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Simpsons creator Matt Groening has revealed the location of Springfield, the setting for The Simpsons. In an interview with The Smithsonian, Groening says The Simpsons live in Springfield, Oregon, the setting for the radio and television drama Father Knows Best. Groening says he liked Father Knows Best as a child and, growing …

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The odd episode is still funny

They still have the odd pearl... They've just got to stop trying to be Family Guy or South Park (their 6 months to make an episode vs 2 weeks for SP) and just go back to being a simple animated family sitcom, and it will be fine. The more it tries to be "relevant" and "now", the more the weakness in its production system hurt it.

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Re: The odd episode is still funny

Err... no. They simply need to stop making the programme.

There are still some traces of talent in the creative team. Let them go somewhere they can do some good, not keep flogging the same dead horse.

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Re: The odd episode is still funny

ALL comedy shows stop being funny after several series. The writers and creators need to move on. None of the shows that go much past 5 seasons still have that ZING!

So some might argue that the long running shows still pull out an occasional "gem". Is that really worth the pain and investment in the other 20+ episodes?

If you came up with one good show, prove you've got real talent by inventing more. Don't just milk the lame public with the same old drivel week in, week out.

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"None of the shows that go much past 5 seasons still have that ZING!"

So the fact that I was pissing myself laughing at three series 16 episodes of South Park back to back just the other day is more to do with my weak bladder and penchant for weed? Fuck me.

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Re: The odd episode is still funny

Thanks but no thanks -- incontinent stoners really aren't my type.

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Re: ALL comedy shows stop being funny after several series

Friends. Funny 'til the very last episode. Seinfeld, same.

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Re: The odd episode is still funny

Concentrate on Futurama!!

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Seinfeld?

Well I guess Seinfeld was the same from first to last, but funny isn't the word I would have chosen.

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Fixed it for you

Friends. Boring, inane and stupid 'til the very last episode. Seinfeld, same.

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Re: ALL comedy shows stop being funny after several series

I will certainly admit that "Friends" and "Seinfeld" were evenly funny from beginning to end. But I found them both tediously annoying from beginning to end rather than funny in an absolute sense.

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Western Kentucky, said the voice over

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If Google Maps is correctly showing Springfield's city boundaries, they must have been drawn by some mad whittler on speed.

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If you tilt your head 90 degrees to the right ............

.... it looks like Homer eating a doughnut and not realising that he's on fire.

(Maybe it's just me......)

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You know that you are old when you can remember when the Simpsons was funny.

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Indeed

You know you are ancient when you can remember the Simpsons as a mere short on the Tracey Ullman Show.

<-- Old

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You know when you are really ancient when you remember Tracey Ullman on British TV, along with some youngster called Lenny Henry. No idea what happened to the third one.

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This may help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_of_a_Kind_%28TV_series%29

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...even more ancient when you can remember the days when popstars dressing as schoolgirls was just harmless fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BDLcutLekU

(go on, you know you want to)

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Became a thatcher, IIRC. He was certainly never cut out to be a comedian.

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"You know that you are old when you can remember when the Simpsons was funny."

That was around the second series right?

I know you're not talking about the first few series when they still tried to have a message.

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I still have copy of Tracey Ullman video with Neil Kinnock in it somewhere.

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You have a remarkable taste in porn.

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Heck, haven't seen that video for, er 29 years, thanks for sharing! Some of todays wannabe's could learn something about (cheesy) pop music and videos from that.

I must be getting on a bit as I am fairly sure I have some Tracey Ullman 7 inch vinyl in the cupboard under the stairs.. will have to dig it out and play it later....

What, it's the Simpsons we're talking about? Doh....

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"...even more ancient when you can remember the days when popstars dressing as schoolgirls was just harmless fun"

There was a lot of it about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM_9As_2VAg

<sigh>

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I'm so old I can remember when Lenny Henry was funny.

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I'm even older than that and I still can't remember when Tracey Ullman was funny.

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"I'm so old I can remember when Lenny Henry was funny"

Condensed Milk Sandwiches.

That is all.

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> I'm so old I can remember when Lenny Henry was funny.

I must be young because I can not remember him being funny.

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Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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And you know you're quite as old when you can remember when the Simpsons was funny but didnt have Sky so were about 6 years behind watching it on BBC2.

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You mean now, in Japan?

