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Samsung's Galaxy S III is one of the most feature-stuffed smartphones yet. Well, at least there’s room, as it's equipped a 4.8in screen. Samsung's Galaxy Note 5.3in tablet-phone aside, this handset touts the largest display you'll find on a mainstream mobile and it packs a quad-core CPU too. Samsung Galaxy S III Android …

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Yawn

Wake me up when it runs Windows Phone 7.5. Nobody is interested in another run of the mill android phone

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Re: Yawn

That will be why no-one has pre-ordered it I'm guessing?

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Re: Yawn

Yeah. That's why this is the third outing of this particular phone (not to mention the Galaxy Ace and other deviations that aren't included in the "III" numbering scheme).

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Re: Yawn @Lee Dowling

You nail it on the head, Samsung is on attempt number 6 and they still failed. Since they are paying MS to use Android, they should just go the whole hog and stick a good OS on their phones at the same time.

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Re: Yawn

Well, there's always this lovely Batman edition Lumia 900

And at only £100 more than the Galaxy S III, its a real bargain to boot. Certainly not run-of-the-mill and you will get many "admiring" glances and comments** as passers-by notice the striking "Batman" logo and cool Batman wallpaper.

** If you consider someone rolling their eyes and muttering "w**ker" to be "admiring".....

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Re: Yawn @Lee Dowling

Again the AC makes a very good point, cosying up to MS has made Nokia the darling of the mobile phone industry, selling more phones than they can build. I was late for work this morning due to the queues to get into Merry Hill P4U to pick up a Nokia Lumia.

I feared this article was going to make me regret picking up an Xperia S a couple of months ago, but not a bit of it. Now I realise I should have got a Lumia, it's what all the cool kids are doing! Although all these cool kids do appear to be in Reading. I still can't figure out why.

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"Samsung is on attempt number 6 and they still failed"

Exactly. Samsung have put out their third revision of the most popular smartphone on the market and are still somehow failing - I say "somehow" because I don't know how they are failing. So they should switch to Windows Phone, which is now on attempt number 7 and still most definitely failing to acquire a market share.

Troll Score: 0/10. Or should that be 0 out of 7?

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Re: "Samsung is on attempt number 6 and they still failed"

(I know... feeding the troll...)

Third revision you say...? Still a few more to catch up with the fruity one...

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If "nobody" for the S3 means 9 million, then "somebody" for WP7 must mean the entire world population.

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Re: "Samsung is on attempt number 6 and they still failed"

I got trolled really badly on this thread actually.

After not reading the reg for a while, I took the comments seriusly.

"What a turn around for MS, people actually buying thier phones"

"And for Samsung too, I though they were gonna be the new apple'

"Oh...wait..."

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Re: Yawn

Only 90% in the review, with all the blurb comming out about this phone I thought it would be more!

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If

If you strap one on each foot.... You have a pair of snow shoes!

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Re: Yawn

I was expecting 85%, seems to be the norm for reviews on here.

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The Samsung note then

Makes a nice snow skating board...

Me heads for the mountains now with the note.

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Re: The Samsung note then

What's a snow skating board?

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Re: Yawn

"Wake me up when it runs Windows Phone 7.5. Nobody is interested in another run of the mill android phone"

I assume you're trolling. In fact I know you're trolling. But you wouldn't want WP7 on this. I have a Lumia 710 and it works quickly enough with its single-core processor. Quad-core phones are for Android which wnats that processor capacity. WP7 simply doesn't use it. A phone like this would be absurd overkill for it.

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Re: Yawn

Xperia Arc S owner.

Runs smoothly, occasional pause if I'm taking the piss out of it, but otherwise a solid phone.

Single core by the way. Android. It's also gone from 2.2 to 2.3 to 4.0, even if the last update needed awful bloatware installed on a computer with its own Internet connection to work.

Would ya like to try re-thinking the "needs a quad core" statement? Only things I see "needing" multi-core and heavy duty GPUs are things like 3D buildings in Google Maps/Earth, and certain games. Maybe multicore would help if you're the type to have umpteen highly-active badly-programmed widgets on each home screen, but even then that's less of a load than you think. Even my Mum's el cheapo Galaxy Y runs at a nice pace, and that's a "free on contract" bog standard basic thing with an 832Mhz processor.

Not sure where the "needs a supercomputer" myth came from, unless it's from people using really shit 600mhz ARM11 things running Cupcake or Donut. Those things really do need a kick up the arse.

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Re: Yawn @Lee Dowling

IF they use a good OS then why would they use something from Microsoft ? Make sense !

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You really are a boring shite.

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Send in the cavilry

"There are cavils from critics who complain that it uses Pentile Amoled instead of the newer Super Amoled Plus technology..."

Gosh, yes, certainly I will complain - at that sentence's pretentiousness!

