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Microsoft's servers have been going bonkers processing account requests for its newly launched Outlook.com webmail service, but there's plenty of evidence to suggest that Redmond's Gmail competitor may be less of a breakout success than it would have us believe. On Tuesday, just six hours after the service launched, the Outlook …

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Anonymous Coward

How long until....

....@outlook.com has the same pessimistic spamassassin weight as @hotmail.com on the boxes I run? :)

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Devil

Re: How long until....

Y'know, I was just about to ask here... should I just go ahead and put outlook.com into the "shoot on sight" list in my SpamAssassin ruleset right now?

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Anonymous Coward

I still won't use it because it is still crap and I don't want to to entrust my emails to a third party. I don't use gmail either, and for the same snooping reasons.

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How do you communicate - via carrier pigeon?

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Anonymous Coward

He probably runs his own mail server..... like I do :-)

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How to do it?

I know....if only there was a way to use email without using Hotmail or Gmail...

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Re: How to do it?

"I run my own mail server" does not equal "at no point are my emails entrusted to a third party"

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I used to as well

Then I got lazy with backups and wham lost a months worth of emails when my server decided to eat its hard drives :(

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Re: How to do it?

It's pretty close. Most of the time the emails are only being trusted to the recipient's mail server. Mail doesn't tend to get bounced from server to server much - if at all - these days. It's probably about as trustable as you can get. Eventually you have to trust some other server unless you stick to internal mail :)

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Re: How to do it?

> "I run my own mail server" does not equal "at no point are my emails entrusted to a third party"

It does if the person/business I'm emailing to runs their own mail server as well. SSL all the way.

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Re: I used to as well

Can I suggest http://www.rsync.net/

Automated backuos at whatever level you are prepared to pay for. I pay 6USD a month for several years worth of both business and personal email

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Happy

Name Taken ?

There are some tricks to not having your name taken.

Then again when I complained 50 years ago mom told me it was not too late to go back to her first choice:

Pius XII.

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So, what addresses ARE taken?

Like for example: the_register@outlook.com just to name one!

There are variations on a theme here!

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Hack /and/ a hoax

First; the whole Outlook.com stuff is a hack, and a very crude one at that. I'm not saying this due to the interface or such; that's fine enough to work with. If you work with Outlook 2010 on a daily basis (which I do) then its even somewhat bearable. No, if you select any other option besides mail; like the used-to-be integrated SkyDrive or Calendar function you're taken right back to the old Hotmail interface. In my opinion that's a too poor of a design to be even remotely funny.

At the very least give us users a properly integrated environment to work with instead of something which feels like several individual parts roughly glued together by a couple of huge buttons.

But I also call this a hoax... "One million people signed up" ? No, that would be 999.999 because I never signed up for this; I was simply thrown into Outlook.com the moment when I checked my Hotmail inbox. I tried outlook.com but gave up and moved back to Hotmail. Why not if you're constantly thrown back into Hotmail anyway the very moment when you want to check your SkyDrive or calendar using something else besides your phone (I'm on WP7) ?

This is IMO another classic example as to why MS needs to get their act together and stop ruining good working stuff "because". Haven't those idiots (personal opinion) never stopped to think that while outlook.com may attract some new users it could also mean others might walk off when you enforce this upon them?

But my biggest gripe with all this, the one which IMVHO overshadows all: When oh when will Microsoft FINALLY realize that the only time they should launch a new product is WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY READY ?!!1

(1 was typed for a more dramatic effect ;-))

Seriously; they had a not too bad (IMO) * integrated * environment from which you could access your mail, your Messenger contacts, Calendar /and/ SkyDrive all from the same web interface. And they broke it up for reasons I haven't managed to grasp yet.

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Re: Hack /and/ a hoax

It's a preview you muppet.

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Re: Hack /and/ a hoax

Get used to it. There are still sections of various Microsoft that look like they haven't been updated since they were launched.

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Re: Hack /and/ a hoax

@ShelLuser

"Haven't those idiots (personal opinion) never stopped to think that while outlook.com may attract some new users it could also mean others might walk off when you enforce this upon them?"

