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A ghostly tweet has arrived from the outer reaches of Gallifrey - OK, more like the BBC canteen in Cardiff: Richard E Grant will star in this year's Doctor Who Christmas special in which fans will see the Time Lord's newest companion for the first time. The latest series of the hugely popular sci-fi telly drama is in production …

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Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

It's purpose is now to sell toy sonic screwdrivers to kids.

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Oh no it isn't.

There there, dear. You just sit down and drink your lime cordial while the people who do like the thrilling adventures of the fictitious Time Lord enjoy the 11 hours of new material they get a year.

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

This from Mr Big Pile of #2. And everyone means you and your friends in the bathroom, right.

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

I notice that you are AC ?

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Sod the Olympics

Doctor Who's something that's probably worth watching in HD.

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Meh

While to

While to some fans the new assistant is a bit of eye candy, sadly she has little acting ability.

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she has little acting ability

I recall smiler comments about Billi Piper

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

Oh you cynic. It exists to employ actors with HUGE cheekbones. Acting ability is listed as desirable but not essential.

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

You are right - it was BBC'd to death and they just keep raping it for all it's worth and will continue to do so till the money runs out.

It's sci-fi for plebs - dumbed down, family friendly, PC crap. Which is why so many people like it but those of us who enjoy real sci-fi hate it. Then there are the crowd of older people who liked the old ones and feel obliged to watch and defend the new ones even though they are NOTHING like the old ones. They may as well have made it a different series but it's a common tactic to crowbar a new idea into an old successful one to make more money.

Also I think the next doctor should be Stephen Fry ;)

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Re: Oh no it isn't.

"thrilling adventures of the fictitious Time Lord"

I think the "fictitious" was a bit redundant there. Unless you think there are real time lords out there in which case I suggest you put down the remote and go outside for some air.

As for thrilling, sure , if you've never read any decent adult sci fi in your life.

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

"efend the new ones even though they are NOTHING like the old ones"

Lets be honest , the old ones were utter tripe too and it wasn't just because of the low budgets. The scripts and acting were appalling. Dr Who has always been a kids program and always will be and IMO there's nothing sadder than an adult pretending its on the same level of sophistication as sci fi written by say Ian M Banks or Neil Asher or Heinlein. Its not even fit to lick the boots of those authors. The sort of people who think Dr Who is amazing are the sort of people who wouldn't recognise real science fiction if it shot them in the head with a plasma gun,

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

Had to upvote the OP.

I have watched most of the new Dr Who episodes as a "Passing a Sunday afternoon (The long, dark teatime of the soul)" kind of thing and they do offer some amusement. Sadly the amusement is working out how weak the plot devices will be -- well that and the assistant can be easy on the eye. Oh, and let's not forget Alex Kingston.

As proper Sci-Fi Red Dwarf is superior -- it's also superior as entertainment.

The Sci-Fi aspects of Dr Who are more like children's fantasy like Harry Potter with rules made up arbitrarily to shunt the plot along rather than real self-consistent Sci-Fi.

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

"It's purpose is now to sell toy sonic screwdrivers to kids."

And promote homosexuality to kids as well, judging by how many times it's been insinuated in recent series.

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

>real sci-fi

Oh dear.

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

Why doesn't everybody calm down and just enjoy it, or watch something else?!

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Re: real sci-fi

Arthur C Clarke*, Isaak Asimov**. William Gibson***, Neil Stephenson****.

Yes, real Sci-Fi does exist and it is entertaining and the premises are real rather than fantasy.

*Geostationary satellites.

**No need to mention.

***The internet being a very important medium where people can be screwed (and more).

****Not a prediction but many MMORPGs based upon his work. Also, data havens and law are much discussed.

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Re: Dr. Who is a lot of shite, and everyone knows it

Obvious troll is ... apparently not sufficiently obvious.

Dear Reg commentators: Everything you like is crap, all of your opinions are infantile, and everything you think you know is wrong. Now get it all out at once and then stop responding to flamebait, eh?

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Re: Oh no it isn't.

You mean you can PROVE that Time Lords don't exist?

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Old news

keep up el reg

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Richard E Grant

According to Russell Davies, R.E.G. gave such a phoned-in performance of the Doctor in his animated debut that he guaranteed he'd never be considered for the real thing.

Now if they can get Ecclesdoc and that excitable fellow back for a 50th anniversary special, then I'll be interested.

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Re: Richard E Grant

RTD again proves he doesnt know what he's talking about. REG Gave a better performance than that Eccleston guy could dream of. A depressive Doctor was more suited to follow the fall of Gallifery than that exitable "I just drunk all the red cordial" performance we got instead.

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pre-watershed....

..so no actual unwrapping.

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Re: pre-watershed....

Is that a sonic screwdriver in your pocket - or are you just pleased to see me ?

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Re: pre-watershed....

Dont forget its for kiddies!!! - of ALL ages.... :) :)

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"..so no actual unwrapping."

Thank goodness, given the gay-fetish nudity that prevailed in Torchwood. Proof of course that the Bee won't chase an audience:

"We need some nudity to distract from a weak plot this week!"

"Real, brightly lit, extensive full frontal nudity?"

"Yes!"

"Has to be Eve or John"

"Barrowman. We don't want anybody to enjoy it too much."

