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Apple's next-generation mobile operating system, iOS 6, will include oh-so-cute 'n' cuddly gay and lesbian emoji couples for your texting and emailing enjoyment. Not that there's anything wrong with that. The two hand-holding couples are nestled among their heterosexual brothers and sisters – although, for reasons we at The Reg …

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Discrimination

What about bestiality zoophiles? Where are their icons?

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Re: Discrimination

You need to complain to the people who make the unicode standard if you want to represent your own lifestyle choices.

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That's it now

Bible belt America will start the backlash, Apple will be proclaimed the evil empire by all those Bible bashing preachers.

Even carrying an iPad, iPhone, iPod will mark you out as one of the Devils Disciples.

Hell and Damnation.

Could this be the end?

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Apple creepy and Californian! Awful! Almost as bad as that nasty rock music stuff!

Best publicity stunt ever.

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I never see the comparison between a loving relationship between consenting adults and shagging animals...but then i'm not a mentalist

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Re: Discrimination

Oh I agree - they also fail to cater for hemaphrodite's. Let alone those who are 50% hemaphrodite.

I'm outraged.

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Re: Discrimination

What about bestiality zoophiles? Where are their icons?

Don't know about them, but coprophiliacs are sorted: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f4a9/index.htm

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Re: That's it now Could this be the end?

You'll have to ask those how-many-millions who died from deadly diseases, liberally transmitted by the oh-so-"gay".

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Re: That's it now

Even carrying an iPad, iPhone, iPod will mark you out as one of the Devils Disciples.

Amusingly, the running joke around the office between the Android and iThingie cults has been that owning an iThingie makes you gay. This is just more fodder for the war, I think.

That said, I have never understood the aversion. 2 guys being gay = 2 more women on the market for the rest of us!!! WE NEED MOAR GAYS!!!!

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Bestiality is shagging animals, zoophilia is loving animals. So "bestiality zoophiles", though strangely constructed and partly redundant, would presumably refer to people who shag animals withing the context of a loving relationship. The animals would also be adults, and consenting (at least in the non-legally-loaded sense of the word), so there you go.

But given the large number of possible human/animal combinations, I think it's probably simpler if they just plop two icons side-by-side and call that good enough.

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Not much in the way of non-caucasians either, regardless of sexual orientation, orally challenged or otherwise

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Could that be because...

... emoji originate from Japan? At least that would account for the Japanese(?) characters and stereotypical westerners with their big round eyes.

And who says they are gay anyway? They might me friends.

Nothing wrong with it though - no doubt the religious wankers er, zealots of all description, not to mention the Daily Mail will be on the case. Ironically emailing from their Apple devices.

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Won't somebody think of the children.

They should be taught how to wield weapons and how to perform exorcisms, and how to come up with thousands of different ways to not explicitly state they hate the president because of the colour of his skin.

Not sure if Richard Cartledge is taking the piss or not, if you are then kudos. If not then, well hazard a guess.

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Good, good

For once Anna Leach will be pleased.

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This is part of the Unicode standard

http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf

Apple may pick their graphical representation, but what's available is set in the standard.

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Re: This is part of the Unicode standard

1F3E9 - Love Hotel - how very polite!

What's that thing (on the Apple emoji layout) between the barber's pole and the chequered flag?

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Re: This is part of the Unicode standard

1F52F seems to stand for a Kosher atom ;)

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1F49E - Polyamory?

Paris, because, do you need to ask?

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So...

They have the lady doing the "Macarena," where's the guy doing "YMCA?"

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Not Apple's fault!

They are just implementing the Unicode standard, which contains U+1F46C ('two men holding hands') and U+1F46D ('two women holding hands')…

The standard also contains U+1F46F ('woman with bunny ears'). I would write it here, but El Reg's forum seems woefully unable to accept it: "The post contains some characters we can’t support".

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Re: The post contains some characters we can’t support

el Reg draws the line at supporting women with bunny ears?

- just send them over here

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Scary

People without mouths are not so scary as the pile of shit symbol that *has* eyes and mouth (see the linked TechCrunch article).

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Re: Scary

It's known as the Lucky Poo in Japan, you culturally insensitive clod.

Here's an anime about a whole city of poo characters

Also see South Park's Mr Hankey

You're welcome.

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Re: Scary

I prefer being culturally insensitive clod to my poop sprouting eyes and mouths, thank you very much. In fact your links made it even more scary.

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As a gay man who is MILF curious....

I demand a MILF icon! I Demand it now Apple! Stop discriminating!

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Re: As a gay man who is MILF curious....

Who's the MILFophobe who downvoted me!

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Re: As a gay man who is MILF curious....

A gay man who's into MILFs and Zelda... will you be my new best friend? :)

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Re: As a gay man who is MILF curious....

