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One week after Apple announced it was booting Google Maps from iOS and photographing the world with its own aerial fleet, a top US Senator has written to both companies expressing concern over their "military-grade spy planes." "Barbequing or sunbathing in your backyard shouldn't be a public event," said Senator Charles Schumer …

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4 inch resolution...

That would resolve my crucial component to 2 pixels! Wow!

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Re: 4 inch resolution...

I'd worry about jagged edges then..

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Re: 4 inch resolution...

Will see a lot more if me than a 4" resolution picture. While my wife and I sunbathe and swim in our pool, naked...

If the image appears on Google will this be considered porn, will google earth be adult only, can I sue if the exposé my m*****d?

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Re: 4 inch resolution...

> If the image appears on Google will this be considered porn, will google earth

If the kids go skinny dipping will GApple end up behind bars for distributing child porn. Lets face it, kids in some US states have been prosecuted for photographing themselves.

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Way too much information, but thanks. I'll let you know if I see it, but I guess you hear that a lot.

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My Dad already appears naked in his garden on Google Earth - but fortunately not a 4-inch resolution!

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Let's hope it's not a case of "Like Father, like Son"...

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Re: m*****d

Could you give another letter or two, I may be getting niave but I can't fill in the blanks. Second thoughts, I don't want to!

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@vic 4

It's a sad day when someone feels that they have to star out manhood.

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Duh! never thought of that, but then again would never have thought that would need a*******s

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"Detailed photographs could also provide criminals and terrorists with detailed views of sensitive utilities,"

What a fuckwit.

OK, let's keep everyone ignorant, let's cancel the biggest information revolution in the history of the human race...because a he thinks that information might help a "few" people do some bad things.

Let's get a sense of proportion guys, really.

Can we have a combined WTF/FAIL icon please?

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Quite right. What he's proposing is security through obscurity. Fail indeed.

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Ah, but Schumer isn't just another grandstanding politician looking for some reason to get his name in the papers. Schumer truly WOULD like to cancel the "biggest information revolution in the history of the human race". He tried to strangle the internet at birth by his opposition to putting DARPAnet into the public domain, and lately he was a leading proponent of crippling it by DNS blocking (PIPA). His crocodile tears about the privacy of the public contrast strangely with his efforts to outlaw BitCoin and Tor on the grounds that privacy online is harmful.

In other news. Schumer supported the repeal of the Glass–Steagall Act that permitted Wall Street to bring us to the depression we're in today, and also uses his influence on the Senate finance committees to block any attempt to tax unearned investment income at the same rate the rest of us have to pay. My fellow commentards will be unsurprised to learn that most of the money for his reelection campaign comes from the financial services industry. Truly, this Blue Dog serves his master faithfully.

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I wonder if the infrastructure stuff is meant to give governments an excuse to act in a way which maintains privacy.

As far as some of this stuff goes, figuring out what the images mean can be tricky. It isn't something anyone can do. And it would need close to military levels of organisation to use the info. We're not talking about something like London or Madrid, or even 9/11. Mumbai is the only thing that comes close.

As for illicit garden sheds, Google Earth is a bit variable, but many areas are covered with more detail than is typical of the WW2 photo-recce. Just don't trust the dates assigned to the images. Local knowledge here, but sometimes they have caught a summer event in progress and the photo-date is mid-winter.

Is this a scare story? Maybe it is. Do people realise how much information is going to get put out there? Maybe they will now.

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Well said!

"information might help a "few" people do some bad things."

Like books and word of mouth training, both of which we've had for some considerable number of years prior to the internet!

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"As far as some of this stuff goes, figuring out what the images mean can be tricky. It isn't something anyone can do. And it would need close to military levels of organisation to use the info."

Nah, it's easy. Just write a program that goes through Google maps and picks out any locations that have been blurred. Voila - instant target list.

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Quite it's Security 101 that that's a pointless endeavor.

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Shooting the spy plane

I always wondered what prevents a person from shooting the spy plane. Obtaining the data might be not so easy as it should be encrypted but still worth a try.

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If you really want the data, just fly you own damn plane; it will be far easier, and even cheaper.

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I am more interested in the shooting part, the data is a bonus (candy) after the main event.

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Indeed, ratfox.

See my post from a couple years ago: http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/442220

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Drones

tell that to the d bags ramping up the use of drones over the US

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Well some sites are already blurred on Google Maps for security reasons, so we can presume there are already protocols in place for security officials to request locations be blurred. Apple may be different.

Sound to me this senator just wanted his day in the limelight, now go back to taking bribes and pork barrel politics and leave the internet and the information revolution alone.

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Abdul: Ahmed, get your expendable hedge shears quickly,

Ahmed: It's about time you pruned that Apple tree.

Abdul: No Ahmed, now Google has told us where the power lines are we can cripple the capitalist dogs.

Ahmed: Sorry Abdul but bringing America to it's knees will have to wait until after the weekend, I lent Zarif my rubber gloves.

Abdul: Oh Allah, you can be so cruel.

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Building Inspectors

Here in the City of Brotherly Love L&I have photo flyovers of their own and then match the photos with tax registers. No need to obscure Google/Apple, it is already too late...

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The first would give

time to paint a giant "body part" on the roof or mow "Google Sucks" into the grass.