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Camera sensor

I thought there was a new sensor? It's the same size, pixel-wise, but seems to be a better chip, and also has back-side illumination now. Which I assume is good.

Going to have to go and play with this one before thinking about buying. First impression is that I'd rather stick with my Note for now and wait for the (surely inevitable?) sequel, but I'm sorely tempted by the S3 the more I see of it.

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Re: Camera sensor

My backside doesn't need illuminating, the sun shines out of it :)

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but, is that good? Is it better than the (presumably) old-fashioned front-bottom illumination?

I'm not sure I even understand what I'm asking now.

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Quad Core?

Is Android so bloated that it needs a quad core CPU?

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Is Android so bloated that it needs a quad core CPU?

That's rich coming from a Microsoft fanboy.

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Re: Quad Core?

"That's rich coming from a Microsoft fanboy."

Are you referring to the fact that Microsoft's current mobile OS runs "Fast and Fluid" one a single core? Oh no you can't be, 'cos that would make your retort all wrong. So I have no idea what you're talking about, sorry.

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Winpho runs fine on a single core because Microsoft won't let you do anything with it, it doesn't need extra umph because there is nothing on it and when Winpho get 10000 apps that use extra umph, like Dead space, Mass effect 3 or shadow gun, you will be regretting that it isn't single core. However if mine sweeper, solitaire and some god awful in house apps they have written are your bag, then a single core is fine.

Want to put a background on your front page? No.

Want to remove some of the stupid icons / hubs, tiles or whatever MS PR call them, completely from your front screen? No.

Want to develop your own apps and put them on when and where you want? Without MS saying yes? No.

Nokia the "darling of the mobile phone industry"... Eh, what? When? Struggling monolithic, and desperate more like.

The galaxy's only short coming is the plastic case. Not sure I trust that over an aluminium one.

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"...So I have no idea what you're talking about, sorry..."

Never used MS Office, or Vista / Win7 then? Lucky you!

"...Microsoft's current mobile OS runs "Fast and Fluid" ..."

Yeah, like diarrhea.

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"Winpho runs fine on a single core because Microsoft won't let you do anything with it"

Funnily enough they let me do anything I want

"it doesn't need extra umph because there is nothing on it"

There are 136 apps on mine...

"...and when Winpho get 10000 apps that use extra umph, like Dead space, Mass effect 3 or shadow gun, you will be regretting that it isn't single core."

Well I'm running plenty of great games so I'll wait for that to happen I guess, lol

"Want to put a background on your front page? No."

No I don't. The start screen is covered with live tiles, there's no need for a background, it would just clutter things up.

"Want to remove some of the stupid icons / hubs, tiles or whatever MS PR call them, completely from your front screen? No."

I can remove any/all live tiles that I want to.

"Want to develop your own apps and put them on when and where you want? Without MS saying yes? No."

I don't develop apps so will leave that for someone else to answer. All the apps I want are in the marketplace.

"The galaxy's only short coming is the plastic case. Not sure I trust that over an aluminium one."

I'd say having a mobile OS that needs four CPU cores is a bit of a shortcoming. Hurts now that the shoe is on the other foot, doesn't it?

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Re: Quad Core?

"Never used MS Office, or Vista / Win7 then? Lucky you!"

All the time but NOT ON MY PHONE, I think you're confusing mobile OSs with PC software.

"Yeah, like diarrhea."

Ah, insults, last refuge of the weak.

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Are you so fat that you need TWO legs? Let's cut one off.

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"There are 136 apps on mine..."

Wow! Did you win a prize for getting the entire WP app library onto your phone?

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Re: Quad Core?

the original question was "Is Android so bloated that it needs a quad core CPU?".

It's more likely it's because it's badly written, not because it's bloated. If it was because of bloat it'd need a load of memory not extra cores.

But then, writing something that works well on multiple cores is trickier than writing something that works well on one, so it can't be that badly written, can it?

So why does a phone OS need quad cores? Does anyone have anything sensible to contribute rather than just trying to shift the discussion to another OS? I'm interested in knowing why Android needs that much power, what is it doing that needs it?

Oh, but in the spirit of the discussion, iPhone OS is rubbish!

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Re: Quad Core?

The question isn't does Android need quad core, looking at many other devices, it quite clearly does not.

The point is that it *can use* four cores. That means that you have the option of having several other tasks running in the background without impacting the core system.

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"...you have the option of having several other tasks running in the background without impacting the core system."

Never had that problem, TBH. I seem to be able to have Tunein Radio streaming away, content synching with the cloud, live tiles updating themselves, all happening in the background while I surf the net, and no UI slowdown at all. On a single core. Ah well. Works for me. *shrug*

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>>looking at many other devices, it quite clearly does not.<<

Doesn't it? I've got an android phone (sony xperia play) and it definitely struggles at times. Not so badly that you think it's crashed, but so badly that you press something twice because you don't think the first press has registered.

