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Samsung has sold more than 10 million of its flagship Galaxy S III phones worldwide in seven weeks, according to Shin Jong-kyun, the company's mobile tech top dog. The phone was first unveiled on 29 May in the UK, it runs Android Ice Cream Sandwich and it packs a 1280 x 720 PenTile OLED display and an ARM Cortex A9-based quad- …

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Anonymous Coward

Not bad...

"Not quite keeping up with the iPhone 4S".. Sure, but the SIII would have been bought by people who's actually looked at the spec and decided to buy it.

Not quite the same as the herd that are already saying they'll buy the unspec'ed unseen iphone5 when it comes out, just because it's got a picture of a fruit on the back.

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Re: Not bad...

oooooh, jealous-much?

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Not bad...

I don't think the average person actually cares about "spec" they just assume that the III is an improvement on the II... which it is.

***Anecdotal evidence alert!***

I've seen quite a lot of SGS III's while out in public

***Anecdotal evidence alert!***

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Re: Not bad...

Not quite the same as the herd that are already saying they'll buy the unspec'ed unseen iphone5 when it comes out, just because it's got a picture of a fruit on the back.

Damn. And I thought it might be because some of them were reaching the end of their iPhone 4 contracts, and being happy with IOS in general, would simply buy the latest version. This is not a behaviour limited to phone brands - many car buyers/leasers apply the same logic.

Written on Galaxy Note btw.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Not bad...

Cut it out, Barry.

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Re: Not bad...

@ Anon OP, while I think you're a bit harsh, I do agree that the iPhone has now become The Default Option... the option which comes up when people think of "smartphone", and well done on them for getting there. 70-odd million iPhones sold in just 6 months is astounding, but a lot of that is because of it's image, peer-pressure (not pressure, but can't think of a better phrase), the fact that everyone seems to have one, so it must be good, etc.

I hate having to put my opinions into context by stating that I have a Galaxy S3, but there you go, I do, and I love it. Each to their own, the iPhone is pretty nice, even if I think most buy iPhones because of sheep mentality.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Not bad...

Huge sales volumes + planned obsolescence = a 'shiny' junk future for our kids... :-(

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Not bad...

Very much a default offering, more than once I've been offered an iPhone,

so that is why its sold so many, because its pushed more...

Personally I usually laugh when they offer me an iPhone as an upgrade, since I use Android phones I consider iPhones less capable for my purpose

BUT the iPhone is an ok smart phone, I just wouldn't buy one..

Right now I own an S3, why? because it was the best Android phone on the market at the time of upgrade...

in 2 years, I don't know what I will use...

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Re: Not bad...

"70-odd million iPhones sold in just 6 months is astounding" - what's 70 million Android activations in 70 days (2 and a half months) then?

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Re: Not bad...

what's 70 million Android activations in 70 days (2 and a half months) then?

a lot of activations divided across a lot of different manufactures

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Re: Not bad...

@ bdam - as much as an Android fanbois I'll admit to being, you're comparing a single smartphone range (4/5 phones) with an entire platform/OS (ie. a range of 50-100 phones/tablets).

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Re: Not bad...

If anyone thinks specifications other than those that can be perceived directly like screen size sell phones then they're living in a fantasy world. Customer satisfaction is the main factor, both by word of mouth and because salespeople understand that their commission is safer if they push a phone with a low return rate. Hence Samsung are rightly being rewarded for launching the latest in a pretty decent series of phones.

Clock rates, core counts, memory sizes, etc, mean basically nothing unless and until they actually become detrimental to the user experience.

For evidence of this from the other direction, see any of the postmortems on Windows Phone 7. No-one has ever said 'it would have succeeded except that customers are no longer willing to buy single core phones' and of the did they'd be laughed at.

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Re: Not bad...

The only interesting thing about this post is that it helps us establish a ratio for the foaming at the mouth "Android users are better, Apple users are iSheep" types to the "Apple are great, Android users are arrogant dicks" types.

