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Google has been shouting the praises of its newly patched Chrome on the second day of its I/O developer conference, and is claiming that Chrome is undoubtedly the world's most popular browser. "According to all the metrics and everything we see out there, Chrome most is the most popular browser," said Sundar Pichai, VP of Chrome …

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Anonymous Coward

Roger?

The rebuttal contains 25 instances of the name 'Roger'. That is 25 more than I ever want to see on one page.

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Wish I

Could get it to work without having to use the google login.

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Re: Roger?

Hi!

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Re: Roger?

What makes it funnier is that the claims & counter claims are really just Willy waving. Roger.

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Re: Wish I

Yup, the login screen kills it for me ............

You can set home pages and do whatever you want that damned page comes back to haunt you.

IE9 is definately on the top of my list for the moment. I can't even remember that last time I fired up FF.

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IE9 is good?

Hard to tell, as I can't get it to install on any of my machines. I've tried it on recent Fedora and Ubuntu distributions, my NetBSD server, several versions of OSX, my iPad and Asus Transformer, and even an XP VM, and all it'll say is "you need to be running Windows Vista or Windows 7".

But seriously, why should I even bother to look at a software application that runs on such a limited range of operating systems?

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Carling claims to be

probably the best lager in the world, but I don't drink it. So is it?

Statistical manipulation as the ends justify the means.

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Roger Roger

Give me the vector, Victor.

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Re: IE9 is good?

"But seriously, why should I even bother to look at a software application that runs on such a limited range of operating systems?"

You don't. You install Opera. IE9 is very good (imo), but no-one has ever claimed that it runs under a Linux DE or told you that you should try to. So it's rather straw-mannish of you to try and act disgusted that it doesn't.

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Re: Roger Roger

We've got the clearance, Clarence.

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Strawman?

Apparently IE9 doesn't work on Macs or Microsoft's own older version of Windows either; so I would say that the Linux strawman is all yours. I agree, why should I be arsed to try a proprietary web browser that only works on a tiny fraction of the modern consumer operating systems out there, especially when there are such good cross-platform alternatives.

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Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent. 14% of people know that.

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I'd be lying if I said my men weren't committing crimes.

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Although I don't like them...

I think Google does have a point. I mean; at one time it looked as if all other major browsers (Firefox, Internet explorer) started to mimic the looks of Chrome. Firefox especially IMO. A move which I detested ever since it started because honestly; if I wanted to use Chrome then I'd download and use it.

IE9 is a bit different when it comes to looks (the tabs sit besides the address bar instead of above it) but its still quite trimmed down in comparison to IE8.

So with that in mind I think Google has a point.

As for me; I'm sticking to SeaMonkey for my every day browsing.

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Anonymous Coward

Yet another Google innovation made possible by the hard work of the open source developers and Apple (Apple took KHTML, fixed it up a bit and released it as WebKit which Chrome is based on).

Would be nice if Google actually created something from scratch.

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Would be nice if Google actually created something from scratch.

Oh? Why is that? They are taking good software packages and putting a high amount of polish on them. There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, you might even say that google is doing the OSS community a favor by the exposure.

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Yeah, damn Google, they should learn from their competitors- who'd never start a business based on software produced by dumpster diving other peoples' printouts... no... wait...

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"Would be nice if Google actually created something from scratch"

It would be a fucking miracle if Apple did!

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Would be nice if Google actually created something from scratch.

Well done for totally missing the point of open source - creating software so that people CAN create great software (free or commercial) with it.

If you want to demand people put back in "their fair share" to the community start your own "it's only fair" license to compete with GPL, MIT, Apache, et al. I'm sure you'll get plenty of MPs supporting you.

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Because you cant polish a turd, only roll it in glitter....

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Joke

Turd Polish

I think Mythbusters proved it can be done : HERE

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It is actually the most UNpopular browser

Because it installs itself surreptitiously and by default alongside other products, its actually the most *hated* of all browsers. And its also probable that most people who have it installed only have it because they don't know how to remove it.

And its from google, so it's probably stuffed with spyware.

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Re: It is actually the most UNpopular browser

I agree, all it takes is a parent to click on it by mistake then queue the usual "my internets different" support call... (note to fanboys "different" is not equal to better or worse) Like a lot of old people change (even if it is for the better) is bad. They had firefox installed years ago, know how to use it and are used to it now so find anything else "wrong" to use

Having set the pc to secure as possible, having an app that has virus like properties in not needing admin rights to install isnt a good example for a major company to do.

Still they didnt spot the difference between google and duckduckgo afterwards.....

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Re: It is actually the most UNpopular browser

I just went through the monthly update of software on my in-law's computer. The usual suspects; antivirus, antispyware, Flash, Acrobat, Air, Java, etc...

Lately it seems practically everything is packaged with Chrome preselected, and it's also advertised on Google's home page too. I'm not surprised it's shot up the charts recently.

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Re: It is actually the most UNpopular browser

If you're going to try to discount installs that aren't wanted or are there by default, Microsoft will have to assemble a crack team of statisticians/marketers to discredit you when their market share snaps in half.

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There's still China

In China it's still IE 71.76% vs Chrome 12.52% according to StatCounter.

StatCounter IS odd though, says Europe's top browser is Firefox? I'd really like to understand their methodology and sources a bit better.

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Re: There's still China

In continental Europe, and especially Germany, Firefox very much does hold sway. It's about 50 % for a large corporate site I know.

That said, SiteCounters' metrics are not reliable because they are very piecemeal. Aggregates coming from Google Analytics, Adobe or Webtrends or other large providers are likely to be more representative. The stats that I have access to have about a three-way split for Chrome (all versions), IE 8, IE 9 and Firefox (all versions) for the world. Chrome has gone up about 10 % in a year on those metrics.

