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Intel is petitioning the EU's General Court to overthrow the massive fine imposed upon it by the European Commission back in 2009, saying that the case against it was fatally flawed from the get-go. "The quality of evidence relied on by the Commission is profoundly inadequate," Reuters reports Intel lawyer Nicholas Green telling …

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They're trying to squeeze ARM out of the mobile market now as well. Using similar tactics no doubt.

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What a pity...

...that criminals like Intel are not properly punished for their chronic violations of law. Treble damages should apply here based on Intel's annual revenues. In addition Paul Otellini and the entire first level of Intel management should all do five years prison time.

Intel, Microsucks and many other big fish have learned that it's extremely profitable to violate law, eliminate competition and gain market monoploies via crime.

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OMG they gave people DISCOUNTS!!!!

The nasty, evil, BASTARDS. To prison with them! No! Prison is to easy! The Noose!

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Re: OMG they gave people DISCOUNTS!!!!

Discounting is fine. Making the discount conditional on not buying the competitor's product is not.

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Re: OMG they gave people DISCOUNTS!!!!

What they did was give discounts if you didn't buy the competition and in some cases gave you higher prices if you did buy the competition, or restricted your supply.

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Irrespective of whether or not

chipzilla is guilty, the laywers will be rubbing their hands with glee at this...

They will be the only real winners...

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Re: Irrespective of whether or not

At a billion euros, the EU Commission should get a few nice lunches out of it too.

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Re: Irrespective of whether or not

What do you mean by "if they are guilty"?

Surely the Dennis the Menace response of: "we didn't do it, nobody saw us do it, you can't prove a thing" (and: "that fine is way too big for the crime that crime, even if we had done it, which you don't have enough evidence to prove") makes it all too clear that they have no respect for the court, which should be worth a small fine in its own right, or better still a night in jail to cool off before having to come back and apologise to the court.

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Shakedown by the Euro Mafia....

Is what it is.

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Finally

The EU might get the cash injection it needs not to fall on its ass and die within the next year or so... Unless of course Intel manage to drag the court out another decade or so, in which case by the time they pay the fine the 1.34bn euros will probably only be worth a few hundered million USD

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They should be charged interest rate on the fine at Barclays' LIBOR for each day in arear.

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Madness...

Whether or not Intel are truely guilty or not (though they appear to be), the fact that this has dragged on for so long is nuts.

Is 3 years really a reasonable amount of time to allow for a guilty party to appeal?

And for Intel to claim that "There has been absolutely zero harm to consumers" is rediculous. Trying to buy a non-white box PC with an AMD processor has always been infuriatingly difficult, and competition has suffered as a result.

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It does not really matter what happens

We have already lost. When AMD filed the original complaints it really stood a chance in the market. Now it has been downsized and has lost critical assets (which by the way are based on european soil). And above all much of its competetiveness. Which I think it will never regain - if Intel could, AMD now would be history.

On the other hand, this is taking way too long. If Intel has been saving since the original case began (that means around 2000 or 2003) then this seemingly large fine would result in about or less than 100 million per year. For a company that makes around 50 billion per year, it is pocket change. On the other hand, the fine is loosing its value day by day and EU is spending a lot of money on these trials, investigations etc etc.

So in the end, the fine accomplishes nothing. (or at least much much less than what it is supposed to mean).

This is a sorry state of things.

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Pah!

The fines should be based on a percentage of turnover - that'll learn 'em!

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WTF?

Rat-faced, swine-snouted..

Pigs. They are pigs. I'm an Intel fan and consumer and do want them to pay their frakkin fine. There is proof from OEMs that Intel used their conditional discount to kill AMD.

I hope the judge laughs and doubles the fine.

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Re: Rat-faced, swine-snouted..

Indeed, lets remember what AMD brought us:

1. First proper dual core design, Intel just slapped two CPUs in one package

2. 64-Bit x86 instruction set. Intel just copied it and made a few very minor changes.

Makes you wonder if Intel would have had us all running Itanium? I've no idea what their roadmap for 64-Bit would have been otherwise.

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The thing is when AMD was winning they didn't not gain anywhere near as much cash as they should have done (Due to Intel's monopolistic practices) which basically made it so it is very unlikely that Intel will have any competition ever again now.

This fine is far too low.

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Precisely

Intel eliminated any competition they had thru illegal means such as blackmail, intimidation, etc. and should be held accountable for the losses to AMD and consumers who were bilked out of hundreds of billions of dollars in over-charges for Intel products.

There is no reason why Intel should not be fined $500 Billion (that's with a "B") for the damages. Without this type of punishment for decades of crime, Intel and other corrupt companies will continue to violate law for really, really good profits while illegally establishing a market mmonopoly.

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Choices

Intel should either pay the fine or have their sales banned until the fine is payed. Realistically, they should have had their product sales restricted for the same amount of time that they were found guilty of anti-competitive behavior.

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Re: Choices

Agreed that Intel should have had all sales banned in all countries for the 20+ years they violated anti-trust laws to obtain an illegally gotten monopoly.

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INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!

INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL

I invented a CPU cooler - 3 times better than best - better than water. Intel have major CPU cooling problems - "Intel's microprocessors were generating so much heat that they were melting" (iht.com) - try to talk to them - they send my communications to my competitor & will not talk to me.

Winners of major 'Corporate Social Responsibility' awardS!!!

Huh!!!!

When did RICO get repealed?"

INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!

BTW, I have the evidence - my competitor gave it to me.

BBTW, I am prepared to apologise to Intel if;

• They can show that the actions were those of a single individual within the company, but acting outside corporate policy, and:

• They gain redress on my behalf.

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No one should trust InHell

If there is any means to violate law for profit, the unscrupulous will use it.

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