate for a more real world example.

(Unless I am missing something bloody obvious, which is possible, I am a bit short on sleep today)

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20h

"20 hours runtime", I hope that's talktime, not standby. But I wouldn't be surprised with a hungry-hungry CISC chip.

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Hmmmm

As much as I detest the hype and price of the iphone this is hardly competition?

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Rectangular, with rounded corners

Must be an iPhone(y)

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LTE ?

Does this have LTE like the recently released (and US only at the moment) Razr M?

If not then big fail...my money will be going back in the wallet...

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