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Blighty's playboy Prince Harry isn't the only royal hitting tabloid headlines for inappropriate snaps: Norway's monarchy has defended one of its own blue-blooded teens after his web photo uploading spree supposedly sparked a security scare. Marius Borg Høiby, 15, took photographs while on holiday and published them using a …

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If it's too much for them...

"Norway's police intelligence unit, the Politiets sikkerhetstjeneste (PST), is under fire for failing to inform the royal family about the potential drawbacks of sharing too much info on social networks."

If the royal family can't figure it out for themselves, then Norway might want to considering advertising for a new royal family, maybe just a bit higher up the evolutionary tree...

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Is there such a thing? Thought all royal families shared the same inbreeding....

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Re:"If the royal family can't figure it out for themselves........"

The Norwegian royal family are, as far as their tech is concerned, ordinary punters like millions of other ordinary punters with regard to their knowledge/understanding of the tech. They are none of them techies, professional or amateur. In common with the rest of the aforementioned millions of ordinary punters they know fuck all about that side of their shinies. That does not make them anything other than average punters with an average punter*s understanding of their smartphones. Norwegian security however are most definitely supposed to know about such things.

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... .............. ...... . .. ....................... 15 years old....... Enough said.

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Re: If it's too much for them...

Fair dos. The Norwegian royalty's less inbred than most - Mette-Marit was a commoner before she married the Crown Prince, Marius' dad was involved in drugs, and her step-brother was one of Breivik's victims.

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Anders Breivik

Life in a Norwegian prison doesn't seem to look like punishment to me! :(

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Man, I wish I'd gone to prison instead of uni. Free accomodation and by the look of it much higher quality / more room than halls of residence.

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I severely doubt he will be in a prison like that. Whilst I'm not sure of it that looks like a minimum security prison or, at least, it's not as severe looking as the ones I've seen in Oslo, which from the outside at least look the same as the ones we have in the UK.

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The justice system in Norway is generally aimed more at rehabilitation than punishment for punishment's sake, as I understand it. Interestingly enough, the reoffending rate in Norway is around 20%, compared to around 50% in the UK or around 60% in the USA. Now I'm not suggesting that there is a direct correlation between having nice prisons and not reoffending - there are many other factors involved - but still, makes you think.

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Well he has been found sane - how someone that kills 77 can ever be found sane well..

Anyway, now he has been found sane, my personal opinion is that I hope someone tortures the fucker, for a long time. Take him to the brink of death, bring him back - rinse and repeat.

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I know exactly where you're coming from but 'sane' in this context doesn't mean the same as it does in regular conversation. If he were not sane in the legal sense, he couldn't be held fully responsible for his actions. Fortunately he is, and he is. Still a fucking nutter as far as any truly sane person is concerned.

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"Life in a Norwegian prison doesn't seem to look like punishment to me!"

Looks a damn sight more comfortable than an airbed in an Ecuarorian embassy.

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Fuck, I've somehow ended up in the daily mail comments pages.

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"doesn't seem to look like punishment to me!"

To be fair, the pictures don't adequately illustrate the violent sodomy endured by offenders.

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Good to remember, I am compiling a list of the best places to get locked up, it forms the basis of my pension plan... eat drink and make merry now, do a bank heist - then I have two options - one is it is successful and I am set up for life, second it fails and I get locked up in a decent room, warm, sheltered, and fed. There are potential drawbacks to the second - lack of local pub and totty but I am led to believe it is possible in some prisons to enjoy some visiting totty and they can always smuggle some beer in with them

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Breivik will be in solitary confinement so unlikely to suffer from fellow inmates anger, but these are images from the high security jail he will in - not quite as nice as the images linked to above:

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/22juli/Utilregnelig-Breivik-kan-bli-fire-ganger-sa-dyr-6971549.html

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@Dave15.

Have you been reading Raffles? He seemed to have the right idea.

On the debit side of his character he did leave his friend Bunny in the lurch for a few years. On the plus side, he did save aforesaid chum when the latter was shot by a Boer at the cost of his own life.

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Re: ... wish I'd gone to prison instead of uni

Guarantee you'd have a better education and the conversations would have been far more erudite.

See the comments below for an example.

Breivik ? Had a very good point, completely lost the plot.

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That room's bigger and has better furnishings than my room at uni did, and I PAID FOR THAT ROOM. On the other hand I did have a key to the door...

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The Baron, I suspect some of the reason for those numbers is that in Norway we put away more traffic offenders than the US (and possibly UK). Class A highways have a 100 kph speed limit and you do not have to go much above a more European speed limit before your ass ends up in jail.

