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Samsung has said it will invest around $4bn to renovate its US chip factory so it can increase production of the semiconductors used in smartphones and tablets. The Korean firm will plough the money into the plant in Austin, Texas, the only factory it has outside of Korea. Samsung said the cash will be used to renovate existing …

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Or perhaps...

It will 'regretfully no longer be able' to create those jobs and opportunities in Texas due to the outcome of Apple's pernicious litigation against the company.

or even more simply...

Sammy knows it'll get an appeal in Texas.

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Or perhaps again...

Since this plant in Austin mainly produces Apple's processors, that's not actually true and instead it has all to gain from Apple's legal victory.

A win by Apple would mean less competing Tegras and Exynos made in Taiwan and Korea respectively.

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Re: Or perhaps again...

Texas: home of the patent troll... methinks there's a method behind Samsung's actions here.

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Re: Or perhaps again...

Ah right, Samsung built their billion dollar factory in Texas because it's the home of patent trolls, not because it's a hotbed of the silicon industry. Got it.

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Re: Or perhaps again...

A win by Samsung in the court would mean 1) it didn't have to pay damages to Apple 2) would be able to sell its kit in the US AND 3) it would still be making stuff for Apple (because Apple isn't going to be knocked out of business through losing a registered design legal fight).

Trebles all round!

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RE:Sammy knows it'll get an appeal in Texas.

So cynical!

Well even if that is the reason, it's nice to see more producing going on rather the typical bankstering professions that don't contribute anything useful to the world.

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Re: RE:Sammy knows it'll get an appeal in Texas.

I'd like to see how all that spending would be funded without those "typical banksters" and their "profession"...

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Re: RE:Sammy knows it'll get an appeal in Texas.

Bankers that invest in a industry that actually produce physical goods or provide services are very necessary and good for the economy. Those that simply move money around from stock to stock as the market fluctuates generate money for their banks, but nothing for the rest of society.

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Apple produce very little themselves so couldn't do anything like this so its obvious that because Samsung decide that its a good idea to spread its ability to produce chips to various parts of the world as a method of not being caught out due to weather or political problems ie the floods that knocked HD production are of course only doing it due to Apples patent spat.

Intel have plants all over the world but no one thinks its due to any other reason than being in the best place possible economically and for distribution and safety of diverse locations.

If this was because of the court case don't you think they would have made the announcement a week before the jury was selected ?

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Most computer giants produce very little themselves. There's simply no need to buy your own fab facilities unless you feel you can save loads via vertical integration (see MOS and Commodore in the 80s).

It's much easier to shop around and pay someone else to build stuff for you. You can bring capacity online quickly by getting parts made by other people as well as your main supplier. Even Samsung do this by sourcing LCDs from other people when they are running short.

You also don't have to worry about hiring and firing.

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In other news, Samsung is staffing their Austin factory with AMD veterans

Samsung Hires Another AMD Veteran, Positioning Itself As Intel Rival

Sounds like great news for US companies like Intel!

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How the fuck do you send $4bn dollars renovating a plant?

Gold leaf wallpaper and diamond encrusted taps in the wash rooms...

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I vote the above...

...as the daftest comment posted today.

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"How do you send $4bn dollars renovating a plant?"

Umm, by buying the equipment. You're obviously not familiar with the cost of the equipment in a modern fab ... $4bn is probably in the right ballpark for a modern 28nm and below production facility. Individual pieces of equiment can be priced in the millions of dollars so it soon adds up.

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And why does the kit cost so much?

Is it because Samsung also builds the kit, so the money flows round & round the same business?

That was the point of my question...

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Re: I vote the above...

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I vote the above...

...as the daftest comment posted today.

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Hasn't RICHTO posted anything then ??

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Re: I vote the above...

He has, but he checks the "post anonymously" box...

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@Alan 6

There are only a couple of companies in the world that make the technology needed to fab at 28nm, and Samsung isn't one of them. It's a very specialised and very expensive business.

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@Alan 6

No, Samsung does not build the kit. There are companies like ASM Lithography that build the kit. Samsung just builds the processors that is built by the kit. You probably have heard about ASML before. Intel has spent more than $4 billion on a 15% stake in the company, TSMC spent over $1 billion on a 5% stake with a promise of another $95 million in five years. Samsung is also expected to invest in the company as well.

Why would Samsung build this technology when it it is cheaper to buy it. It is getting harder and harder to get the process size smaller and smaller. There is more than one-way to do it, some are better than others. If you build the kit, you might get stuck with a process that is not as good as what is offered elsewhere but you have no choice but to use what you built though. If 15% is worth around $4 billion, the company is worth over $25 billion. Intel doesn't even have enough cash to buy the company nor would they want to.

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Samsung learns the rules of the game.

1. Be so good you are capable of destroying the indigenous semiconductor (and other) industry.

2. Start getting lawsuits from in country companies.

3. Pay protection money in the form of inward investment.

4. Government lays off.

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Well done Austin!

It was a bit of a coup when you got the original plant. Getting this investment is a testament to the good works the people have done there.

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Maybe..

This could be a way around US import bans when they get sued in the future?

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Re: Maybe..

Yeah, that's what we need more corporations inporting Chinese slave shop produced crap to the U.S. without paying duties that match import duties of goods into China.

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In the U.S, you can buy...

...all the "justice" you can afford. Samsung has lots of money to buy what they want from municipalities and the FTC.

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Samsung probably saved way more than this...

...by using Chinese slave labor.

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Would be a nice way to avoid import restrictions....

Perhaps they might not build the devices there, but an intra-factory transfer of "stuff", which then just happens to get dispatched from Texas?...

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