Seriously, they do. I catch odd snippets on the French ADSL-only TV channel Nolife, which has extensive coverage of Japanese pop music, and an awful lot of them look like (caricatures of) late-teen schoolgirls, complete with the skirts almost long enough to be belts, etc. (I say caricatures because *in school* their uniforms are a bit longer than that - mid-thigh is on the short side, and winter uniforms are often ankle-length.)

Then again, lot of Japanese pop stars would make the majority of Western artists (KISS and Lordi aside) look like they are normal citizens.

Japan is an odd place.

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You know you've been dead for many years...

when you remember 'Kick up the Eighties' with an upstart called Rick Mayall

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I spent quite a while thinking Kevin Turvey was his real name...

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So far I've only found Quimby and Flanders in Portland, now to spend the rest of the day looking for the others....

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> So some might argue that the long running shows still pull out an

> occasional "gem". Is that really worth the pain and investment

> in the other 20+ episodes?

*cough* Doctor Who *cough*

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...well, if you think Doctor Who is supposed to be a comedy show, that may explain why you're finding it not to your taste...

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Quite right, it's plain to see that it's a romantically themed soap opera nowadays.

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You know you're old if you can remember when Red Dwarf had better special effects than Dr Who

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Blue Peter had better special effects than the original Doctor Who.

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Actually, you know you're really over the hill....

...when you remember Father Knows Best when it was in first run prime time.

Mine's the one with the copy of TV Guide with no mention of which shows were in color, 'cause it was all B&W back then.

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And you had to crank the bloody thing for an hour and a half just to watch a half-hour show.

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Grew up just south of Eugene/Springfield, dad worked in the paper mill in Springfield. Springfield doesn't smell too bad if you're close enough to the mill, get about a mile out and the sulfur hits. Not a whole lot out there besides rednecks, Eugene has UO, springfield has the loggers. Some other outlets were talking about how "near" it is to Portland -- it's a 3 hour drive or train trip, not next door like they make it sound. But if you're ever in PDX go to the Alphabet District to see the streets he named people after, and then on SW 18th and Taylor by Lincoln High School, he drew Bart in the cement, as that was where he graduated from.

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They have a road called the Randy Pape Beltline? Really?

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Actually you know you're really over the hill

When you watched some fella called 'God' create the heavens and the earth and knew from long experience that by the end of the week he'd be burnt out and need a rest.

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Re: Actually you know you're really over the hill

But that's only 6-7,000 years ago though (according to a story in an old book I heard about once) - or was that the first episode of 'The Sky at Night' - or are they in fact the SAME THING!!!! - so easy to get confused - - big old man, only a few can claim to have heard and understood him, stars, planets, etc.....

THAT'S IT - Patrick Moore is god, and he created the universe (a.k.a first episode of The Sky at Night) 7,000 years ago - in those days it was planned to be a nightly show running for 6 days (Patrick to have a rest on the 7th) and he covered different things on each day, Firmament, Earth, etc. Due to a stomach bug he picked-up at an office party in an early Wimpy he was replaced for the rest of the week by Richard Attenborough, who changed the topic slightly and covered humans, plants, and animals. After the ratings (Patrick saw it was good) it was decided to let Patrick continue with the star-version - Sir Richard would get hos chance nearly 7000 years later in his Life series.

:-)

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Re: Actually you know you're really over the hill

Amusing, but you blew it a little there.

You're thinking of David Attenborough, the naturalist, not his older brother Richard, the actor and director.

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Re: Actually you know you're really over the hill

I've just renounced my faith in the FSM, and will join as your disciple in building this brave new church. Richard Attenborough did create the dinosaurs from lumps of golden amber- I've seen documentary evidence, passed down in ancient tomes bearing the mysterious inscription 'VHS'. He also spoke unto the prophet Ghandi Kingsley, as lo he spread the Great Dick's message to all who would believe in him.

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Re: Actually you know you're really over the hill

..if you can remember when Muffin the Mule was a kids programme, not pr0n!

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Sounds better if you say "..if you can remember when Muffin the Mule wasn't an offence"

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Futurama

Shame it didn't take off to the same extent as The Simpsons, but that may be related to its funniness/cleverness.

South Park still does a decent job most of the time, although it is getting increasingly patchy

I thought The Simpsons should have retired gracefully about 12 yrs ago, I don't even bother watching any more.

Fact is, sometimes you just run out of jokes for any given setup then you jump the shark. Keeping on flogging old formats into the ground stifles creativity, risk, and trying something new.

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