Apparently about 5:2.

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Re: Not bad... (@JDX)

Given that Android to iOS marketshare is about 5:3 (source: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/02/comscore-may-2012-smartphone/), that's a cheerleading victory for Android amongst The Register's ranks. Apply your own prejudice to decide to what extent, if any, Android users skew towards the technical versus Android users being more vocal versus Apple users being more vocal but Android users really skewing very much indeed towards the technical.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Not bad...

Specifications are no indication of quality.

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Anonymous Coward

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Great news, they all come with a free suitcase to carry them around in.

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Anonymous Coward

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But wait till the promised upgrades to the next sweet treat pudding fail to materialise, just like the delays to ICS if you ever got it, then you will hear the howl of S3 owners on the wind.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Not bad... But

Watch the sales drop when iOS 6 and the new iPhone arrives!!!!

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Anonymous Coward

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>I've seen quite a lot of SGS III's while out in public

They tend to stand out due to being white and huge.

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Re: Not bad...

iPhone's have planned obsolescence?

I had an iPhone 3G for two years, I had two major firmware updates in that time. iOS3 and iOS4.

So far with the 4 I've had iOS5 and iOS6 is due soon.

If that is planned obsolescence then what the hell are Android phones? DOA I think, you're lucky to get one major update.

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Re JDX

I guess that goes some way to disproving the iSheep hypothesis...

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Re: Not bad...

Its a phone, Specs are unimportant.

The Andriod is positioned as the iPhones cut price brother. People who want an iPhone buy an iPhone. People who want just a smartphone get an Android because its cheaper.

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what's 70 million Android activations in 70 days (2 and a half months) then?

a lot of activations divided across a lot of different manufactures

And you feel that customer choice like this is bad in some way? A lot of activations divided accross a loot of buyer options helping maintain the freedom that Apple continuously tries to remove from us by continuously starting spurious IP cases.

If Apple had anything that even began to look like a monopoly any more, someone could take them to court for trying to abuse it.

At least in the UK they will now have to take out adverts admitting that their ideas have not been stolen. Perhaps other places could adopt this idea too...

The <Fail> is for Apples attempts at keeping people under their thumb. Not in a free market they won't.

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Re: Not bad...

You missed out the feeling of not being part of a group of people who feel that this is the way they can be seen as superior, creative and beautiful.

Apple won't help you. Using their goods in that way will indicate the opposite. My having an Android proves nothing either way and nobody claims otherwise. Many iPhone users are just wannabes.

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Re: Not bad...

To repurpose the old IBM saying, "Nobody ever got fired/divorced for buying an iPhone."

By way of comparison, I do know of a case where a colleague bought the latest state of the art (at the time) Android phone and it turned into a complete fiasco. Installing apps slowed it to useless (weird); and no OS upgrade made available. YMMV.

Disclaimer: we've got iPhones but are Android-curious.

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Re: "a lot of activations divided across a lot of different manufactures"

Which no Android user actually cares about - just like no Widows user cares that ~233 million Windows licenses per year are spread over dozens of different PC manufacturers.

At the end of the day it's just a PC, or just a mobile device - what matters is the software, without which the hardware would be meaningless. And right now, far more people "care" about Android than iOS (about a million per day, or IOW double that of iOS, in fact).

This is why Apple fanboys are treated like cultists. They seem to care more about what benefits the Church of Apple than what benefits themselves. It's highly irrational, to put it mildly.

Anyway, I wish you good luck with your new iToy. You'll need it, if the disastrous 4S is anything to go by (still not fixed, BTW).

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Anonymous Coward

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The way I see it, the difference between Android phones and iPhones is thus:

If I buy an iPhone I am reliant solely on Apple to make a decent replacement at its end of life somewhere down the track. One stumble and I need to change my ecosystem in its entirety. If I buy an SIII, I get the best Android phone on the market at present but can feel slightly safer in that, manufacturer overlays aside, I have far more chance of its replacement (Android not just Samsung) being a market leader and/or something that hits the spot for me.

