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Silicon Valley cops arrested two Greenpeace activists who sealed themselves into a huge (i)Pod outside Apple HQ today, but chose not to cuff another bunch of activists who were dressed as giant iPhones. Greenpeace has been chastising the Mac and iOS firm for the last few years for not exactly being the freewheeling, earth- …

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'Brandy Palm, blogging from inside the eight-feet tall pod, declared: "This is an incredibly important issue for me personally.'

Get a life, Brandy.

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amusing

Noticed on the video Greenpeace activist using an iPhone to make a call.

Is that the definition of irony?

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Joke

Maybe she should offer to change her name to Brandy Apple :)

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No

RTFA

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No, not "irony".

The fact that they are Apple-using consumers is EXACTLY WHY they want Apple to change its manufacturing processes. Like the other guy said, RTFA.

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Vote with your feet... put your money where your mouth is.. and such

Blogging about how bad Apple is on your iPad is like complaining about mistreated cattle while eating a burger at McDonald's.

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Re: Vote with your feet... put your money where your mouth is.. and such

I hope you're not implying McDonalds uses beef in any of their products.

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Re: Vote with your feet... put your money where your mouth is.. and such

You might want to ask some U.S. Hindus about that one--apparently a bit of tallow in the fat makes (or made) the fries all the tastier.

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Re: Vote with your feet... put your money where your mouth is.. and such

>complaining about mistreated cattle while eating a burger at McDonald's.

Why do they keep winning RSPCA Good Business Awards for services to animal welfare in their supply chain then?

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>"Why do they keep winning RSPCA Good Business Awards"?

Probably for outsourcing their animal cruelty to Argentina.

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Hipsters Vs. Hipsters

Old generation hipster worthless movement meet the new generation hipster worthless movement.

Each is as irrelevant as the next.

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Is the pod air tight?

Is the pod air tight?

If not, can we make it air tight?

I'm just trying to help the Greenpeace-ers here - I'm sure they don't want to pollute the atmosphere with their horrible greenhouse gas emissions of CO2 and CH4.

Nuke, because were they serious about the environment they'd be for it.

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Wrong author

For better entertainment value (watching the resulting flame wars -- what did you think I meant?), you really need to have Andrew and Lewis writing these Greenpeace articles...

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> you really need to have Andrew and Lewis writing these Greenpeace articles...

Andrew I would say, in that case: it also involves Apple...

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Greenpeace makes a fuss...

And nobody really pays any attention to the attention whores.

(outside of arresting a couple for blocking foot traffic with a Fischer Price Teletubby playhouse.)

Seriously, going after Apple for using nasty-nasty coal genenerated power? I suppose all the protesters have monitors on all their outlets to block it from their homes, since after all, some of the electricity coming off the grid and into their homes is coal generated.

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Re: Greenpeace makes a fuss...

Greenpeace accused Apple of using dirty coal power for its new datacenter, Apple put out a press release stating the entire 20 megawatts it used would be generated via solar panels and biogas (from a nearby landfill, turned into electricity with Bloom fuel cells) Greenpeace then accused Apple of lying about the amount of power its datacenter used, saying a datacenter that size would consume 100 megawats.

I must have missed the part where Greenpeace are such experts they are able to determine the amount of power a building will use, when they only fact they know about it is its size and that it is a datacenter.

I have a feeling that even if Apple produced the utility bills showing $0 in utility electric usage, Greenpeace would still claim they are lying. If Greenpeace really cared about dirty coal power they'd go picket in China where the coal power is much much dirtier than it is anywhere in the US.

Instead they camp on Apple's front lawn because:

1) Anything involving Apple will get them in the news

2) They feel guilty using iPhones knowing they aren't as green as the alternative of two cans connected by twine (but they are fine with Foxconn employees committing suicide, fewer people on the planet consuming resources is a good thing in their eyes)

3) Camping on Apple's lawn is a much cushier protest than camping out in Antarctica to protest something involving penguins

4) Sunnyvale's jail is a lot nicer than the Chinese prison they'd get tossed in if they tried protesting like this in front of a business using dirty Chinese coal power

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Re: Greenpeace makes a fuss...

Any dedicated Greenpeace member is self sufficient in energy using the renewable sources of hot air and methane only a true lentil eating earth lover can produce.

And you thought they ate all those lentils because they were scared to look their food in the eye.

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Damaging actions...

If only Greenpeace would consider their actions more carefully...

Because IMO they do have a point; it is important to try and limit the use of energy so that we'll last longer. But actions like these are not the way to do it. Worse: they'll most likely have the exact opposite effect as can be seen above.

Trying to force people or companies into doing something has never worked, and will only come to bite you in the behinds. Laser beaming messages; and in the end you'll only hinder people who only want to do their job and actually /earn/ a living for themselves. Job nicely done indeed.

Making people and governments aware will have much more effect. And trying not to overdo stuff and pulling into ridiculous scenario's helps too.

Example: In Holland there was a speedway all build and ready; approx. 15km of asphalt sitting ready to be used and help take traffic loads away from another busy (and because of that dangerous) highway.

Yet it couldn't be used. Because environmentalist groups (subsidized by the government no less) had filed complaints and managed to postpone the official opening of the road for at least 1.5 years. And to what end? Everything was done, all was ready and approved. No, IIRC they demanded another investigation.

Finally everything was put in place and the road has been used ever since. But actions like that do not help people understand nor appreciate, quite the opposite.

IMO this is no different. Quite a shame too because as mentioned above; I do agree that we need to work on conserving energy. Every little bit can help, but not with (IMO) idiotic actions like these.

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Attention whores

Who think this will help them get laid.

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Interesting to see how good Greenpeace is at shooting themselves in the foot for publicity. I guess they want more free money from suckers.

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Greenpeace will see this as a win. They'll be patting each other on the back saying "Look at all the publicity we've got, now everyone will hear our message!".

It's true, this article brought their complaint to my attention, but I'm more annoyed at their bullshit stunts than the issue they're complaining about. Especially since they're using iDevices.

It's the same old retards who have nothing to do in life, don't fit in with normal society and want to get some attention.

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Greenpeace is just gathering steam

A possible future of Greenpeace is depicted in the Prince Roger series (March To The Sea, March To The Stars, We Few) by David Weber and John Ringo. There the Greenpeace is an elite enforcement arm (engaging in genocide and terrorism) of the Saint empire which starves and works people to death by restoring planets to their "pristine" condition.

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And vitriolic propaganda is a serious argument how?

I just wrote a short story on the back of a fag packet in which you turn out to be an asshole; doesn't make it true. Claiming fictional stories as supportive evidence for your position because you wish they were true because they'd back you up if they were is basically self-delusional wish fulfillment fantasy, not rational discussion. Like the other guy, saying how much he'd like it if everyone who doesn't think the same way he does died of asphyxiation. And you have the cheek to call *them* extremists?

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Did anyone else think that Brandy Palm sounds like a stripper name?

I mean, seriously! Do parents not say the names they want for their kids out loud?

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Re: Did anyone else think that Brandy Palm sounds like a stripper name?

Brandy is only one of Mrs. Palm's five lovely daughters.

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Apple are going up in my estimations

I like many others believed that Apple was as socialist loony lefty company that had ideals so far removed from my own that I found it difficult to support them.

The fact that Apple don't pander to the ridiculous loony left and the anthropogenic climate change goons just improves their standing as far as I am concerned.

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