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Fans of the artist Beck must wait until December for his new album - and if they want to hear it, they can play it themselves. As you may have heard, Beck has said he'll issue his next album Song Reader as sheet music, rather than as a performed and produced sound recording. "The songs here are as unfailingly exciting as you’d …

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Piracy??

My arse.. He's just finally realised his vocal talent is non existant..

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Re: Piracy??

Musical fascist alert.

Just because an artist isn't to your taste, that doesn't necessarily mean they're talentless. Now get back to listening to Coldplay.

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Re: Piracy??

Possibly, but at least that puts him one up on Bob Dylan in the self-awareness stakes..... ;-D

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Except that he is talentless though..

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Re: Piracy??

As Dylan said I will leave the music awards to Donovan. Some artists do care about more than money and fame and for the most part any musician you have ever heard not from your home town has more money than you do including Beck.

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Re: Piracy??

And I am not saying piracy is good in any way. I am just saying most of the artists I love didn't do it for the money and in many ways loathe the corrupt western money whore aspect of our culture in general. I like the Grateful Dead biz model (lol not that they considered it that way) of letting people freely share your music including recording concerts and making your money on the tours. Of course not everyone can do that.

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It's sort of ingenious in a way

You'll doubtless get some pretty talented folks knocking up some excellent versions (err interpretations) of the stuff and some unlikely remixes, etc.

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Re: It's sort of ingenious in a way

Then instantly get take down notices by his label and/or riaa*. It'd also be fun getting sued for infringing some copyright somewhere. It's genius!!

Having said that, this could be the push I needed to dust off the old guitar and finish learning it... again. :)

* I am sort of joking, guessing it's actually free to perform the song yourself on youtube, but not to redistribute the sheet music or lyrics right?

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Won't be selling many of these...

Piracy by photocopier?

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Re: Won't be selling many of these...

photocopier? that so 80s dude! someone will scan these in and then they'll be up on the interwebs and you'll be able to download it via torrent just like it was a normal audio release. 'cept the filesize of the rar's will be smaller so it'll download much faster.

All that's needed is some kind of OCR that can convert scanned sheet music into a midi file...

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Re: Won't be selling many of these...

Here you go

http://audiveris.kenai.com/

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Re: Won't be selling many of these...

"All that's needed is some kind of OCR that can convert scanned sheet music into a midi file..." - what, like SharpEye?

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Re: Won't be selling many of these...

Vocaloid turns sheet music into music doesn't it?

So Hatsune Miku interpretations.

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Re: Won't be selling many of these...

Oh, like Photoscore then?

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Re: Won't be selling many of these...

Just as anyone can download the OCR'd version, a programming artist will write the OCR program for themselves to interpret it in their own unique way - not just accept the interpretation of others - Beck may have thought it through further than you.

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When ever I see the name Beck...

...I always get a little excited but these days it's never Jeff, the guitar god, it's always that Scientrollogist instead. Bummer.

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Meh

He's shite anyway.

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Each to their own, of course.

Personally, I found his highlight was Sea Change, (as opposed to the hit and miss of his first two albums - and didn't latch onto anything else other than Sea Change).

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Will Nobody Think of the Musicians?

Home scanning/printing is killing sheet music!

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Re: Will Nobody Think of the Musicians?

I'm going to have to feed this into the 3D printer and see what comes out.

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Re: Will Nobody Think of the Musicians?

Xenu pulling a goatse?

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Re: Will Nobody Think of the Musicians?

Home 3D printing is killing vinyl?

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Re: Home 3D printing is killing vinyl?

It's true!

http://www.instructables.com/id/3D-printing-records-for-a-Fisher-Price-toy-record-/

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See also: Gillian Welch, Everything is Free

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_hZWTdc9Us

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Brilliant stunt but fighting piracy?

Surely, all it will take is a bunch of scanned PDFS to be put up of the sheet music?

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Cant we just have a musicxml file?

Or can someone scan the booklet in through audiveris and play it that way?

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It's certainly a rather more creative publicity stunt than the sort of crap the PR/Advertising pond life usually come up with.

However this is really going to bite him on the arse if he waits too long to release his own recording. People will be comparing the work of some really talented amateurs with his usual mediocre efforts.

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Someone will convert it to a GM MIDI file, job done.

