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All the details you've read about Google's Nexus 7 are true - if an allegedly leaked training document is genuine. The bumf landed on a desk at Gizmodo Australia and details a 7in tablet with a 1280 x 800 IPS LCD display and based around a 1.3GHz Nvidia Tegra 3 chip. There's 1GB of Ram and either 8GB or 16GB of on-board storage …

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You know that all looks okay to me

If it does hit that price point and battery life is respectable I will probably buy one.

(I'd still love to have an IR transmitter built in though).

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

Me too. If a 32gb model was in the list, I'd almost be looking for a pre-order button.

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

IR, how quaint. 1980's technology.

In my perfect world, everything would be using Bluetooth remotes like the PS3, as line of sight remote controls suck ass.

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

Chances are it will support HDMI out via an MHL adapter.

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

WIll that be the old MHL or Samsung's new incompatible S3 MHL?

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

WIll that be the old MHL or Samsung's new incompatible S3 MHL?

An Apple fanboi having a dig at connector incompatibilities? You owe me a new hypocrisy meter, mine just exploded.

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Really @Stike Vomit?

Apple connectors have remained compatible far more years than the competition... The iPod connector has been around for 11 years. That beats any mobile port out there, even Nokia and their pop-port connector.

You must have some seriously blind love for Samsung if you're trying to justify them breaking the barely 2 year old MHL standard with a dig against Apple.

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

Considering it is made by Asus, how exactly would Samsung be invovled? #FUDAlert

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

Sasmsung is a founding member of the MHL Consortium who write the specs.

Asus isn't even a member.

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No MHL here, move along

There won't be MHL of any kind on this one since this is a rebadge of Asus abandoned MeMo 370T.

Like that one it'll have a Mini-HDMI port

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

Looks good to me too. I have been waiting for the contract on my feature phone to end (next Dec) so I can get a smart phone (probably Samsung Galaxy S III). If Google or anyone else offers a reasonably priced and reasonably ok tablet before then, I'll keep the phone and get the tablet.

Leave small market for absurdly expensive ones to Apple.

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Re: Really @Stike Vomit?

11 years would make it as old as the original iPod, which only had a Firewire connector. The dock connector apparently didn't appear until the 3rd generation so it has only actually been around for 9 years. Still a pretty good run though, in consumer electronics terms.

Although I believe Apple have changed the spec a couple of times over that period, meaning that while the connector itself still fitted and it still worked with device and computer, other peripherals did stop working, or had functionality affected. Especially the 2008 change that removed the ability for newer devices to charge over a Firewire connection which resulted in quite a lot of expensive bits of 3rd party kit including integrated car kits no longer charging new iPods. OK, these are all 3rd party devices that stopped working, but they were working according to the pre-2008 spec and the problem wasn't limited to cheap unlicensed products.

Note: I don't consider myself with any particular loyalty. I have a Samsung Android phone, but an iPad and an iPod. I use both Macs and PCs. I go with what works best for me for the job in hand. Hence I'm not having a dig at Apple.

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Re: Really @Stike Vomit?

Ok, so 9 years and change (April 2003) instead of 11 years. It's been so long I couldn't remember the connector used on the first two generations. Still an industry leading amount of time, more so considering all the changes that were going on (e.g. Apple's move to Intel CPUs in 2006)

There was a change from Firewire to USB in 2005, but Apple kept supporting Firewire charging in the same connector for 3 more years until the 3rd gen iPod Touch. Again, it's extremely rare for any manufacturer to provide such a compatibility transition time for their connectors.

Changing these connectors is not something Apple has shown to take lightly, so my disagreement with Mr Vomit's statement still stands. It also doesn't invalid my shock at Samsung's seemingly random change of the MHL standard they themselves helped create.

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Re: Really @Stike Vomit?

Seriously? Samsung b0rked their mobile phone connectors already? Well that's news to me, but not a big surprise seeing they went proprietary on the dock-copy*cough*PDMI stuff.

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Re: Really @Stike Vomit?

What's Samsung got to do with any of this? I'll chalk that one up to misdirected nerdrage.

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Re: Really @Stike Vomit?

Surely the original point is this - SAMSUNG HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS STORY - Thank you.

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Sammy

I hope Samsung turns out to be the real manufacturer for this tablet, Asus has been nothing but problems lately.

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OK, these are all 3rd party devices that stopped working,

Except one. Apple's own Hi-Fi speaker Doc had 12 volt charging.

And Apple's FM Radio remote that I bought for my Nano (2G) didn't work with a touch.

But yes better then most cell phone makers up to now. Standard micro USB is better then any oddball cable no mater how stable.

But I expect this tablet to be free of strange plugs and cables that require pay-me chips to work.

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Re: Looks okay to me too

I was after a Kindle Fire because Apple's (love my iPad BTW) idea of an ebook reader is a bit too heavy and unwieldy for really comfortable book reading (love my Kindle Touch too). This device OTOH looks to have the size/weight advantage of the Kindle and ICS/Google Play to boot (and will of course run the Kindle App). It may just be perfect for a general purpose travel tablet.

