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Millions of fanboys have asked Apple to send them an iPhone 5, two million of them within 24 hours of orders first being taken for the new handset. That, claimed Apple today, is "more than double the previous record of one million held by iPhone 4S". The iPhone 4S was announced just under a year ago, on 4 October 2011. Apple …

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El Reg

..in the throes of cognitive dissonance once again.

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NEWS FLASH

It was announced today that ALL pre ordered iPhone 5's will arrive with a plug adapter for the old chargers as a big thank you to all loyal customers who got in with their order first!

Now where have I put my pet leprechaun , Shane, Shane where are you?

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Anonymous Coward

"..in the throes of cognitive dissonance once again."

I think you mean "in the throes of cognitive incontinence once again." as they piss themselves in anticipation.

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Profiteering

My friends & I pre-ordered some for fleabay. I know someone put in 8 pre-ordered using family members.

CEX is already willing to take them off your hand for a little over the retail price.

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Re: Profiteering

So - they are still 'sales' whether you are the ultimate user or not.

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Re: Profiteering

Errrr...are you saying they should they not count as sales if you buy them to resell? That's a strange definition of sales you have there!

Apple makes money off the sale no matter what the end user decides to do with it. Even if it is to make a "will it blend" video.

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iPhone touts.

As clearly only a would actually pre-order a phone that's 10months behind the GalaxyS3/Xperia S/HTC One X in terms of specs and performance, and 30% more expensive.

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Re: iPhone touts.

And even further behind the Nokia Luma 920....

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.... and this is why Apple don't need to be patent trolling with dodgy utility patents like double tap to zoom and hyperlinked phone numbers.

I should make it clear, I don't care if people want to buy iPhones, it is actually a good phone, I just want them to leave me my choice to buy something else if I want to, without forcing it out of the market over greed/some disillusion that Android stole any more from Apple then they have stolen from other systems, including Android.

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Anonymous Coward

I don't care if people want to buy Android phones, some are actually good phones, I just want them to stop ripping off Apple's tech and design and try innovating.

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Isn't copying the new innovation? Until you get caught - busted Samsung.

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I don't care if people want to buy Android phones, some are actually good phones, I just want them to stop ripping off Apple's tech and design and try innovating.

Unless you hold a lot of Apple stock and are of an unusually panicky nature, why would you want that?

If people are ripping off Apple and Apple are still making big profits then we all gain - Apple innovate to the same extent they ever did and those innovations are widely available.

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Yea man

"I don't care if people want to buy Android phones, some are actually good phones, I just want them to stop ripping off Apple's tech and design and try innovating."

Cos 4 inch screens and 8mp camera's were first seen on an Apple device

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Anonymous Coward

"I don't care if people want to buy Android phones, some are actually good phones, I just want them to stop ripping off Apple's tech and design and try innovating."

Along time ago Microsoft introduced their new "innovative" Windows with its mouse and pointers. Apple cried foul - "we invented that, look at our Macs." A big strummash ensued, until Xerox came along and said "shut up, we invented it, and here's the evidence"

There is very little INNOVATION from Apple, Android, Microsoft or several other mainstream techs. Most of it has all been invented elsewhere and they are simply making it mainstream.

It's MAD - mutually assured destruction - that's all that will be achieved if the players don't start playing better together. Then when one of them really does make a genuine invention can they been seen to innovate.

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No, they didn't

Microsoft Window V1 was fine by Apple. Where they got upset was Windows 2 nicking ideas from MacOS that weren't in Xerox's STAR system. Repainting uncovered windows for example. That was something that Apple had worked out for themselves (and no, it's not trivial to do).

You're also confusing Innovation with Invention. Invention is creating new stuff that no one has thought of. Innovation is putting existing things together in new ways. If you insist in classifying only hardware as innovation then you're not going to see much of that (but it does look like Apple has designed their own ARM compatible CPU which is pretty innovative, if not too obvious).

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Anonymous Coward

Is that all - I was actually expecting it to be higher.

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Anonymous Coward

A fool and his money...

A lot are probably the same kind of person who bought this:

http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/article/TMG9509261/The-Jil-Sander-paper-bag-that-will-cost-you-185.html

image is eeeverything daaaaahling

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Devil

Re: A fool and his money...

There's one born every 2.6 seconds...

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Anonymous Coward

If you want a paper lunch bag try this one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006UH4D9G

Saved you nearly £180.

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Jobsian Cult

I have a book on my desktop called "Lean Software Development", basically it tells you to find a pattern that works and stick with it for the win. Its a concept that has been taken from the manufacturing industry.

Looks like Apple has also consumed this for the Jesus Phone. You dont have to the a most cynical opponent of the Jesus Phone to start noticing that there is very little of the famed "innovation" commonly associated with this Holiest of Relics anymore. So much so that Apple is now resorting to getting other companies into court to battle over whether or not their device looks a little bit like the Jesus Phone.