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Re: pre-watershed....

Surely it's a mistake, anything written by Steven Moffat is not suitable for kiddies? ;)

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Not too fond on the recent incarnations,

they seem a little bit overtly PC - probably the production teams fault mind. Now if they went left of field and made Brian Blessed "Dr Who", that would somewhat placate me.

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Re: a bit Pc

There was one with a baseball bat once

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Re: Not too fond on the recent incarnations,

or, as we are having Withnail, and have had &I... what about uncle Monty as the Dr with Jake (complete with eels) as the assistant.

'I intend to have you, davros, even if it is to be burglary!' try getting that aired before the watershed.

Mines the uber-cool full length leather

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Re: Not too fond on the recent incarnations,

he's been in it already

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Who?

Jenna Louise Coleman, had no idea who she was...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article767748.ece/BINARY/03.05.08+-+Jenna-Louise+Coleman+arrive+at+her+hotel+after+the+Soap+Awards

Crikey.

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Re: Who?

Missed opportunity to 'team her up' with Karen Gillan I think.

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Re: Who?

Karen's a lot easier on the eye, at least mine.

But then redheads do do something to a male's brain. Makes it go haywire!

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Re: Who?

> arrive+at+her+hotel+after+the+Soap+Awards

With an intro like that I expected a photo of a half-dressed, one-heeled drunk throwing up in a flower pot. I'm already impressed...

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Re: Who?

Throwing up?

Sorry - I just got images in my head of 2Assistants1Cup.

Weird.

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Daleks?

They seem to have abandoned the Tellytubby Daleks. This is a good thing.

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Even better...

We couldn't see the East End in any part of the trailer.

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Re: Daleks?

I think they've been reclassified as an 'officer class' - there are a couple at the back. This collection includes various classic era daleks too - most notably the special weapons dalek from revelation of the daleks.

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Re: Daleks?

No - it's a bad thing. I liked the big colourful Daleks.

But apparently the decision was more to do with budget than anything else. Personally I'm just saddened to see them back. I like the Daleks, but under RTD they just got silly. One Dalek was a deadly threat. Then you got five Daleks and they were more easily dealt with. Then you got hundreds of Daleks and they were barely a threat. Then you got millions of Daleks and they were dispatched by the thousand. The more Daleks you got, the less deadly they became.

I'll retract my opinion if they actually become scary again, but I fear more RTD-style "Daleks are scary because I tell you they are, even though they never achieve anything".

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Re: Daleks?

Actually it was Remembrance of the Daleks (damn, my geekiness is showing now).

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Re: Even better...

> We couldn't see the East End in any part of the trailer.

Lots of places have an East End.

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Re: Daleks?

How is it down to budget? They've already made a whole bunch of Tellytubby Daleks, and may even have more in stock than the old ones. So surely it's just a matter of choosing which models you pull out of storage and film?

The scene in the trailer with thousands of Daleks is probably CGI, so again it doesn't matter which model they used.

The new & improved Daleks went down like a cup of cold sick with the average viewer, not just the nerds who get worked up by any kind of change to the show. It was an attemt by Moffat and his team to put their own mark on the show and separate it from the RTD era. Like new Coke, it failed and they brought the old one back.

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Re: Daleks?

New Daleks, Epic FAIL.

Need to be replaced with the TV Offal "Gay Daleks", now that would be a massive improvement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZN7gpfIEgU&feature=relmfu

Oooo, RTD by the fruit counter in Tesco, Oooo.

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Re: remembrance/revelation

Yes, of course, I know that really. No idea why I typed revelation instead of remembrance-I'd not even opened the wine at that point.

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Re: Daleks?

Man, I thought Daleks look and talk cheesy enough as is, even the pre-Teletubby ones. But this clip has me trying to contain my laughter XD

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"How is it down to budget? They've already made a whole bunch of Tellytubby Daleks"

They made five - one of each colour. They had to destroy two of them to create the stone Daleks in Pandorica Opens / Big Bang which leaves four. I presume they have more of the old ones. That's all I know anyway - I just read a news story saying that with how tight the budgets are in the BBC now, they had to go back to the old ones if they wanted to do them again any time soon.

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One leads to tragedy, millions are a statistic.

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I don't think white wee-wee will be suitable for a pre-watershed audience!

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What I do hope for...

Is a new twist when it comes to the storyline. So; putting the focus a little more back on the doctor and not so much the companion(s). It was fun, and I liked the first 'Amy Pond season' which all evolved around a weird crack in time in her bedroom.

Also I hope they will now let go of the idea to build up and re-run the whole thing in the finale of the season. It was surprising with the season mentioned above. It was nicely executed in the last season with the Silence but much less surprising because you already somewhat expected it to happen... Personally straight from the first episode when we had "2" doctors.

So I really hope they'll do something new on that part. No complaints, just a suggestion.

And I surely hope they'll let Matt Smith do what he does.. During the first episodes I kept the feeling he was trying to mimic Tennant (who I considered a very good doctor). But as the episodes progressed I have to admit he really managed to put his own 'touch' on the character.

SO; is it xmas already? ;-)

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Re: What I do hope for...

If you dunno what the storyline, you do not understand, or have not seen the trailer... get back to yer noddy books....

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