You're buying into an ecosystem of which your current phone is but one possible choice. I bought an iPhone because 4 years ago that was what was ahead in terms of usability. I am now looking at how Android phones have advanced and thinking "why not?". I'm still not a fan of shit like Kies and would much prefer it if Google would write some desktop syncing software like iTunes is (on Windows it's crap but on OSX it's fine) in order to support their product a little better. No, drag and drop doesn't pass muster as it's not syncing and mass storage mode only seems to work properly in Windows.

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Re: Not bad...

Except there are plenty of high end Android phones (e.g., the S3), and plenty of cheaper Iphones (anything pre-4S - I've seen even the 3GS still on sale).

People buy Android (or Symbian, WP, BlackBerry etc) for many reasons - because they want that phone, because they believe it's better. That such platforms deliver the product that consumers want, at a lower cost than Apple, is an extra benefit on top of that.

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Re: "a lot of activations divided across a lot of different manufactures"

Indeed - never in the most heated Windows vs Linux/Mac/Amiga/whatever debates in the 90s did I hear a Windows fan go "But look how much money Bill Gates makes!"

The way the media now treat technology companies like sports, as if we care about which one is doing better, is odd. It's only Apple fans that have recently tried that tactic. The rest of us, even those of us who get fanatical about technology, care about the end products, and how things look and compare for the consumer. If Nokia make phones at lower profits than Apple, that's good for consumers - yet recently the media spun that story as negative press for Nokia and positive for Apple. If Android or Windows runs on loads of devices, that's good for consumers - we don't care that Apple's model makes more money for them. The only people who should care are Apple shareholders - and if those are journalists, that's a conflict of interest anyway.

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Any Android phone automatically syncs with Google's servers.

Admittedly I was surprised that my Google Nexus had no PC software whatsoever, having previously enjoyed the useful software that came with my earlier Nokia 5800. But still, I can see the reasoning - your average user is better off just syncing with Google as it works automatically and easily, and anyone competent enough to worry about connecting their phone to their PC is competent enough to either drag and drop, or use whatever 3rd party software they like. It supports the open standard of MTP, so any media software supporting that should surely work fine? (And if Itunes doesn't support the open standard that is MTP, I'd say that's Itunes that is at fault. There is other software that will do the job.)

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That is part of the problem. I do not want to sync with Google's servers for reasons of both practicality and privacy. I have Gigs of music, photos, apps, and other bits on my phone. Syncing with the cloud is a non-starter. Backing up to the cloud is a non-starter. The only starter is my local machine. That's why I want the option.

I'm not sure why you mention iTunes and whether or not it supports MTP - it doesn't have to, it was written to support Apple devices. What I mentioned was that it would be good if Google, who wrote the OS, would write a syncing app for their OS rather than do their usual thing of part-finish jobs. If someone else cares to write one that offers as good a feature-set as iTunes at a minimum then that would be great but it doesn't seem to be the case hence we have shit like Kies. I even had issues syncing a Galaxy Tab on windows 7 with that crap.

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Re: "reliant solely on Apple"

Right, and not just for "a decent replacement" either, but for OS updates too, which Apple has a habit of arbitrarily cutting off when it wants you to give it more money (planned obsolescence).

Meanwhile, my two year-old SGS v1 is running ICS, regardless of what Samsung wants. You can only do that with Free Software like Android. That's the whole point of it.

Another thing to bear in mind is you can switch Android handsets as often as you want, between many different makes and models, and you get to keep your apps, just as you would with Windows or Linux if you switched PCs from one make and model to another. Whereas if you switch from Apple's closed ecosystem to anything else, you end up having to replace everything.

Between those crucial points, and the seemingly permanently dysfunctional state of Apple's "high quality" hardware, I find it astounding that anyone buys their products at all. There must be an awful lot of sheeple easily swayed by marketing propaganda out there.

