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Over the weekend Mark Zuckerberg's recently floated company began quietly displaying @Facebook email addresses on all of its users' Timelines. The move immediately sparked anger from Facebookers, who complained that their third party email account names – such as Gmail or Hotmail – had been unceremoniously replaced without their …

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All your email are belong to us

Etc etc.

Gettin me coat.

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Re: All your email are belong to us

Careful, you might find they've taken your coat too.

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I have a FaceBook email address, but I've no idea what it is or how I access it. And I don't want my email address shown on FB anyway.

I am a bit surprised FB are even promoting email, rather than DM/PM functionality.

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Ahh, but that's the point. The FB email address goes to FB Messages so it is keeping you on their site as much as possible. Many FB changes are mildly irritating, this one is extremely annoying. I mean it's not like it's easy to guess for spammers to use now is it? Oh, wait...

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Meh

Also, I'm sure FB would be very happy to allow you to export all your contacts from FB under the form of <contact>@facebook.com . It allows external apps / sites to pull some info from it, but ultimately it's encouraging the use of @facebook.com emails and driving more traffic to it's own site.

It also makes sense to integrate Facebook messages with email, phones have been doing this for ages (also with Twitter feeds, sms etc). It makes sense that a message is a message irrespective of delivery mechanism, and I'm sure the user can always sort them out if they want to.

So, yeah, not impressed by FB being pushy and secretive about this, but no surprise either, and frankly I think the majority of their users will welcome it

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And no mention in the article of how to change it back (if you wanted to for whatever reason).

In the email settings there's an option to hide from timeline, which has been set on all non fb email addresses, easy to change back if you're that way inclined.

Still, they shouldn't have blanket changed everyone's settings without notification anyway.

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Fixed it!

Thankfully, you can override this change by going in and hiding the facebook 'email address' and unhiding your proper email.

Not that that excuses it.

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Re: Fixed it!

I don't use Timeline

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Re: Fixed it!

I don't use Facebook.

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Re: Fixed it!

Facebook is evil.

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Re: Fixed it!

> I don't use Timeline

Nothing to do with Timeline or not. Non-timelined users are affected as much as anyone.

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Re: Fixed it!

Why in an article about Facebook is there always has to be someone who puts in the time and effort to tell the world he doesn't use Facebook rather than just not reading the supposedly irrelevant article. The same with Twitter/Windows/OSX/iPhone/iPad/Android/Blackberry/Phone 7/BBC/Sky/ITV/etc.

I mean, if I read news or reviews of a Ford Mondeo there isn't anyone who posts just to point out they don't drive one.

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Re: Fixed it!

And there's always someone who tells everyone that there's someone who doesn't use Facebook. If someone not using Facebook means nothing to you, then move along

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Re: Fixed it!

Why in an article about Facebook is there always has to be someone who puts in the time and effort to tell the world he doesn't use Facebook rather than just not reading the supposedly irrelevant article.

It's educational and they are leading by example.

Ten Points About Facebook

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Re: Fixed it!

I don't use evil.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Fixed it!

@nation of stupid

Schadenfreude.

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Opt in vs Opt out

Yet again Facebook demonstrates it doesn't understand the concept of 'Opt in'

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Opt in vs Opt out

You Opt-ed in when you joined signed over your s... I mean joined twitterbook+.

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Re: Opt in vs Opt out

On the contrary, they understand it very clearly indeed.

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Re: Opt in vs Opt out

Yet again Facebook demonstrates it doesn't understand the concept of 'Opt in'

Fixed it for you

Yet again Facebook demonstrates it doesn't give a flying fuck about the concept of 'Opt in'

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Yet another email address

So they have given me an email address, without telling me. So I will never see the email that tells me I have won $100000000 on a lottery that I didn't enter. Such is life.

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Re: Yet another email address

Or how to improve your sexual performance, enlarge your penis and god forbid, help you with all those PPI claims.

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Email address is worthless...

...without POP / IMAP access. Else it just becomes another recepticle for off-site spam.

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Re: Email address is worthless...

What makes you think that there isn't IMAP or POP access?

The point of the facebook email address is to tie you to their system and to capture more information about you from your emails. Just like Google does with gmail.

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Re: Email address is worthless...

In fact it is so worthless that I will be using it any where the spam harvesters can get at it. It will also be handy for all those sites that ask for email address, so much more convenient than setting up another snotmail or gmail address.

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Delivery?

So where does the @facebook.com address deliver to? I've found it: Messages

Now that I've disabled it, messages from anyone else get bounced with, "Based on the email preferences of the person you're trying to email, this message could not be delivered."

It's arrogance: Zuckerberk can't imagine that some people don't stay logged into facebook all the time, or might, in fact, go days without visiting.

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Re: Delivery?

On the contrary, he can imagine it all too well. Which is why things like this happen.

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Not just timeline - normal profiles too

Zuckerburg really doesn't want us communicating directly without CCing him!

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Re: Not just timeline - normal profiles too

Oooooh that's a good idea. After all we now have Mark Zuckerburg's email address. If he wants email we can give him lots and lots. Mwaaaa ha ha haaaa!!!