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Re: The first would give

Been done my friend, been done.

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Note to self: Mow the letters "F U" in the backyard.

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You might very well do that,

But I couldn't possibly comment.

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Note to marketing

Describing anything as military-grade makes you sound like a retard

Although mil-spec garibaldi "Biscuits, fruit-filled (pack of 6)" are still delicious

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'mil-spec garibaldi "Biscuits, fruit-filled (pack of 6)"'

AKA kevlar inserts.

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Isn't there a law somewhere the UK

Photographs are prohibited of people in what may reasonably considered as private places, like a back garden.

it must be because the back garden of Buckingham Palace is comfortably overlooked by Portland House and has been for about thirty years. No private long lens pictures have been published.

Here :

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Portland+House,+Bressenden+Place,+London,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&sll=51.512001,-0.11055&sspn=0.030821,0.084543&oq=Portland+House&t=h&hq=Portland+House,+Bressenden+Place,+London,+United+Kingdom&z=15

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Forget painted body parts..

.. I'd call this an excellent argument to put up some serious 3D street art, drawing extra roads, houses and the occasional human who needs to be blotted out. You'll know when the images have gone live when drivers show up, desperately trying to find he supermarket car parks you converted..

There is no law that says we have to provide Google with real data, so we might as well have some fun with some creative data pollution..

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Don't blur the people

Content aware fill them away, I want to see ghost towns not apparitions, and while you're at it, here's a fiver to 'shop the kids junk out of my garden, a tenner if you squeeze in a pool and some decking.

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Merkins will be wondering right now what you're doing displaying kids junk in your garden.

Insert generic won't something think of the somethings reference here.

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Re: Don't blur the people

No, Merkins won't. When I was a kid, all us kids on my street had junk strewn in the back garden, the front garden, and up and down the sidewalk ... Ah, the late 50s & early 60s. Was a completely different era. We didn't even lock the doors of houses back then ... If a kid was thirsty, he'd knock on a friends door. If there were no answer, he'd enter & get a drink of water. Sometimes I wonder where we went wrong.

Yes, I get your joke, but many words have many meanings, depending on context. In this context, it clearly means "toys & stuff".

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@ jake

Sometimes I wonder where we went wrong.

It's must have been the water meters.

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"intelligence that could aid terrorists"

Well, were the Senator to actually *use* some intelligence he'd probably realise that he might as well piss up a rope for all the good that it will do him.

His plan makes as much sense as all those Jobsworth "Community Support Officers" etc trying to stop tourists from taking pictures of London landmarks.

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Re: "intelligence that could aid terrorists"

I'm surprised he forgot to mention pedophiles. For instance if a five year old-girl-was sunbathing, she'd be about--let's see--10 innocent, vulnerable pixels high. I can hear them salivating now.

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But..

I like seeing my house on Google maps :(

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Bing have been doing this for years. What's the fuss?

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Someone might be caught sunbathing in their garden at a 4" resolution. Wow. Is anyone with access to the internet going to spend time ogling 600 pink pixels, when they can easily find high res smut elsewhere?

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Excuse me, sir. I have discovered some pictures of you sunbathing naked with a woman who is clearly not your wife. In order for me not to bring this matter to the attention of your wife, please enclose a wire transfer or cash money order for $US 10,000.00 (TEN THOUSAND US DOLLARS) with your response to this communication...

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Well you a rather crap investigator, one I do not have a wife, two I am not idiotic enough to get caught cheating with my girlfriend or future wives outside where any peeping tom/girl could catch us. Three I do not have 10K. An I consider Google and Apple catching cheats a public service, they should even help everyone out and provide proper facial recognition software, after all scouring Google Earth for one image which could be use for bribery or looking for the one photo of your husband cheating on you is time consuming. By the way that is bribery and I be straight to the police, I can live without my Girlfriend but can you live with a 10 year prison sentence.

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D'oh Jesus. Way to miss the fucking point!

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Bah!

I live in Schumer's state and I say "photograph away!"

The majestic Chateau Stevie is in all likelihood smaller than the resolution on both Apple and Google's spydrones. I live the Talking Heads dream. Blink, and you miss it. Step too aggressively through the front door and you are in my neighbour's back yard.

Besides, the rich gits can afford trees to screen their outdoor nude nakedness, or use parachute-sized patio umbrellas for modesty.

Seriously, Senator Chuck, get your priorities straight.

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Meh

Seen one sattellite photograph ...

... you've seen them all. Seriously. Think about it. What "knowledge" is being gained or organized here ? Are they going back afterwards and linking it up ? They are spending a terrific amount of money to prove they have too much money. Um, we knew that.

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Election year, perhaps?

"We take the security of our voters very seriously, unlike our dark-skinned opponent who (let others) deploy a fleet of spy planes over our sacred homeland, to help his terrorist brethen's plans to destroy America. Oh and they are kiddie-fiddlers, too"

I guess "they may even catch moonshiners and KKK ceremonies" is somewhat implied...

You've got to love US elections.

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Dear Senator, Kettle meet Pot

How about ya curb the drone crap in the homeland.

The Senator's main theme is - "Don't steal, the government doesn't like competition." That's why he wants to swat apple, google.

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Re: Dear Senator, Kettle meet Pot

Precisely! Don't spy on people, THAT"S OUR JOB!!

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