I cant tell if this would be the start of a beautiful friendship or the start of an ordeal ending in court cases and therapy.....

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Strange story

A couple get together, then have a kid. It doesn't work out so they try the love that dare not speak its name. That doesn't work either so they get back together minus the child. A couple of Swedish devil women start dancing around, possess the woman and make her wave her arms around. Then someone tries to pull her head off, and then chop it off with a massive pair of scissors. She also gets her nails ripped out, becomes an angel, looks shocked and then finally seriously dismayed. The kid reappears a few years down the line, suffering from serious depression, and then has a play with the dressing up box.

Have to say I can't wait until part 2.

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Best read of the day!

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rofpmsl

Can I have a quart of what you're on please... ;)

nK

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Damn... That may have been the finest response-post I've seen in Comments since I joined this merry band in 2008. Well-played, well-played indeed.

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"Have to say I can't wait until part 2."

Yes, perhaps part 2 will explain how Apple got all of that into one icon.

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I call for the Reg Playmobil reconstruction of this

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That's going to take quite a complex icon to represent though !

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My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

... how in the hell could the fact[1] that the two guys living in the house on the other side of my Wife's rose garden are married possibly have any affect on my Wife & I's heterosexual marriage? Are the idiots really so unsure of their own marriage? Perhaps they should look within, instead of removing the rights of other tax-paying Californians.

[1] They had had their wedding planned for several years, and managed to hold it before Prop 8 ::spit:: was passed. They are legally married.

[2] It probably only passed because most of the ignorant voting public thought that "Yes" was in favo(u)r of gay marriage ... I can't tell you how many times I've had to tell someone that "Yes" was anti-gay, a "No" vote would have continued gay marriage. They usually look furtive & scurry away.

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Re: My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

Reminds me of an email i got back when proposition 8 was on the cards in California:

Why Gay marriage is wrong:

1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning. Also apparently those homosexual animals have picked up some unnatural behavier

2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Brittany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

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Re: My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

> how in the hell could the fact[1] that the two guys living in the house on the other side of my Wife's rose garden are married possibly have any affect on my Wife & I's heterosexual marriage?

It doesn't. The question is, "why do the two guys living in the house on the other side of your wife's rose garden want to apply a word denoting hetrosexual unions to themselves?"

Although spoken in jest, the point has been made above. I have deep affection for my dogs, they live with me and have done for longer than most marriages last, there is mutual affection and support. Why can this not be a marriage? It isn't a marriage because it doesn't fall under the definition of the word "marriage". I have two dogs - I'm not polygamous.

I suspect that the reason christians get upset is that the language is pretty well defined and has established usage. To include homosexual unions in the term when it is specifically understood to exclude homosexual, non-permanent hetrosexual, non-sexual and non-human relationships was always going to be seen as agressively anti-christian and I suspect was deliberate. To go through the legislative process and force a redefinition of the word by law seems like political activism overriding the will of the majority (at least in the US) which doesn't go down well. It isn't an anti-gay thing. Just because hetrosexual people are living togther in a committed relationship does not make them married. You often see the phrase "long-term partner" which is an apt description.

Why not pick a different word or term and dispense with all the hostility? "Civil partnership" (I'm not aware of any mainstream religions which bless homosexual relationships, so it would be civil) seems as good as any and "partner" is already in common usage.

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AC writes: "It isn't an anti-gay thing."

One word: Horseshit.

Have you never actually listened to the anti-gay sheeple minor sub-set of humanity incapable of thinking for themselves being "guided" by their shamans ... uh ... genetically human, but hard-of-thinking people, here in the US? I mean, seriously?

A marriage is a (hopefully) permanent union between two adults who love each other and plan to spend the rest of their lives together. Period.

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Re: My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

If you look back through human history you'll see that different cultures have had different ideas of what marriage is. The only description I can come up with that covers all of them is 'a social contract between two or more people'.

One man, one woman might be the Christian definition but it's by no means the only one.

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@Tigra 07: Re: My only question.... Point 2)

"...hanging around tall people will make you tall."

I tried that for a long time and it doesn't work. I know this is only anecdotal evidence but I thought I should share my observations on this one.

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Re: My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

"...is that the language is pretty well defined and has established usage."

Your rather inflexible viewpoint and the fact that I am annoyed I have to accept a 'second-rate' legal agreement instead of a proper marriage to my male partner aside, I downvoted you because of that one statement. Languages are a naturally evolving thing and the usage, definition, pronounciation etc. of words does change over time.

Unlike, it seems, your point of view.

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Re: My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

gay marriage...

I'm sorry there now I'm just going to have to stop you now.

Sure, I'm all for you homosexuals having equal rights etc... You deserve to be treated fairly.

