100m is a massive number even if it's only 10-20% of what FB has. Can they really have that many active users? What does active mean though... been to the site? Posted something? Simply used a Google service while logged in?
Google has claimed that it now has 100 million active monthly users of its social networking site that it continues to insist isn't actually a social network. Google+ has had 400 million signups since it launched in 2011, but only a quarter of that figure are apparently engaged regularly with it. Sadly, the company didn't …
It sure is.
I don't know why its so fashionable to knock these figures. No one mentions Microsofts numbers in social - if they actually do anything in that area, that is.
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Could it be no one mentions Microsoft's social network figures because they don't issue press releases going on about them?
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Microsoft have http://so.cl
I went along for the beta, and was totally baffled by it. They're trying some weird search engine/social network hybrid. Just bizarre.
Judging by the article it looks like an active user is someone who's using gmail and didn't delete their google+ account...
@sabroni collect your "I hate Google" medal on the way out, but next time try to get the numbers even remotely correct. Google claims only 100million active G+ users but many more GMail users.
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@sabroni I'm reminded of what Russell Brand said when he was caught making obscene phone calls with Jonathan Ross: "All I ever wanted to do was make people laugh.". The best reply, actually from the letters page in Viz: "Well Russell, start when you're ready".
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"No one mentions Microsofts numbers in social"
Microsoft owns a big chunk of Facebook
From the article: At the start of 2012, Google quietly began opting every new user signing up to Gmail directly into Google+
I guess that would explain the numbers.
@sabroni they don't count all GMail users as active G+ users. That's the only way to explain the numbers, there's no need to guess.
Re: @sabroni they don't count all GMail users as active G+ users
Jesus, are you just being deliberately obtuse? The quote says "from the start of 2012". GMail had plenty of users before the start of 2012, only the new ones are silently co-opted into Google+. The article never stated "all gmail users", I made it perfectly clear I wasn't talking about "all gmail users". In the words of the T-shirt "I can explain it to you, I can't understand it for you"...
Snapseed *is not* anything remotely like instagram
Instagram: Social network for sharing photos
Snapseed: Photo editing software with no social network
Google buying nik software is going do a grand total of bugger all for their social network. It might enhance the android photo editing features a whole lot, and it might enhance say picassa, but with zero people on the nik software social network it's not going to enhance google+ any.
Fail is for basically every news site who're reporting this as somehow equivalent to instagram or calling snapseed an instagram rival :)
"the company didn't provide any meaty breakdowns of those metrics"
ok, here goes:
I have an account on google+ but I can't be arsed to use it
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I've actually forgotten my password and cannot be arsed to reset it as I'd have to fiddle with my Android phone login as well. So I'm IN the 400,000,000 but most assuredly NOT an active participant.
an article written by someone that doesn't understand Google+ They sit there waiting for someone to add them to their circles... it's not going to happen. It's the equivalent of sitting in the corner of the schoolyard hoping someone wants to play with the boring kid...
You have to engage, join some circles.
Have it and use it...
About once a week whilst sat on the lav and want to look through something other than facebook, my kindle book, twitter etc I dont have any/many personal contacts on there so the stuff i do see is more fulfilling than facebook....
Using it more and more...
...mainly because its the only social network not blocked at work (I suspect because otherwise the whole google.com domain would have to be blocked), but it's also home to a lot of techies, scientists and Linux distro maintainers, so the average IQ and S/N ratio is somewhat higher than FB and the like.
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> but it's also home to a lot ... Linux distro maintainers
Wow, I just have to join now. How exciting!
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Google+ - The new cure for insomnia!
Also, although I would like to say it’s surprising that there was no mention of Nik Software’s other products, it’s sadly predictable that there wasn’t. I know the story was leading with something else but I think it might be of interest.
Nik has firmly placed itself in providing photo-editing plug-ins for Photoshop, Aperture and Lightroom for higher-end users – so what’s going to happen to those? It doesn’t sound like the kind of area that Google is interested in.
There have been just over 130 comments for users on Nik’s site (http://education.niksoftware.com/2012/09/17/google-acquires-nik-software/) about this news and it’s almost universally been criticised. Punters see this as heralding the end for products that they’ve spent time and money (I consider them excellent value, but they’re not on the budget end of things) into their workflows.