Now, I am pretty much guaranteed a protest by mentioning that Android is more like the "Muhammad Phone", and I am pretty sure that any Reg hacks who use that term would be stoned within hours.

To end on a lighter note, I think it would be fair to brand Windows 8 Mobile as the "Scientology Phone".

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Re: Jobsian Cult

All the currently low-hanging-fruit has been taken already. Modern smartphones are only possible due to the battery, CPU and screen technologies of the last few years, with the communication infrastructure to support them. So, for the first few years after people first glued them together with software there were many innovative (and many obvious) ideas ripe for picking. What the next disruptive technology is, I don't know. Those who are better informed than I are likely not to say. Possibly a flexible screen that can be rolled up like a scroll.

About 16 years ago I was shown a video in school in which some Californian bloke reckoned the ultimate computer would look like a blanket (or a towel, for you Hitch-hikers out there). It could assume the shape of a keyboard and monitor, or you could just place it over your head for an immersive VR-style experience. When finished, you would just scrunch it back into your pocket or handbag.

>You dont have to the a most cynical opponent of the Jesus Phone to start noticing that there is very little of the famed "innovation" commonly associated with this Holiest of Relics anymore.

You only have to look at their new earbuds to think that Sir Jony is getting bored.

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Re: Jobsian Cult

I somewhat disagree with the idea that all the easy pickings are gone.

Apple probably wont be able to compete against the like of Sony, LG and Samsung in the future when it comes to adding devices to a home network that contains a telly and other proprietary devices. Sony in particular will be very keen to lock people into a specific ecosystem where customers mobiles, games consoles and TV operate as part of a personal media network.

The Jobsian Cult doesnt have a successful video games console or a booming display presence - it needs to get them from people like Samsung. All the Cultists have at the end of the day is iTunes and a communications device.

The Church of Google doesnt really care how you get Android, as long as you can get it, a bit like an STD

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Re: Jobsian Cult

"Now, I am pretty much guaranteed a protest by mentioning that Android is more like the "Muhammad Phone", and I am pretty sure that any Reg hacks who use that term would be stoned within hours".

Considering some of the garbage stories that have been on here, I think some of the hacks are already stoned.

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Re: Jobsian Cult

"Apple probably wont be able to compete against the like of Sony, LG and Samsung in the future when it comes to adding devices to a home network that contains a telly and other proprietary devices."

I hate to point this out, but Apple are already beating the pants off of the competition when it comes to this. AirPlay is becoming a de facto standard for audio and video steaming (DNLA never matched up to its promises of compatibility and ease of use), TVs come with apps to let you control them from your iPhone etc.

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Re: Jobsian Cult

That's hardly the defacto standard. It's a standard de jour. Apple will not be able to compete in the consumer electronics market when faced with the likes of LG, Sony and Samsung...

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Re: Jobsian Cult

They have been competing against Sony, LG et al ever since they introduced the original iPod. Sony used to be the absolute king of personal audio. Apple now own 70+% of the MP3 player market and Sony are an also-ran.

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Re: Jobsian Cult

this is probably one of the silliest things I have ever heard a Cultist come out with.

Do you really believe that Apple commands 70% of the MP3 player market? Everything plays MP3's these days - its nothing special. My bloody TV plays MP3's from a UPNP server, memory card etc.

I am surprised that Samsung haven't hit Apple with a lawsuit, as if I recall correctly, wasnt it Samsung that was first to market with a mobile phone that could play MP3's way back in the 90's?

Sounds like prior art to me...

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Re: Jobsian Cult

Talk to the market analysts. They are the ones that are saying that Apple have that market share of MP3 players. In case you hadn't noticed they've diversified into mobile phones and tablet PC's, also consumer electronic devices, and have quite large market shares there also.

Now enough of this hater nonsense, I'm sick of shooting down your pet fallacies at every turn.

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Re: Jobsian Cult

You should have read Wikipedia a little more closely, the mystical 70% figure probably only applies to the US - hang, I bet you are an American as well, aren't you?

This further compounds the status of your comments to "utterly ridiculous".

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Anonymous Coward

5 million?

The Galaxy S3 sold 9 million as preorders

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Re: 5 million?

You can't compare the statistics directly in this instance. You'd need to wait until the iDiot phone was released before you can make the comparison, the iDiot phone would need pre-orders of 9m+ to break the record owned by the S3 (Virge DX.... why is no one suing Samsung?!).

Although, in fairness, the iPhone 5S will be exactly the same as the iPhone 5 only with the bits that should have been in the iPhone 5 but were removed to give people a reason to buy the iPhone 5S, still, there are how many million born every minute?

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So, 9 million pieces of crap are somehow better than 5 million iPhones? Hmmm.

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Re: 5 million?

and how long was the pre-order window for the S3? and does that include the blue on that didn't come out until weeks after the white one was released?

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Meh

Same old, same old...

"Commodor 64 rules!" "No - Spectrum is best!"