The last version of Outlook I was forced to use was unreliable and a pain in the neck. While that might have been down to bad configuration, the very name leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

The name Outlook also reminds me of the huge amounts of spam I got at that time because our superiors couldn't be bothered addressing the issue.

No thanks.

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Paris Hilton

I've got my real name for the first time ever on a free webmail service - yay! I will never use it though probably!

Also, not keen on the interface colour scheme - looks a bit NHS clap clinic website rather than funky new email service.

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Win8 minimalism

As we should expect in the new minimalist Win8 world - blechhh

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Feel free to change the colour scheme. It's easy enough to do.

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Re: Win8 minimalism

By Win8 minimalism you really mean 'chromeless Metro-fication with some silly wastage of space'.

I have an old hotmail account. Logged in, tried the new outlook dot com interface, reverted back to good ol' hotmail.

With the new UI, you need one additional click to sort emails and do most other common email tasks.

Microsoft devs, simplifying the UI is about making something more functionally *elegant*, and NOT about universally dumbing everything down to the lowest common denominator. Until you have fully grasped this fundamental concept, your designed UI will be crap.

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Same here

got my name, logged off, probably never use it again apart from registering for services I don't want to be spammed by

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Re: Win8 minimalism

Henceforth known as Winimalism.

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Paris Hilton

paris.hilton@outlook.com

I can report that this one is not available :(

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Name claiming, but... Here comes da' spam!

I confess that I did sign up. Partly to claim my "own" handle, partly just to see what looked new, but mostly in hopes of an effective anti-spam system. Right now my impression is that I will not be using it. Perhaps quarterly visits to keep my handle?

The #1 problem of email remains spam, and I could not find ANY evidence of new anti-spam capabilities within outlook.com. I had some hopes. As part of their "Let's be less evil" campaign, Microsoft has been doing some good work upstream against the spammers, so it was possible they were ready to take some action on the downstream end. If so, I could not find it. Sorry, but I don't need another email address for the spammers to abuse.

There are lots of possibilities, but here is what I think would most satisfy me. It would be an integrated spam-fighting system something like SpamCop, but on steroids. Rather than one round of analysis with a confirmation of complaints to the spammer's ISP and webhost, I want a multi-round system that would gradually refine the analysis and targeting to go after ALL of the spammers' infrastructure, to pursue ALL of the spammers' accomplices, and help and protect ALL of the spammers' victims. You don't have to use it, but I sure would. I really hate spam and I want to have the tools to be a spam fighter first class.

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Re: Name claiming, but... Here comes da' spam!

The spam filters seem to be fine. Certainly a lot better than hotmail used to be. All the spam was in my spam folder and there were no false positives or negatives

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Re: Name claiming, but... Here comes da' spam!

I've sent a few test messages to my new @outlook.com address, every one of which was incorrectly flagged as spam. Not a promising start...

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I grabbed an address

Just to get decent name@address, but will I use it?

Probably not much, but yet-another-email address, so far unknown to spammers is sometime nice.

The UI is a little too stripped down, (esp on my iPad) but otherwise.. it works.

Suspect it is slow though - first email I sent from the Outlook account took ages to pop up in Gmail.

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Re: I grabbed an address

I managed to get fraudmanagement@outlook.com and antifraud@outlook.com

Oh the fun I could have If I had no morals....

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This is the message I received

from Microsoft:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7994985/Outlook.jpg

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Does Outlook.com support POP3?

Sorry for going slightly off topic, but this question is meaningful to a lot of people, not just me.

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Re: Does Outlook.com support POP3?

Yup. (we're a small business that moved to using Office365 about a year ago......Outlook.com plays nicely with setting it up on an android device)

POP setting

Server name: XXXX.outlook.com

Port: 995

Encryption method: SSL

IMAP setting

Server name: XXXXX.outlook.com

Port: 993

Encryption method: SSL

SMTP setting

Server name: XXXXX.outlook.com

Port: 587

Encryption method: TLS

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Re: Does Outlook.com support POP3?

Thanks, Raphael!

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Re: Does Outlook.com support POP3?

I'm struggling to see why the genuinely helpful reply above was downvoted.

Mouse mis-fire? Personal vendetta? Pavlovian reaction to the word "Android"?