Personally, I suspect that as well as Google leaving a truck full of cash outside Nik’s HQ, a major factor in Nik’s decision was that the market for the plug-ins becoming increasingly niche.
the thing about G+
Which I don't find on other social networks is that I meet people. FB is people I know already, and that's great, it's nice to keep in touch with them. Twitter seems to mostly be people I know retweeting stuff by people I don't (and don't want to).
G+ does really well at helping me to meet new people who share my interests - and lets me filter them on that interest - eg: I know a lot of cooking people on G+, but I only see their posts when I want to browse my 'foodies' circle. Same same for photography and the rest. Sometimes people start in a specialist circle and move into my general friends circles, sometimes not. Either way I've made more new friends on G+ in the last year than I ever have on FB/Twitter. Obviously other people's milage will vary.
Do I need to state the bleedin' obvious?
Maybe they don't tell you how to keep your porn habits private because it's very very very easy not to make them public. For example, if you make a public post about your porn habits then they will be public, but if you DON'T make a public post about your porn habits then they will not be public. So, in case you're not clear on this, DON'T post on Google+ if you don't want to take part. It really is that simple.
El Reg's "mission creep" into tech journalism is invasive, unwanted and a failure. If you think that G+ integration with GMail is "mission creep" then you don't understand what G+ is about. That would be why you keep reporting it's a social network, I suppose.
Once a day but up to 5 times on the weekends. Uniforms are a favourite. D'oh!
Yeah, great. You don't understand it. Cool.
Can we get a G+ button to share El Reg stories now, given the huge, engaged tech-savvy audience there?
I don't get how the number of people signed up for G+ and gmail can be so similar. Are people "upgrading" to G+ with all their gmail accounts? I found that one is more than enough but then perhaps the whole smarter usenet/google groups cum blog/chat concept seems to have passed me by.
Not for me
i got Gmail because it is a easy way to sync contacts on my mobile phone, that is the only reason I got a Gmail account, i signed up before google started pushing people into having a google+ account.
I got a facebook account and that does me, never seen the need for a Google+ account.
Google claims HOW many active users? They hired Romney?
I find that numeric claim rather hard to believe. I think that is in the same league with Romney's claim that 47% of the American voters are irredeemable victim-minded government-leeching supporters of President Obama.
Can't disprove the number, but I can address the topic of why I barely use Google+ and have no plans to do more with it. I'm pretty sure my use is sufficient for the google to claim that I'm an active user, but I have NOT communicated with anyone via Google+ in some months, and only about three times EVER. My current "activity" is to allow Google+ to upload pictures from my smartphone--and I increasingly regret my choice of Android. I'm still with Android basically because Apple and Microsoft are too evil for my tastes, and at least the increasingly evil Google doesn't control the Android infrastructure to the same degree.
For whatever it's worth, I didn't blame the google for going EVIL--until I found out that they have become leading lobbyist among high-tech companies. It's one thing to become evil because the rules of the game require large American companies to become more evil over time just to survive, but the lobbyists are the creators of those evil rules (of course mediated through the politicians who can be purchased most cheaply).
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>My current "activity" is to allow Google+ to upload pictures from my smartphone--and I increasingly regret my choice of Android.
Then why do you have this functionality turned on? I remember installing the G+ app on my phone and it specifically asked me if I wanted auto upload turned on, seems a bit silly and a waste of data allowance if you have no plans of using it!
a bit boring
its getting alittle boring now, when ever there is a g+ story the reg bashes it.
i use FB and G+ but G+ has become my destination site. its where all the conversation i am interested is taking place. FB is where people tell you what they had for breakfast.
G+ excellent social network
I prefer G+ to facebook and twitter. Many reasons but I would agree with somebody above that said it's a great place for meeting new people. And I love the way it integrates with other google products.
"...over 400,000,000 people have upgraded to Google+. It was only a year ago that we opened public sign-up, and we couldn’t have imagined that so many people would join in just 12 months..."
Google have moved on from press-ganging people into joining G+ via their Gmail accounts. For the past couple of months, I have been receiving emails to my Gmail email adresses, telling me what fun and larks I could be having, if only I signed up to Google+.
When I click on the "unsubscribe" link [dontcha just love having to "unsubscribe" from shite you never subscribed to in the first place!], I am taken to the G+ login/create profile page. So, in other words, the only way I can stop Google bombarding me with emails, telling me how great Google+ is, is to sign up for Google+.
The number 22 and the word "catch" spring to mind!