The boy's Monte Carlo is apparently getting slower and slower. We got it for christmas, he's just been telling me he writes his texts then puts the phone down for a minute while the screen catches up, checks his message then sends...

So while you can argue android doesn't need quad core, it seems that there are definitely phones out there that are running android that are under specced for it.

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Well it may not need it now but it opens up possibilities for the next generation of apps. If you remember Bill Gates once asked why would anyone need more than 640kb. Well clearly more memory has vastly improved the applications you can run. The same is true for mobiles.

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Re: Quad Core?

My S2 rarely uses its second core but it does work in heavy games. Never noticed a slow down to be honest.

I'd love to see how you store movies, music, random crap on your winpho though. I think I have upwards of 26gb now on mine (spread between internal and the 32gb uSD). You still cannot sync multiple exchange accounts to the winpho. Odd that android and iphones let you do this. Pretty much a no brainer for sysadmins really. MS answer is to use OWA. Peachy huh? I must admit at last they let you have multiple calendars for the single exchange account. Thats nice considering again it has been on android since 1.6 and iphones.

Cant say i'd swap my s2 for a winpho. I see you're a fan of tunein pro - me too! Try copying a file over the network, stream and play a game at the same time. I typically play PES2012 for a few minutes when i'm copying TV episodes (whilst listening to rocky FM). The lumia 900 in the office borked when trying to multitask this way.

Whilst the lumia 900 and winpho 7.5 might look nice, its pretty much all knickers no action TBH.

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So that's what WinPhone7 users mean when they say their phones are the shit!

Thanks for enlightening me. :)

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In short, no. Browse down a bit and read the HTC One V review. Same hardware as your beloved WinPho7 devices, just as smooth as the quad core blowers. Difference being, it can't play 1080p video or play HD console quality games like the quads.

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I too have a play, the slow downs are due to Sony bloatware, I'm running CM9 RC0 (Ice Cream Sandwhich FXP 121 kernel). It runs smoothly and I have around 60-70 applications installed, Hotmail push email, SMS Backup & Restore, 3G Watchdog, Facebook, Google+, Llama, BTFon, BeWeather, CoPilot, etc...

The Sony based roms out there tend to suffer from lag and with that many applications you are always fighting for memory (Sony's beta ICS build was horrific for it).

I've also found the phone works a lot better when you have 100mb's free in application storage, if you get below that lag starts appearing so moving applications accross to the SD card helps alot.

Considering Sony have cancelled the ICS release for the Play I was toying with getting an S3 next year

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"You still cannot sync multiple exchange accounts to the winpho"

Erm, yes you can... got 3 sync'd on mine...

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Re: Is Android so bloated that it needs a quad core CPU?

nope, it works just fine on my milestone which, last time i checked was a single core. and i should know because i worked on the 3430.

of course you can but dream about swapping sd cards, copying and playing movies of just about any available format etc. you could also argue that you see no need for this and so convince yourself that all is hunky-dory, and you would be correct in this. whatever rocks your boat son, be happy with it.

having said that, i am surprised to see that microsoft has not managed to make major inroads into the corporate environment. assuming they can have better integration with office viewers and better support for displaying and modifying office documents, i would expect them to own this segment.

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Re: Quad Core?

It doesn't need a quad core my single core Desire HD runs ICS perfectly, it has a quad core because Samsung make CPUs so can afford to use their latest model at cost - it's called economics.

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Re: Quad Core?

WinPho 7.5 runs on a single core because its based on the WinCE kernel which doesn't do SMP. Android, based on Linux, does, so it uses them. This really says nothing about how WELL each one uses them or if they are required.

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100%?

What's kicked it back from 100%. Or does RegHard never give 100%?

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Re: 100%?

Gimmicky apps, a less than expected 8mb camera, small annoyances here and there. I thought 90% about right.

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Re: 100%?

I've been saying for some time now that The Register never rate any phone less than 75% or more than 90%

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Re: 100%?

Not to mention the cheap plastic case. Personally I like HTC's aluminium/rubberised approach.

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"cheap plastic case" - they're using the exact same material as HTC are for the One X, just with a gloss rather than matt finish.

Personally I don't like the rubbery feeling HTC used to use, but it's just horses for coconuts.

Bloke brought one of these into the office this afternoon having found the last shop in town with any in stock. It feels really, really nice in the hand. I'm very impressed, and even more tempted than I was before. It's weird, because it's apparently heavier than the One X (just), but there's definitely something in the ergonomic claims Samsung have been making. It really somehow feels a lot thinner and lighter than it actually is - but still solid.

I like it a lot.

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