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

same here at that price, especially if I can add a microsd!

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Re: You know that all looks okay to me

Yes I like the high quality plastic that it appears to be made of. Just oozes quality.

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<quote>"In my perfect world, everything would be using Bluetooth remotes like the PS3, as line of sight remote controls suck ass."</quote>

And bluetooth sucks serious battery.

Seriously, a proprietary wireless protocol such as those used for many wireless keywords would be a vast improvement over bluetooth for a simple remote. Those wireless keyboards can get months of additional usage from the same batteries as a BT keyboard. However simple IR is still the simplest and least battery draining solution for remote control.

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WOW, nice price, add a HDMI port and you can undercut the GoogleTV expensive box

Add HDMI and googleTV box becomes redundant and cheaper.

I look forward to this and regret not flogging my cheap scroll tablet a couple of months ago now.

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That can't be right

It's got rounded corners.

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Re: That can't be right

Really? That's still funny?

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yes

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Re: Really? That's still funny?

Yes, it is STILL funny!!!!

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Shame no 10in

to cover both bases, but otherwise great stuff.

And of course you get the full Android experience, not that cut down Amazon Fire rubish.

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I agree, at only 7" it'll be quickly trampled by the next generation of increasingly larger screened Android phones.

Let's see if Google didn't cut any corners - or added a few - to get to this price.

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Re: Shame no 10in

Just wait until the Autumn when the next 5 Nexus (Nexi?) get unveiled. I bet my cat that there will be a larger Nexus tablet in the mix.

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Part of the reason I have never bought a tablet is because they are too big at 10inch to be portable.

7 inch may just slip into a big pocket but a 10 inch thing needs a bag, so a decent, proper mobile [proper keyboard and multi tasking : cheap Nokia] plus a 7 incher would do my just fine.

This may finally stop my trying to get my Psion 5mx working with Windows AND Linux.

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Hope you mean Autumn 2013, otherwise you cat hasn't got long to live. Poor kitty.

Google won't release another tablet so soon, that would kill the sales for this one (which probably only goes on sale in Autumn anyway) and at this price they need all the sales they can get.

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Re: Shame no 10in

Can I just say - for the record that I agree with Barry

+1 to you sir.

As long as the price for the 7 incher is about £150 it's a goer.

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Re: Shame no 10in

Barry will send you some of his famous shitpeas as a token of his appreciation.

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Re: Shame no 10in

Shame not a foldup screen (like in the Sky advert). :-P

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Natty?

Is natty good or bad?

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Natty is reasonably complimentary. For example:

"Those are natty clothes, you hoopy frood!"

Coat? ITYM dressing gown.

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Good Lord

You'll have to slow down, I'm Australian; I only speak English!

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sd slot ?

I just want it to include an SD slot for extra storage. Forget the cloud when these are being used in our car by the kids.

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Re: sd slot ?

Google dropped SD cards in Nexus devices.

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WTF ? iPad mini.......

Lets see, ipad mini doesn't exist exceptin some hacks and rumour mungers minds.

The nexus has a different screen layout to an ipad

The nexus has a black TEXTURED back unlike any Apple iDevice

It will most likely have a micro SD card slot unlike the ipad

Pricing looks to be half what a mini ipad would be

So of cource you compare this to vapourware that will look nothing like it.....

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Price Conversion

"And, yes, prices start at a take-on-the-Amazon-Kindle-Fire $199 (£128), for the 8GB version. The 16GB Nexus 7 will cost $249 (£160)"

Woah there skippy. You mean $199 (£199) and $249 (£249), surely - no consumer electronics manufacturer uses the actual exchange rate.

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Re: Price Conversion

Nobody adds in the US sales tax or the UK VAT/import duty into the prices either.

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No rear facing camera

So this will be no good for the people who like to go around doing Dom Joly impressions by taking pictures/video on their iPads - don't think they realize quite how ridiculous they look!

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Re: No rear facing camera

A rear facing camera is very useful to take snaps of documents, scan codes or show things to someone over Skype. There's an awful lot of things a front facing camera is totally awkward to use for.

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Heh, I was at a zoo the other day and some numpty was there taking pictures with his iPad.

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Maybe he worked at the zoo? I really can't see why anyone would carry an iPad to a zoo.

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same reason i saw a gentleman in birmingham takig photo's of the town hall with one or even worse the person that got mugged whilst using one as an mp3 whilst jogging in NYC last year.

that reason? why use a perfectly capable device (mp3, camera etc) when i can show off my sparkly new toy

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Just saying there are perfectly valid reasons for those: gentleman could be updating the town hall records on his iPad, and how do you know the other person was actually listening to mp3s and not something else?

People are really too quick to criticise with a mere brief look.

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