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Re: Not just timeline - normal profiles too

'Zuckerburg and Mossad/NSA really doesn't want us communicating directly without BCCing him/them!'

There, fixed that for you..

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Calling all lawyers

Isn't this illegal interception of e-mails? Didn't phorm do something like this and get crucified for it?

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@ Calling all lawyers

Whilst it looks very much like a Phorm-style MITM attack I imagine it's covered in the Ts and Cs ...

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Re: @ Calling all lawyers

"I imagine it's covered in the Ts and Cs"

Just because it is covered in the T&Cs does not mean that it is enforceable. The terms and conditions must be reasonable, or else they are invalid. For example, there is a clause buried in the T&C's that by signing up you are giving up your first born child and also your liver for a live liver transplant, this would be ruled as invalid due to being unreasonable or unfair. Should someone feel strongly enough about this issue, they could have it tested in court, even if it was in the T&Cs.

Sadly, in order to point out such a clause is unfair/unreasonable, you would need to call a lawyer, thereby enriching not just your lawyer, but the defending company's lawyer as well. Oh well, such is life.

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Google moaning that people now have to use @facebook addresses....

...hmmm last time I bothered to try out google plus I had to use a gmail adress to do it.

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I don't see a problem....

Personally I don't see what the fuss is about, could be considered a useful security feature as it allows Facebook friends to send you emails without publishing a 'real' email address.

My Facebook page is totally open to all as I only post information I want made public and don't trust Zuckerberg et al to keep anything private ;). So this just gives me another 'burn email' to use on sites I suspect of selling to spammers.

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Re: I don't see a problem....

It's not a problem until you need to get in touch with someone, their phone isn't working, they rarely check facebook and the email address they once had listed on facebook is gone without their knowledge, replaced with an email address they rarely check (i.e. facebook).

I thought this social networking thing was supposed to facilitate communication, not hinder it.

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Re: I don't see a problem....

Useful security feature? I think not. It's a massive spam magnet as it can be so easily found.

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Re: I don't see a problem....

i assume zuck and friends have got a fairly impressive spam filter built in, otherwise it will quickly become pointless as most people will turn it off.

If the spam filter works fine then I have absolutely no problem with this currently.

However, my concern would be that this is an attempt at a kind of walled garden and way of limiting ways facebook users communicate. Once they've removed other methods of communicating surely the next logical step is for them to try to begin to charge for messaging?

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Calm down dears....

...the emails sent to the address are turned into Facebook messages... you don't have to use the facebook email address you can use your current one. But it's just not displayed by default now.

In the grand scheme of things, this is a non-news item...made news by silly people moaning about changes to a social network you don't have to fund your usage of with cold hard cash.

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Re: Calm down dears....

I'm not sure that you get it. Suddenly everyone on FB has an easily guessed pseudo* email address. This makes it a huge spam magnet. FB have also in their infinite wisdom put this as the default display on all users profiles, even for those who have chosen not to show any email address at all, replacing anyone's real email address that was previously displayed. Now suddenly people may find that instead of getting emails sent to their real email they end up in FB messages instead. This is 5 star arrogance.

*pseudo because it delivers to FB Messages instead of an actual real email account.

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Re: Calm down dears....

5 star stupidity

FB will have to manage the 500gbyte of spam then - I'm not going near it.

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Re: Calm down dears....

I guess I'm still missing the point of the brouhaha.

You've had an @facebook.com address since you signed up for Facebook all those years ago. Any spammer worth a sh¡t (granted this qualifier would exclude 99% of them) should have already been spamming this email address. I haven't seen any spam in the Messages. None.

I just checked my email addresses in Facebook. The Facebook.com address is NOT my primary address, in contradiction to this report.

Sounds like more bitching just to be bitching.

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Mark Zuckerberg's wedding reception was going well. But, just as everyone had got used to the seating arrangement, he changed the layout for no apparent reason. ...

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Change Places!

Bit of a Futurama-esque activity, eh? http://fchangeplaces.ytmnd.com/

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I have an @facebook email address now so I'm a TARD awesome bigtime WTF !!111!!1AA!a1

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Failbook - We've gotta justify our $70bn Market Valuation

From what I can tell this is really all about money. Facebook's market value is currently just shy of $70bn and yet as I wrote around the time they have very little to support that valuation. As such they need to massively increase their revenues which means driving as much traffic into the site as possible.

My solution is to use an ad-blocker when I have to use facebook to stay in touch with my foreign relatives and to use it less otherwise. The funny thing being that my social life is no better or worse without facebook than with it, which only seems to prove that it's a load of rubbish anyway!

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Andriod

Amazing... thought Andriod was so popular... yet no-one seems to have noticed the FAR WORSE action facebook did. On an Andriod phone, they have replaced the primary email address of all your facebook friends with the new facebook email instead.

I'm glad I'm not on facebook, and I don't have a "smart" phone either, but my friend was absolutely livid over this.

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Re: Andriod

Or a lot of people like me don't let FB sync our phonelist and so we've not noticed this.

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Re: Andriod

Yup, you'd have to be a zucker for punishment to do that.

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