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Re: "reliant solely on Apple"

Whereas if you switch from Apple's closed ecosystem to anything else, you end up having to replace everything.

Because you keep your apps when you switch from Android to Apple or from Android to WP?

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Anonymous Coward

People are obviously waiting for the new Nokia with Windows Phone 8

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I'm thinking of buying Nokia

If the share price continues to drop at the present rate in six months I'll be able to buy it with my National savings account. Nokia, that is. I've always wanted a Finnish sauna with a phone maker attached.

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@People

> People are obviously waiting for the new Nokia with Windows Phone 8

Hmmmm "people" is a plural, did you mean "person" ?

Oh how the mighty are fallen :-(

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I got one the other day as a free-upgrade. Awesome phone with great features. Is there an El Reg app?

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Yes, but...

Yes, but it's universally agreed to be shite, and in desperate need of an update/revamp/complete-rewrite.

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re: Is there an El Reg app?

Of course there is! How could you possibly render this site on a phone without a special app?

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What special app ?

My Galaxy S II can read it fine, thank you, and I haven't downloaded any app to do so.

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Try the mobile site: http://m.theregister.co.uk/

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Re: re: Is there an El Reg app?

@ sabroni

Don't worry. Some of us get sarcasm

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@Doc Spock

If your post was a reply to sabroni, then I think their post was sarcastic. I mean; the Reg site is just a website, and modern phones should all render it fine (The Galaxy note does fine). I have only ever had to use the mobile version, and that was on a desktop and because of a javascript bug in IE.

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"Universally agreed to be shite, and in desperate need of a complete rewrite"

Well, a website app can only ever be as good as the content...

(Sorry, Vulture hacks, but that one was just too good to pass up. IGMC)

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Re: @Doc Spock

It was more of a reply to Chris N, as well as anyone reading the comments who may not be aware of the mobile site.

I agree that the regular site should be (and is) viewable on modern smartphones, but I happen to prefer the less cluttered look of the mobile website on my phone, and it also avoids having to do the zoom-n-scroll dance to read each story headline (my eyesight is not what it used to be, and my phone does not have a comically-oversized screen).

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Anonymous Coward

If Samsung sold more Androids than Apple did iPhones

Then Android must be killing iOS in total devices, when you add all the HTC's, Xperias, Xooms, Tabs, Transformers and the like into the mix.

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Re: If Samsung sold more Androids than Apple did iPhones

Indeed. There's some referenced sales figures at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone#Historical_sales_figures - interesting to see how Android has left everything else, IOS included, behind in the dust. Also interesting to see how Symbian dominated before that, not Apple. Sad that the picture we've got from mainstream media reporting of the last 5 years has been so biased, and not at all representative of the actual true picture.

And still I see all these adverts for websites/services going only "Get this on your IPhone" - barely 20% of the market, outsold over 2 to 1 by Android, and with probably still a smaller installed userbase than Symbian.

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Re: If Samsung sold more Androids than Apple did iPhones

I think the point is that Apple is more profitable per phone sold, and is more visible in the US market. Apple users tend to have a larger disposable income and so it is easier to flog them subscriptions. Android users are more careful. webOS users, all 8 of us in Europe, have to write their own applications and are likely to come asking for money. Blackberry users mostly have to have what IT allows.

Besides, as a recovering Guardian reader every time I see them trying to flog reading the G on an iPad, I feel ever so slightly smug.

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Hot Cakes

Well everyone I know has got the III not one person has gone for the 4s since the Samsung release.....that includes Apple fans, Android nuts (Sorry I do not know anyone that has a Windows phone any more). Plus those that "want" a new phone are all looking at the III ..... iPhone 5...mmm....lets face it many people have had the apple iPhone fix and fancy a change.....some of course will stay with Apple....the churn is churning away from Apple a little.

I miss my Windows smart phone from years ago.....way ahead of its time....you could have apps on it years before Apple invented them.

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