As for the jail pictures in this thread, I do not think those are representative. http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10060268 shows somewhat similar, but more spartan facilities. The idea, as I understand it, is that he will share the computer room and exercise equipment with other inmates that will eventually land themselves in this high-security facility. As you can see, each room has a very solid lock, so I guess he will be on a timed schedule.

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Nordic prisons give you holidays for non dangerous inmates. Do a non violent heist and you'll be visiting pubs soon enough.

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"The justice system in Norway is generally aimed more at rehabilitation than punishment for punishment's sake, as I understand it. Interestingly enough, the reoffending rate in Norway is around 20%, compared to around 50% in the UK or around 60% in the USA. Now I'm not suggesting that there is a direct correlation between having nice prisons and not reoffending - there are many other factors involved - but still, makes you think."

He can be rehabilitated? The guy is a whackjob to the Nth degree. They should have sacked the police who arrested him for not accidently shooting him while trying to escape. He surrended just so he could stand up in front of the press and preach his message.

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No - I very much doubt that Breivik can, will, or should be rehabilitated. To be clear, I was responding to a post about why conditions are as they are in typical lower-security Norwegian prisons, not making a specific point about Breivik.

Sacking the police because they didn't break the law seems... well... I'm not sure you've necessarily thought through the consequences.

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Rune, thanks for this information - that could certainly be a factor. I understand that speeding in Norway can also carry a fine of up to 10% of your annual income...

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I do love the newspapers in the UK

"We have a right, nay, an obligation, under the freedom of the press to show everyone pictures of Prince Harry cupping his droit de seignuer. This is isn't seediness damn it, this is a MORAL IMPERATIVE for us!"

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Exactly...it's what Piers Morgan, Kelvin Mckenzie et al all started and which has eagerly been taken up by a new breed of editor, pandering to the LCD's of this society (Lowest Common Denominators). If I had the opportunity to get those two in a room, then the newspapers may actually have some reporting to do!

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Re: I do love the newspapers in the UK

Exactly. They aren't newspapers, they are trash mags. The fact that a 27 yr old prince decided to play strip billiards in a private hotel room is none of our business. Anybody who actually wants to see ginger nuts needs their head seeing to.

I can understand them complaining about being stopped from printing stories about dodgy expense claims, wikileaks cables and sexed up iraq wmd dossiers, wait, whats that you say? They WERE allowed to print all that? How come when they are so castrated by oversight?

Trashmags are in the business of selling whatever the biggest number of people will pay to read \ look at pictures. I guess the fault ultimately rests with the chumps who will pay for and therefore create the demand for, such ridiculous breaches of personal space. It gets even worse, when real celebs get better at keeping their lives private, media invents famous people whose only claim to fame is they are happy to have their private lives splashed over the 'news'. If your only claim to fame is a willingness to get completely pissed and have pictures of your madge pasted all over blogs and tabloids perhaps you need to reconsider what you are doing with your life, if you are interested in reading about it, you are to blame for just about everything.

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It has the advantage of keeping the stupid and ill educated (though highly qualified) masses entertained (probably with their hands on their naughty bits) while the politicians happily shaft us all over sucking vast amounts of money from the poor and quantitively easing it into the pockets of the already super rich :)

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"Anybody who actually wants to see ginger nuts needs their head seeing to."

And if you've missed the pictures here they are.

(Come on, you knew that was going to happen. Don't tell me you actually looked.)

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Outrage!

Human beings treated as, err, Human Beings!

My goodness, call the Daily Mail.

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Who gives a rat's scrotum..

... what testosterone-fueled junior members of any royal family (Brit, Scandinavian or ????) do?

If I wanted salacious gossip, I'd buy Hello or others of that scandal-sheet ilk. The fact that it was also plastered over FaceTwit is, at best, drawing a rather long IT bow even in the El Reg Odds&Sods section.

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I think the Norwegian case was about security implications of using newangled tech. Perhaps I just over analyzed and it really was just teen celeb gossip.

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"Potential drawbacks of sharing too much info on social networks"

"Potential" being the key word there.

The security services are by nature meant to be paranoid but it can become a contagious cancer where people continually live in fear of existential threat. Of course some people do make enemies and it's not paranoia if they are out to get you!

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"The US and British armed forces have imposed restrictions on the use of mobile phones in war zones because of the danger that geo-tags might easily give away the location of soldiers."

If you don't know how to disable said feature, maybe you should consider having a digital camera without the feature?

