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The Chinese government has announced a tough four month crackdown targeting online piracy in the country, just as European netizens celebrate their Parliament’s rejection of the controversial ACTA treaty. A typically lengthy statement indicated four government departments would be involved in the action plan – the National …

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Anonymous Coward

I'm not surprised, in Communist China Capitalism comes first, if its harming legitimate business, or in this case, the pirated DVD business (since pirated DVD's are so cheap and in every AV shop, why waste hours downloading when you can nip out and have a DVD in 5 minutes), then they will take steps to protect it....

But the good thing is they are targeting sites & posters NOT the average downloader!

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Anonymous Coward

Agreed. I'm anti/pro piracy. It really depends.

Personally since netflix / lovefilm I don't really download anything anymore, because I finally have a cheap alternative. Why spend £18 on a new DVD I will only watch once, maybe twice when I can pay £5 and rent a couple DVDs a month?

The only problem now though is software for me, most software I use is free, paint.net, libreoffice etc, but there are still people selling very simple applications and charging £15 for it. It's nowhere near as bad now as it used to be a few years back, and I think all these new business practices will help push things along in the right direction. But punishing people for downloading a film illegally isn't the right direction.

The vast majority of people who DL things have no intention of ever buying them, if they couldn't get it for free then they simply wouldn't get it. Heck if I couldn't find a copy of office online for free (before openoffice) I'd have just used notepad. Likewise I wouldn't have bought a CD just because I couldn't DL it, and I wouldn't have bought a DVD if I couldn't find it online.

Now though with services like Deezer or Netflix I can actually watch things online for a price I think is very damn reasonable. Hell I'd honestly say I think they're undercharging a little. . If more areas of the music industry realised this then maybe the pirate scene wouldn't be quite as far reaching. If they want to make more profit off of their latest blockbuster film, put it on netflix or lovefilm sooner.

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Anonymous Coward

Come on

Be realistic, they will just get rid of those that fail to pay the bribes on time.

The rest can be considered state sponsored.

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Anonymous Coward

Real-Fake

Online only? I started to worry I might not be able to get fake shoes, fake wristwatches, fake clothes up and incl fake military parts.

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Re: Real-Fake

When I saw the title "Real-Fake", I was reminded of the markets in Hong Kong, where I used to live.

There was a price difference between a "Genuine Fake", targetted at rich gwailos, and HK-Chinese, and bargain-barrel fakes, mostly aimed at mainland Chinese immigrants. In the latter category you saw a lot of Tommy Hifliger, Quiksliver, etc, but I think my favourite remains the "Bolux" watch...

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Meh

The Capitalist Party

The important thing to notice is that China is a one party state. This party is no longer Communist, it is Capitalist, in the rawest sense. Just as during (the more catastrophic) collapse of the U.S.S.R. those in key positions within the party have made a killing, and now they intend not only to hang onto it, but to multiply it.

It should not be in the least surprising when China starts passing the harshest "IP" laws in the world, as monopolising the rights upon ideas is not just a part of censorship, it's part of the system of self-enrichment and social domination a single party state relies upon. It is a continuum.

No doubt this is why elReg is so keen on harsh IP laws, being a well behaved Tory leaning rag.

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Devil

Re: The Capitalist Party

I was going to upvote you until I saw you dissing the Reg in the last line.

While Andrew Orlowski apparently has a Stockholm Syndrome attachment to big media, the rest of the Reg strikes a fairly even note on IP law.

Your comments on China are spot-on, though. In Russia now there is a merging of state and business, with the police just another tool used to shut down opposing business (and jail the owners). Likewise in China - although the top of US government is wealthy (the top 660 members are collectively worth $7.5billion) the top of the Chinese government is *ludicrously* wealthy (the top 70 members are worth $89.8 billion - ie 100 times as wealthy per person). And the US has been capitalist for two centuries, while China has been capitalist for two decades.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: The Capitalist Party

I wouldn't say they were capitalist, capitalism being based around free and open trade creating various power bases in capital or mecantilism with national and regional centres of trade but both rely on lots of participants competing with each other. China is a lot more like the national socialism of Germany in the 30s. A planned economy with approved corporate ventures where there's little chance for mid sized enterprise and new ventures while all the money moving towards a few specific people.

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Re: The Capitalist Party

"it is Capitalist, in the rawest sense"

Hardly - government interference in business and the market in China is collossal. A Chinese businessman earlier this year was sentenced to jail merely for purchasing information on his business rivals (publically available information that another had collated to sell). Even the land-registry has become a closed book making it hard to find out who owns what property unless you happen to have the right connections in the government. How is that "Capitalist", unless you are one of these people who consider Capitalism a synonym for Corruption.

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Trollface

China acting tough on online piracy?

BWA HA HA HA HA HA… Mpff… Heh heh heh…

Oh wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder: BWAAAA HAA HAA…

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FAIL

Get the noodles out, China goes to war

China's 'crackdowns' are pure theatre.

I've been there during one of their feature events and whilst bulldozers, made on Japan, rolled up and down on a pile of CD-DVD look-alikes, I could still go in to the electronic market in downtown GuangZhou and select my choice of pirated goods without a hassle.

If the Chinese really wanted to crack down, they are more than capable of it,, but their heart isn't in copyright protection.

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Anonymous Coward

What piracy tho

Piracy of all things online regardless of who is the copyright owner, or just piracy of Chinese media/software?

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Seeing as how it is pretty much assumed that ANY IP that is touched by a Chinese company will get copied and sent to 'the party' (and by this I mean blueprints of anything you take for manufacture etc., as well as movies), this just mings of hypocrisy

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Anonymous Coward

shanzhai

shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai shanzhai.... have i said it enough yet.

When China stops copying everything and anything then i might take them seriously but it is most laughable when this is a term engrained in their culture and doesn't even mean copying but has a whole historic background relating to ... well google it yourself.

Any of el reg's readers in good ole .cn want a VPN, give me shout ... anon for obvious reasons, and thats a joke, i cant give you a VPN, even if you can read this.

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