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"Over 60 billion words are typed every day on Chrome browsers, he said, with over a terabyte of data saved every 24 hours."

And that, right there in a nutshell, is why I don't use Chrome. I'll browse without you looking over my shoulder, thanks.

Incidentally, now that you've reached the heady heights, can you slow down and fix some of your browser's glaring rendering bugs? You launched a campaign to replace the predominant, buggy browser, and you're replacing it with another buggy browser, except this one spies on you.

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Big Brother

And why did they go to the extra effort of rounding the user count to 310 million people?

I'm sure they could have copied and pasted the exact figure.

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Long life statcounter ! (and opensource browsers! too)

Who is still using IE ??

@harry, UNpopular browser?? And what do you think about IE is still so popular?? eat that! yeah, it came preinstalled. the worst unpopular !

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"Who is still using IE ??"

Well, if you're using IE9, why not? I'm just gonna come out and say it - there is nothing wrong with IE9. It's not as bleeding-edge advanced as other browsers, sure, but there's also not really anything inherently wrong with what it does. It's quick, seems stable when I've used it, supports the current standards far far better than older versions - what exactly is wrong with it, other than it not being fashionable these days? (Seriously, if you follow *trends* for a feckin' web browser, you need to re-assess your entire life.)

Wanna know how many rendering bugs I've had to fix in IE9 recently, or indeed ever? None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Doughnut.

Wanna know how many I've had to work around in Chrome in the past fortnight? Because it's not zero.

Personally, I'm a shirt-wearing Mozilla man, but I'm no zealot.

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but there is one thing wrong with IE9. It has no spell checker. That, for me, is why it gets no use at all outside the one application at work that still mandates it.

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You base your browser requirements solely on whether it corrects your spelling or not?

Did they not teach you how to read and write at school?

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Agreed IE9 is pretty slick and the integration with W7 is something cool too - seeing tabs as separate previews on the start-bar for instance.

Regarding spell-checking... you can get spell-checking for IE9. I've got it installed and it's identical to how FF/Chrome do it.

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>yeah, it came preinstalled. the worst unpopular !

so its preinstalled on mac's and millions if ipads ands androids, and linux too is it. ;-)

true its presinalled on windows, on which the majority of all devices still use,

but Google install chrome be default when you install almost any of their other products, you have opt-out not opt-in, so many people end up with Chrom being 'preinstalled' along side the other app too

If MS were to try that trick or to reset the deafult thered be hell too pay.

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Re: >yeah, it came preinstalled. the worst unpopular !

Wow, what an amazing case of selective memory. Microsoft reset the default for the system browser after _every_single_ online update for years!

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Google did something from scratch alright.

Google added their own poorly documented SPDY protocol in addition to HTTP, so that traffic to their own servers appear to be much faster than going to competing services or using alternative browsers.

Then, when Firefox tried implementing the same SPDY protocol to Google's servers, Google broke it and it's pages wouldn't work properly some of the time.

Last time I've seen something similar in IT people were up in arms about it and the company ended up in court. But when Google does it and everyone cheers them on.

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The sneaky buggers

It's called doing a Microsoft.

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Devil

Never confuse popularity with quality

Chrome is the Justin Beiber of browsers: pretty, young, heavily advertised, loved by the gullible but best avoided at all costs.

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Re: Never confuse popularity with quality

Hey, I may be an older curmudgeon, but I happen to like some Justin Bieber songs.

Wait, did I just SAY that? No!!!!!!!!!!! (insert symbol of man banging head against wall)

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"with over a terabyte of data saved every 24 hours"

Being the reason it will never come anywhere near any of my devices..

Opera for me thanks, who gives a fk how many people use it. Its how it works that counts.

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Does "how it works" matter?

. . . who gives a fk how many people use it. Its how it works that counts.

I couldn't agree more. It's really unfortunate that we live in a society where even (so called) technical people believe that a product's worth is directly proportional to the number of users.

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Deja Vu

If I was google, I would try really hard not to remind their domination to public.

Just like Internet explorer, Mac safari google chrome isn't really purely choice of users.

It doesn't come with os of course, it comes on world'sn dominant page.

There is no "get Firefox", "get ie" (as it is compliant now) or "get opera" there.

What is next? Brag about toolbar?

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That's great Google..

Now can we step on the brakes please? I've spent years battling a IE monopoly, not about to enjoy battling another one.

There are already too many Chrome Web Store "exclusives" for my taste, web pages to me were never meant to be packaged and locked to specific browsers.

Maybe I should blame the developers, but how can Google talk about the importance of the "open web" and then operate this crap. It must require a lot of counselling.

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Chrome on iOS - Really?

Sorry, but Apple's rules don't allow that. Whatever they release will be a Chrome/Safari abomination. It will be Safari under the covers, using Safari's ancient Webkit code and piss-poor JS engine. No V8 js for you... But will be running Chrome UI, sync and extensions on the outside.

Crucially you can't change the UA (because it's using Apples webkit browser control) so Apple "Chrome" users will be racking up as Safari hits on websites. & it will be as slow as Safari and render as flakey as safari.

If anyone REALLY believe they are getting Chrome, as in what's on desktops and Android, they will be sorely mistaken, they are just getting another Safari makeover skin.

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Re: Chrome on iOS - Really?

Isn't it already just a safari (webkit) rebrand? Perfect for ios.

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Re: Chrome on iOS - Really?

just another example of Apple controlling their market and stifling competition,

doublless if Chrome was made available they would then try to sue google for having sqarish shaped broswer windows ;-)

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Lets get chrome for Android first?

They should have faced the reality that 80% of their market runs Android 2.3- and ship some amazingly optimized chrome that will beat iphone web in every single device.

Of course, their primary interest isn't software so it didn't happen.

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