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Facebook has admitted its mobile app altered phones' contacts books to use @facebook.com addresses. The hijack stems from a flaw in the website's design and the decision to provide every user with an @facebook.com handle that forwards to their Facebook message inbox. These addresses are now shown on the site's Timeline to …

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Massive fail.....

Hey Mark, ever heard about testing software before rolling it out to users ?

what a bunch idiots, they must use the same programmers as RBS..........

Luckily my HTC ONe S came without the ap and I could disable any Facebook bit dead easy in the aps section.......

That and Twatter never live on any device I own and never will.

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Mushroom

This was no

This was no mistake, this was too big to be a mistake.

This was a 'lets wait and see' strategy, see how the plebs take it.

There's a lot of this going on, remember Google and their data collection service, or Apples harvester do data.

Invariably if or when they are caught out they cry ' it must be a bug '

There's no excuses for this.

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Ignorance

Of the Law is not a defence, a bug in the machine is not a defence, they knew, we know they knew, they know that we knew, we knew what they know that they say they didn't know.

In simple terms, they knew, we found out, now they claim they didn't know something that was obviously apparent that they knew. Now we know that they will have to find a scapegoat, some underachieving junior programmer that they know, to blame because now we know, still we know this so it is no surprise but they claim now we know we have out it right.

Until the next time again again again again again........

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Re: This was no

Judging from how buggy their iPhone app is (e.g. tap comments, get upcoming events), it wouldn't surprise me if it was just another bug in their cr-app.

On the other hand, with their track record...

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Re: Massive fail.....

When I met some FB people at a recruitment event, they boasted about how "changes you make today could be being used by millions of people tomorrow".

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Re: Massive fail.....

Oh a Face Book recruitment event?

Uggghhhhh How Tragic.

"they boasted about how "changes you make today could be being used by millions of people tomorrow" - oh like all of your personal information....

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WTF?

yeah yeah, it was a bug...

sure it was.....who wants to bet real money that it wasn't a bug, but hoped that nobody would notice, or care and continue as they did before unaware, or uncaring about the consequences.

now the damage is done, it can't be reversed, so those people might just think "oh well, nevermind" and use the facebook mail system regardless, because what choice do they have? reinsert emails which they probably forgot about?

yeah yeah, bug, I'm sure it was...

thats why I turned off facebook sync...and why I hope you all did it too!!

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Re: yeah yeah, it was a bug...

Of course it was a bug, and it's just really, ummm, unfortunate that the same bug managed to manifest on both Android and iOS.

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Re: yeah yeah, it was a bug...

And WP7.

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WTF?

Re: yeah yeah, it was a bug...

It's not a bug, it's a feature... bitches.

It's like during the early days of the Google toolbar, when a toolbar update set Google as the default search provider and deleted other search providers from browser search. OOPS! it was a bug.

Why is it these bugs always work in the vendor's favor and never against, hmmm?

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@.thalamus

No. There is no bug in WP7 from Farcebook. The bug is WP7 sorry to inform you. :)

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Re: yeah yeah, it was a bug...

Better still. Turn off Facebook period!

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Unhappy

Re: Turn off Facebook period!

You can't on a lot of android phones, unless you root and install an alternative build....

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Re: yeah yeah, it was a bug...

No-one cares about Windows phones though

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Re: yeah yeah, it was a bug...

>Better still. Turn off Facebook period!

"Facebook period"? Is that part of the timeline?

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But you can...

You can remove the Facebook app's login info, and set it never to update, and use Google+ instead.

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Re: yeah yeah, it was a bug...

"And WP7."

I'm pretty sure it didn't occur on WP7 devices. Due to the way WP7 integrates and manages contacts and Facebook integration, I'm about 70% sure that FB couldn't ovewrwrite your contacts in this way.

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Re: But you can...

Yeah coz google+ isn't just as bad at datarape????

"A bug in the Facebook contacts API"

Facebook corrupts all your information without asking and alters it to suit facebook.

Bug - my ar5e

I'll use neither and be happy in ignorrance. (god bless ICS for the disable apps feature.)

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use Google+ instead

The perfect social network for people with no friends, I can see why it's popular amongst IT geeks.

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@h4rm0ny

Nobody uses the WP7 facebook app anyway. There's simply no need to since the OS handles all that nonsense.

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Re: @h4rm0ny

"Nobody uses the WP7 facebook app anyway. There's simply no need to since the OS handles all that nonsense."

Sorry - that's what I was talking about. I had actually forgotten there was a Facebook App for WP7 for exactly the reason you gave - anyone using Facebook on WP7 just uses the provided integration in the People Hub. I don't see why anyone would need to use the App either.

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"Its a bug"

Well that's a novel excuse for breaking the law (specifically section 3 of the Computer Misuse Act - unless they say that allowing synchronisation is giving permission to alter data on the phone without any checking.

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Re: "Its a bug"

Call me old fashioned, but I rather thought the idea of synchronisation software was, in fact, to change data on the destination device to match that from the source. Having to get confirmation from the user for every change about to be made kind of defeats the purpose. Add to this the fact that such synchronisation was happening prior to this update to @facebook addresses without cries of "breaking the law, breaking the law" and your comment looks a little OTT.

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Re: "Its a bug"

Errm, nobody "gave" permission to have their email addresses changed in the first place (on FaceFsck) and so by conclusion they didn't give permission to have those email addresses of contacts changed on some sync. But then you're obviously so embarrassed by your statement that you had to make it anonymous. Says it all.