"Ha ha! Call the Amiga a computer? Get an Atari ST!"

"SNES forever!" "No way - Master System and Sonic!"

etc etc

Playstation/Dreamcast, PS2/Xbox, Ps3/Xbox 360

All arguments heard in the playground, made by pre-pubescent boys. I doubt that iOS/Android arguments are made by anyone different.

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Re: Same old, same old...

Ah yes, I remember the Pascal / Fortran battles of my youth...

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Re: Same old, same old...

Those choices were basically dictated by what software you used. A musician would have taken the Atari ST over the Amiga (the MIDI ports were built in), a CGI artist of the time probably vice versa. If I were a musician I would now use a Mac, but since I am a CAD user I use a Windows PC. As such, I don't even consider myself to have a choice in platform.

Anyone excited by the possibility of using their shiny touchscreen for controlling realtime events (such as electronic musicians) will get a iDevice, since the latency is low enough to make it workable - only with Jelly Bean has this this been addressed enough for developers to even start considering Android (that, and having only a limited range of devices to support helped, too). People who enjoy tinkering will take the Android device and root it... and thank Jeebus there is more one kind of person in this world.

I was once what is now called a 'fanboi'- I had a Gravis Ultrasound, and my use of it was related to how many other people might buy it- since this would cause more software to support it. As it happened, enough good software did (Syndicate, Doom) and emulation took care of the rest before DirectSound rendered ones choice of hardware irrelevant.

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Re: Same old, same old...

For the record: The C64 WAS better than the Specturd* and the Amiga knocked the spots of the Atari STD*. Fact.

*Childish names substituted in an attempt to appear intelectual and growed-up.

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Re: Same old, same old...

But do you remember RatFor?

An amazing creation... 'rational fortran' - preprocessed into fortran for compilation...

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Re: Same old, same old...

Yes! A good step on the way to C...

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Re: Same old, same old...

Fortran IV using punched cards was the first language I studied when I entered university. Calculators were still a luxury then and we used slide rules. Darn, that ages me quite a bit.

I ordered an iPod Touch 5G to replace my 2 year old 4G. My 4S, on the other hand, doesn't need an upgrade... the 5 is a tad disappointing.

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Re: Same old, same old...

No Spectrum IS the best.

Sinclair for President!

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Re: Same old, same old...

Nope, The Acorn Archimedes was BETTER then the Atari ST, CBM Amiga and Apple Mac combined!

Sophie for President!

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Re: Same old, same old...

... but the Sinclair was more innovative ;-)

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Yep

there's going to be a glut of low cost second hand 4's and 4S's .... hey was it all that time ago when the 4S was released, it only seems like weeks ..............

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Re: Yep

When I was shopping around for a smartphone two years ago, I was torn between a Samsung Galaxy S (the first one) and an iPhone 4. I very nearly bought the SGS, although it felt a bit like rubber boots compared to leather shoes handcrafted in Italy. Then I read about the GPS problems with the SGS and got the iPhone. Which had a GPS system that worked reliably within seconds.

I still use the iPhone 4 and I'm quite happy with it. I just totally can't imagine still being happy with the SGS with the SGS2 and SGS3 around now. To add insult to injury the original SGS is nearly worthless on ebay now compared to the iPhone 4.

In short: There will more "cheap" iPhone 4's and 4S's around very soon, but "cheap" won't mean what you think it means. Time ate much more from the value of the SGS than it was cheaper in the first place. Getting a fresh iPhone every two years or so is quite cheap actually if you figure this in.

I would buy a decent Android phone in a heartbeat now if there were one. Give me a Lumia 920 running Jelly Bean!

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Anonymous Coward

In unrelated news, Tescos has reported an upsurge in demand for mint sauce.

Baaaaaaaaaa!

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Anonymous Coward

Just Ordered Mine Today !

Great price from Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003VOCPHI/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001T2RGGO&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0HEJ0VF4NQV7S7Z86Y39

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Big Brother

as we watch enslavement coming into view

Let's try not to let the sun set on Utopia.

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Not surprised.

The difference between the 4 and the 4s is very small, almost to the point of irrelevance, the 5 is measurably different, much faster, bigger screen, being skinnier is neither here or there, it's a nice update of the 4s, but what isn't really being considered is what happens to the lineup, the 5 is the flagship, 4s midrange and crucially the 4 is now the entry level model (with the 3s being dropped), you'll be able to get the 4 far cheaper than ever before (possibly even less than 3s prices).

We can argue which is superior the 5 or the Galaxy sIII, but this is possibly a distraction, think about an entry level iPhone 4 compared to other entry level phones - I suspect that this is Apples new battleground, not market leadership but market coverage, after all they have dabled in "coverage" before with CDMA (simless) iPhone 4 budget phones (with different internals), Apple are not adverse to trying new markets.

So, I suspect Apple are saying "look over here" when they're really targetting "over there".

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