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Can someone explain to why Beck releasing a sheet music album has anything whatsoever to do with piracy?

It almost looks to like the article is trying to conflate an artistic experiment (a logical extension of the whole lo-fi ethos) with a totally unrelated piracy arguament in order to support an unpopular opinion.

I could be wrong, and Beck has sucked for a long time anyway.

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"Beck doesn't explicitly say that the sheet music release is a response to piracy ... However his UK publisher is happy if you were to draw that inference."

C.

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...as, indeed, is Orlowski.

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Re: ...as, indeed, is Orlowski.

Hey, don't complain! Andrew used the word "freetard" in an article about copyright and enabled the comments!

You see, Andrew? Now that didn't hurt so much, did it? ;)

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Who the hell is Beck?

Can't say I've ever heard of him/her/it, I confess.

GJC

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Re: Who the hell is Beck?

beck's pretty cool IMO. check it out.

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Re: Who the hell is Beck?

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=beck&l=1

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Re: Who the hell is Beck?

Whaaaa?? Don't you watch Futurama?

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Re: Who the hell is Beck?

Oh, fair point - I do now recall the Futurama reference. I thought exactly the same when I watched that episode, too.

I suppose some research is in order...

GJC

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That is actually a cool idea.

Or at least a new, interesting thought.

With the current state of modern music, I encourage new thought anywhere it crops up.

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Re: That is actually a cool idea.

I too like the idea. Pay the performers or perform it yourself.

And the bonus is that if he can't sing you can end up with his songs well sung in a way that doesn't hide the songwriter, which is one of the fundamental problems with the music business that leads to a mix of ephemeral singers and singer-songwriters who can't sing well.

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Re: Or at least a new, interesting thought.

New?

I think Beethoven, etc. may disgree...

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Just a load of sheet

The music charts used to be based on the sales of the sheet music for the songs.

How every retro.

I like the idea.

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Scientologist

No further comment required.

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Meh. Beck's the US equivalent of Radiohead - dull wallpaper music for middle class uni students.

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Meh

Nothing new to see here, Bach and Vivaldi were doing this more than two centuries ago and their music is still well alive and kicking. I always wondered how did they manage to achieve fame without an industry association.

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Extremely rich patrons.

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"I always wondered how did they manage to achieve fame without an industry association."

Fans, basically.

J.S. Bach (I assume you mean) wrote his stuff before cheap music printing became available, so most of it was unknown until Mendelssohn revived some of it in the middle of the 19th century. We don't know how many pages of manuscript have been used to light fires or wrap sausages over the years...

Clementi's licencing payments to one L. van Beethoven helped the impoverished Viennese composer continue to write music, in the face of intense piracy at home! Clementi was a founder of the Philharmonic Society of London, which went on to commission a little ditty by L. van (sometimes referred to as L's 9th).

PS: Has anyone else noticed that independent CD shops are in sharp decline, but that musical instrument shops seem to be doing fine,

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Genius, in a way.

Think about it - whatever you may think of his performances, he is offering his compositions for you to perform yourself (and performing music offers you a much richer experience than simply plugging in ear pods) in a day and age when humming something is seen as infringing somebody's intellectual property rights.

While musicians (and the likes of that Bieber girl, who perhaps can't be considered "musicians") make their wares as their job and for their income, our access to popular music has become instantaneous, but our ability to do stuff with it has gotten further and further away - like the thing about having a radio on at work (why should somebody pay a licence for that? didn't the radio station pay a licence for the broadcast? what's the difference between a dozen personal radios and one stood beside the photocopier?). So now we have something we can examine, interpret, perform, and hopefully enjoy.

Well done.

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Re: Genius, in a way.

Upvoted, solely because I hate the PRS bollocks we have to put up with.

We're forced to pay for a fucking PRS licence in our waiting rooms (this is a hospital; there's little leniency) just so we can put BBC News on for patients. However, because we ONLY pay for these areas, this makes it illegal for me to put my (paid for!) Spotify account on in our office of two. I'm paying royalties every fucking month, but this is somehow irrelevant?

Beck? No opinion.

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Re: Genius, in a way.

I upvoted you, sir.

Then I tried to downvote you for showing off in italics...

Bah.

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Re: Genius, in a way.

You are aware that things such as italics and bold are fairly easy if you use html tags properly.

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