But marriage means something in my book that does not include 2 people of the same sex living together. By all means help yourselves to the same rights if you will but marriage in my books it will NEVER EVER BE.

I was born at a time when marriage meant something different. I am sorry now but don't change that word. It actually means something special to me at least.

I know I know, the world changes. Words, definitions, morals change. What is acceptable today was not yesteryear and vice versa. Sometimes for good, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. I'm not saying this is a direct analogy but rather as an example of how I think the world has changed: when I grew up, you got a bad grades you got punished by the teacher and then your parents. Now, the teacher gets it.

I am not asking to deny gay/lesbians/bi their rights. Just don't come and equate my marriage to yours. It's not the same and never will be in my measure. Just go call it something else. You guys are bright, creative inventive whatever. Just go and come up with your own word for it.

Food for thought: This is the perfect example of why I have always said that freedom and rights isn't free. They have to be fought for. These guys have fought for their rights and now are changing our lexicon - perfect example. Rights, fine. My only question again is why let them redefine a heterosexual word? Should we let them? I should tell you I was once denied entry to a gay/lesbian bar going there to meet a gay friend because I brought a girl - so you can see why I am not all that enamoured by their movement, some of them take it TOOO far. How far will we allow this to go eh?

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"Wife's rose garden " - is that a metaphor and if so what's the emoji for it?

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Re: My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

But marriage means something in my book that does not include 2 people of the same sex living together.

I don't think you could find two people of the same sex.

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@Lincard1000

Your point about language evolving is quite true. Consider the original (and still true) meaning of 'gay' as being jolly or happy, it could be said that all successful marriages are gay. Therefore, my wife and I enjoy a gay marriage.

Throw that at them there religious fundamentalists!

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Re: "... how I think the world has changed: when I grew up ..."

Not sure where you grew up, but please take a moment to recall it was a mere 45 years ago that interracial marriage was illegal in numerous states in the U.S., and interracial married couples were being arrested.

http://imgur.com/gallery/XMdZx

Re: "I am not asking to deny gay/lesbians/bi their rights. Just don't come and equate my marriage to yours. It's not the same and never will be in my measure. Just go call it something else. You guys are bright, creative inventive whatever. Just go and come up with your own word for it."

Take any argument against gay marriage and replace "gay couple" with "interracial couple" and think about what you sound like.

45 years is not that long ago.

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Re: My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

"To go through the legislative process and force a redefinition of the word by law seems like political activism overriding the will of the majority (at least in the US) which doesn't go down well."

How very strange, considering that the majority in the US favors gay marriage[1].

Still, I get your point. It was terrible--just terrible!--when marriage got redefined in 1000 AD to be between one man and one woman instead of between one man and many woman. It's shocking and appalling, I say, when people discard tradition like that. Redefining marriage to be one man and one woman! As though thousands of years of tradition wasn't good enough!

And then those activist judges really got to work. Why, they overrode the will of the majority and said that marriage could be extended to encompass a union of a black person and a white person. What were they thinking, trouncing all over tradition and the will of the majority that way?

I say, go back to what marriage REALLY means. Return to the roots of marriage, before everyone started mucking it up with all this politically correct nonsense. Marriage is between one man and a bunch of women who he either buys from their fathers or he rapes and then marries after paying a fine to the local judge. That kind of marriage was good enough for the earliest civilizations, and it should be good enough for us[2].

[1] http://www.gallup.com/poll/154634/Acceptance-Gay-Lesbian-Relations-New-Normal.aspx

[2] Warning: Some parts of this post may contain sarcasm and should not be taken literally. Which bits are sarcastic will be left as an exercise to the reader.

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@AC06:11 (was: Re: ..)

Sometimes a rose garden is just a rose garden.

This one was planted as a joke, but a loving joke ... She loves roses, and likes Loretta Lynn's version of the song "Rose garden". While she was off helping her sister with new-born triplets, the Foreman & the Hands & I put in a rose garden between the herb garden just off the kitchen, and the fence we share with the gay guys. When she left, it was about a fifth of an acre of lawn, visible from our third floor bedroom (second floor to you brits).

She flew into SFO late afternoon and I drove her home, in time to arrive after dark. Remembering her "What the FUCK!" waking me up first thing in the morning still makes me smile :-)

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Re: My only question for the idiots against gay marriage is ...

You do know marriage existed long before the christian church don't you? The ancient Greeks and the Romans and some areas of China all allowed same-sex marriages, probably other places too but it's difficult to find historical records from that far back so if anyone is wrong on the subject it is the christian church who have hijacked it and twisted it to their particular set of beliefs. Beliefs which they think gives them the right to discriminate and in the past even maim, torture and kill people who don't think the same way as them. But they are only doing what God has told them to do and God loves you so its for your own good.

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