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Re: Does Outlook.com support POP3?

When I added my @outlook.com email into Gmail it already knew all the settings for the pop3 server, you just needed to type in your email and outlook password.

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Re: Does Outlook.com support POP3?

My guess would be a downvote for heresy.

Daring to suggest the use of an MS product on Android and also daring to suggest that an MS service works.

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Re: Does Outlook.com support POP3?

Currently 4 posts 3 down voted with the word Android in them. Lets see if I can trigger it as well.

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O.M.G.

"Whenever a new major email service comes out (such as Yahoo, Hotmail, Gmail) I usually sign up to try it out," a reader who goes by "MrP-" tells El Reg in an email. "Also being a Microsoft service and being named Outlook.com it seems like an important address to have."

really?? does no one really understand why the outlook mail app has been "lovingly" known as "lookout!" for over a decade? hotmaul^H^Hil is no better... and then there's the forced tie in with that bing thing... my servers /still/, after a decade of inquires, record searches from the m$ based "thing" searching for URLs that have never existed... we're talking about completely numerical URLs with various dashes and underlines in them... NO one from any of the M$ base search services has been able to answer this question and it has been put to all of them more times than i care to count and voiced in more ways than the gestapo would question a known caught in the act criminal...

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Re: O.M.G.

So THAT's what stream of conscience writing looks like....

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Re: O.M.G.

So THAT's what stream of conscience writing looks like....

I'm not sure he's morally troubled by this.

Mind you I am not 100% certain he's conscious either.

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I just registered one

But it fails to show my inbox in Firefox. *yawn*

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Re: I just registered one

Working fine in Firefox here. Just tried it out.

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Wow

I just had to register theregister@outlook.com. Time to find that leaked list of email addresses from last year and start sending everyone "official" letters for the release of funds....

I know im a shit.

And yes I really do have the email :P little surprised that no one else here on ElReg thought of that....let alone the staff.

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Re: Wow

Who has bofh@outlook.com ? Not me, but I sure tried!

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I agree with one of those interviewed..

.. my only motivation for trying it out was the email address. Since mine was taken, even my alias, then hummphh dont care.

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Start making a few more @hotmail email accounts now

For those of you who are too young to remember, back in the day you could have got a very cool @rocketmail email account... until Rocketmail was hastily acquired by Yahoo. Some friends of mine, to this day, still have a @rocketmail email account.

But Microsoft is in for a rude shock if it thinks leveraging the Outlook (Office is successful) brand onto webmail is going to enable it to compete with rivals. This is the same logical fallacy that assumes that leveraging Metro touch-centric UI onto desktop users for Windows 8 will make them more likely to pick up a Windows 8 phone or tablet.

It's also a shame that Microsoft is scrapping Hotmail, one of its more iconic brands which is immediately identifiable with Microsoft.

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Re: Start making a few more @hotmail email accounts now

Sorry, couldn't read any further after I saw the word "leveraging".

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Life's too short

I gave up on all Microsoft web properties years ago as I just got sick of the hoop jumping needed. I used to keep a couple of Hotmail accounts along with yahoo etc for online signups. Problem was Hotmail (at the time) didn't do POP3 and if you didn't check the account every two months, it was closed. Yahoo only needed checking every 4 months to prevent expiry, but since it did do POP3 checking was no extra effort.

But you'd still need a Hotmail/Live/whatever account to sign up to some other marginally interesting MS service - often just a peek at a single message on an MS "Group". They'd insist on a Hotmail address to sign up to Passport, and Passport to get access to whatever bloody service it was, although even that usually entailed some extra kind signup of it's own - half an hour to access one barely interesting post just ate away at my will to live, not least as you'd have to jump through it all again 3 months later. As a result I'm sure I'm now actually allergic to certain shades of blue. I'm sure there was a plan in there somewhere, but fuck knows what it was.

Just assuming that anything Microsoft do that involves signing up will never ever be energy well spent works really well for me, and anyway, when was the last time a new free email service was actually interesting?

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Re: Life's too short

If you just want to do random online signups, you can use a disposable email account. I recommend dispostable.

No registration required.

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