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Re: "Its a bug"

Erm, except OP's post was about the *synchronisation* of the changed data breaking the law, not the FB email address change per se. I agree that FB changing email addresses to be their version of an email address was a stupid move on their part, but since that wasn't what OP or I was posting about I guess I should ask you: do you really think that synchronisation software synchronising changes from source to destination is a bug and/or should be subject to the Computer Misuse Act because a third party changed some data?

Oh and posting AC doesn't mean I have anything to hide, nor does it invalidate my point - the fact that you seem to think that it does "says it all". I'm also guessing that your name in real life isn't "persistability". Pot, meet kettle.

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Epic fail

Binned the app again, probably for the last time.

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FAIL

No surprise there - the Facebook app is an AWFUL app. Fortunately I don't ever use stupid sync features for contacts cos this is one reason why.

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that didn't matter, i didn't have it switched on on my phone either, but it still showed the facebook emails in preference to the others.

fortunately, it didn't sync those over the cloud to my other devices, so the confusion is isolated to just my phone

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All your emails belong to me.

Bitch.

That is all.

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FAIL

User feedback is always welcome in regard to Facebook new features at recyclebin@facebook.com

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Facebook = Slippery and Slimy

Even though I use it, primarily because everyone in my (non-work) universe uses it, I haven't trusted Facebook for a very long time.

After about the third or fourth round of egregious behaviour I went through my profile and stripped out every bit of personal detail. Sure, Facebook almost always backs down when caught red handed, but that's not good enough.

Still, even by Facebook standards this is way, way over the line. Messing with data on my phone is a serious matter, and enough to remove Facebook entirely from that part of my on-line life.

Sigh, If there were more than ten people I know on either G+ or Diaspora I might even change.

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Bug... hmmmm

So, the bug is: that there happens to be some code in there, accidentally one must assume, that is able to modify your contacts, specifically by doing a search and replace of email addresses. Erm, sorry.. how did code like that get in there by accident? Or if we assume the code is there on purpose but this is a bug in that code, then for what purpose is that code in there in the first place? Why do you want to mess with my contacts?

Or are you just spouting bollocks Mr Zuckerberg?

See, they know that it'll take a lot to make people stop using Facebook, since for many of us it has become something we like and use a lot, despite our better judgement. So they feel they can just do what they like and we'll put up with it. And apparently they can all sleep at night and live with the fact that they're devious, lying, morally repugnant pieces of slime.

I'm going now to post that on my wall.

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Well

WTF is Facebook? I'm too busy with my friends to bother.

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I wonder how many laws they've broken.

Without any thinking at all on the subject, I can fail to see how this doesn't break the interception of communications acts of all european union countries, the UK, and the US.

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Lies.

Intentional act from Zuckerberg and his cadre, much like Google and their insidious creeping and stealing data without consent Facebook are doing the same, retreating behind the same lies.

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Problem is, I'll only use standalone apps for Facebook now after lots of other websites started to "borrow" the saved FB login credentials from my browser to show me Like buttons and things across those non-Facebook sites. Far too creepy!

Hoping when Apple add FB to iOS6 they leave the option to still use FB when I explicitly want to, but not let it anywhere near my contacts or emails!

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No Thanks

I'm not letting FaceBroke anywhere near my phone.

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FAIL

Facebook ...

the poster boy for incompetence and lying,

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The bug

was that people noticed what they had done.

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Re: The bug

"The bug // was that people noticed what they had done."

"Noticing" is a feature which will be deprecated and removed in the next release, delivering an improved user experience. Yes, they have our interests at heart.

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**COUGH**!

...my arse. At least with Apple, you know you're gonna get f****d if you get involved with them. With Facebook and Google, they try to slip you one when you're not looking and then go "oops, we didn't realise we tadgered you," please accept our word it won't happen again.

These are the sort of excuses that come out in an E.R when a bloke presents himself with a lightbulb up him or a hoover attached to his junk. Oops, I slipped and....

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My default never changed...

What doesn't make sense to me is my default email address on facebook has never changed from my original gmail account.

I keep hearing stories of how people have been switched over to using the facebook one by default, I login, check mine, nope, still gmail.

Are these people doing something special to have fb screwing with their account settings? Clicking "ok change my account!" on a popup that appears or something?

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Re: My default never changed...

Are you completely dumb and didn't read the stories from today and yesterday?

It doesn't mess with your login settings, it fecks your contacts you pleb.

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The problem of lost emails was not one of "not having enough friends".

It was your friends not listing their real email address on Facebook for security reasons, so Facebook didn't recognise the 'from' address.

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intentional data slurp

It was always the plan to route all you mail through FB, the bug is just a lame excuse.

Personally this is a million times worse than Google street view slurp (which only affected unsecured hot spots, and only if they were sending data at that exact moment, and only if it wasn't over https)

This is blatant data harvesting of everything you sent and received.

I hope it gets appropriate press coverage and similar attention from the EU and other privacy police.

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Pint

Good thing I've never used Facebook then..

Nothing to change my mind here..

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Can someone please, please tell me why these folks can't just stop poking each other in the eye?

Oh, lawyers' fees. My bad.

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"assuming the affected users still have the Facebook app installed"

One thing that really galls me is that the Facebook app is part of the crapware that you can't remove from most smartphones without rooting them- for example, the most you can do on Android is roll it back to the version of the app that shipped.

I would love to be able to remove most of the spurious cruft that Samsung, HTC et all foist on us- Samsung even has its own extra app store- surely you could reinstall from there, if you had a brainfart and decided you couldn't live without Flipbook or some other shit?

</rant>, sorry, I will go and sit quietly now..

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Holmes

So, facebook want their users ...

to mail everyone via "@facebook.com".

And nobody can see why ?

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Bug my arse

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