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There's more to it than geotagging

Background details will give approximate location, and foreground may give precise coordinates.

Plus, they are supposed to be working rather than taking photos anyway!

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Why do we get so hung-up about nudity in this country?

If Harry want's to get his kit off, so what? There's no need for the UK media to get into headless chicken mode about it. If he invites a few hot chicks up to his room for a romp he shouldn't be too surprised if one or two of them have smartphones with cameras.

PS do hotel rooms usually have billiard tables?

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Re: Why do we get so hung-up about nudity in this country?

Prince Harry's hotel rooms can have whatever he wants!

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Re: Why do we get so hung-up about nudity in this country?

I'd assumed that strip billiards was a euphemism.

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I'm just appalled that he was clearly so shit at it!

The idea is to get the OTHER person naked.

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Re: Why do we get so hung-up about nudity in this country?

I am pretty certain that if a royal was ever photographed in flagrante with an unwilling goat, middle England would rise up and condemn the press for its old fashioned and prudish attitudes to fucking farm animals. But they'd buy the paper anyway.

I wonder whether you'd be so charitable if an MP or minister got photographed acting like this on a tax-payer funded jolly?

We're often told that our minor royals are ambassadors for British industry. Well, having compared Britain's yawning trade deficit and moribund economy against Germany's booming industry and massive trade surpluses, I'd say perhaps its time for us to follow the German model and get an old bloke who nobody knows the name of as head of state. And then start making some decent cars.

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Re: Why do we get so hung-up about nudity in this country?

Actually no. If the royal was caught shagging a goat, that is newsworthy. If an mp was caught in a hotel room with nekkid ladies, thats still an invasion of privacy, assuming they were of age etc.

If it isn't illegal or contrary to their statements then it isn't newsworthy. As much as I think Prince Harry is a grade A tit, he deserves privacy just like you and I do.

The press bleating about censorship is bollocks of the highes order. It isn't news they are being stopped from printing, its shyte. They want to print as much sensationalist, made up, shyte as they can. They aren't interested in keeping the government, other governments or companies honest by uncovering actual scandals. They want to sell pictures of tits. The phone hacking scandal shows exactly how low they will stoop to invade peoples privacy. A large portion of the blame must fall on the morons who buy the tatrags in the first place.

As for your fix for the economy, sounds pretty much bang on. It would only work if our unions held down wages like the German unions did over the past 10 years though (not a bad thing, it worked very well for them).

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Teens are dumb shits ...

... they anonymously upload photos of their faceless body bits to flickr, and wikipedia, complete with GPS data which when fed into Google maps will put a little arrow over their bedroom.

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You forgot the "or so I hear" on the end there.

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Hes not even Royal ffs

Who cares what some ruby players son does in his spare time on our cash?

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*teen royal* in fresh photo uproar

"Høiby, the son of Crown Princess Mette-Marit from an earlier relationship prior to her marriage to Norwegian Crown Prince Haakon,"

Hence making him non-royal as can be seen from his Norwegian Royal Family web page where he is plain "Marius Borg Høiby" rather than the other princes and princesses listed.

Anyway, this has been a brief moment of sanity and I now return you to the pages of Majesty magazine ("the Quality Royal Magazine"), sorry, el Reg.

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@Mike Flex

Out of the two "princes" being talked about in the above comments, which one has some link to a well known rugby player? Both from past news and when he looks in the mirror?

Ill give you a clue. There is no ø in it

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I'm not at all a fan of the trash newspapers, but I think that restricting the freedom of the press when it comes to the "royal" family is not good.

Don't people have a right to know that he seems to often act like a douchebag?

Does his (Harry) behavior make you proud to be British citizen?

Icon Paris... because that her kind of thing... but its an anon post.

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Was he acting like a douchebag? I don't think its a case of protecting royals, but a case of granting them the same rights we should all have. The right to a private life. He was doing nothing wrong. Now if he was snorting coke off a 13 yr old hooker and wearing an SS uniform, then thats newsworthy. Playing strip billiards is not.

A certain son of a fascist motorsports bod was caught by a tabloid in a compromising video with vaguely germanic military undertones, the courts said it wasn't public interest, so how is it different for the ginger tit?

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"Does his (Harry) behavior make you proud to be British citizen?"

I wonder why he let someone else take pictures in his hotel suite.

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Awww! Ain't the iFad Generation cute?

When they grow up, there will be mass suicide when they realize how stupid they were to broadcast their personal private minutia to the planet ...

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