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In a predictable backlash against the sweep that has netted suspected LulzSec members in America and Europe, Anonymous has defaced some web pages of the security firm Panda Security. As previously reported by The Register, the arrests turned on the assistance of Hector Xavier Monsegur, known in LulzSec circles as Sabu. Anonymous …

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Anonymous Coward

Just making it easy

Why not just walk into an FBI office and declare you are LulzSec? Do these hackers get reduced sentences for being dumb?

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Getting even!

"Website graffiti for Lulzsec arrests".

Well that really evens up the score, now doesn't it?!

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Re: Getting even!

In a way, yes, it's quite silly. On the other hand, it's tremendeously bad publicity for Panda. I mean, would you really hire a physical security company if they got their lobby vandalised every time they apprehended a suspect?

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Anonymous Coward

Entertaining

Entertaining, now all of the Stratfor leak can be made questionable as fabricated because it comes from a source that is known to be compromised.

One shot - two targets. Applause. Well thought out and well executed. Surprisingly well for US 3 letter outfits.

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Re: Entertaining

>>>>>now all of the Stratfor leak can be made questionable as fabricated because it comes from a source that is known to be compromised.

Huh, what? The Stratfor leak always came from a source that could be compromised! Random shit, posted on the internet, is not exactly the world's most credible chain of evidence.

This news makes it no more, or less, likely that any of it has been faked.

Suspicion of government is a healthy attitude to maintain. So long as you're able to recognise when it's more likely the government is telling the truth - as it often does.

Assuming that Anonymous/Lulzsec are trustworthy by default (and made less so by interaction with government) is plain stupid.

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unsupervised children on the interwebs

if they were actually hacking then they may get some kudos, but pissing with websites is hardly matrix style l33t haxors skillz

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Anonymous Coward

tit for tat.

I love these tit (Script kiddies scribble graffiti on some website.) for tat (Police throw aforementioned script kiddies in a federal pound me up the ass prison.) exchanges.

By my reckoning the tats are ahead somewhat.

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Let me understand this

Anon/LulzSec hack into the FBI comms channels. This is "good".

Someone hacks into Anon/LulzSec comms channels. This is "bad".

Err....sauce for the goose and all that.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Anon/LulzSec hack into systems and break them - BAD

They release documents that show inner workings of govt, some of which is corrupt - GOOD

They piss off the FBI - BAD (idea)

FBI arrests people who broke things, probably LulzSec - err ... good? I think?

People arrested get abused in prison - BAD

Verdict: everything is BAD and broken forever. Also, it's raining and my coffee is cold.

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Panda cops

Did anyone else after reading the title expect an article about Panda police officers? No? Oh OK then.

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Re: Panda cops

Nope. I thought of panda cars.

Defacing panda cars with anti-police grafitti perhaps...

But I salute you for your mental acuity. Clearly these pandas are not to be trusted. Despatched by the Chinese government on multi-year secret missions to the world's most important cities - they lull their hosts into a false sense of security by their laziness. But clearly no sensible person can believe such a ludicrous animal could be real? Conclusion, they must be secret-police-disguised-as-pandas. Obvious innit.

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Re: Panda cops

> Panda police officers

Not everything is so black and white.

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@Soruk

Dammit. (see icon)

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Re: Panda cops

Note for non-UK readers, Panda Cars are local police patrol units, which when introduced in the 1960s were generally Light Blue with White doors. They tend to be silver now, because they have a better resale value, if a standard GM Compact Astra thrashed to death by our braveboys in blue could ever be deemed to have a resale value.

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Panda Security's official statement

On March 6th the hacking group LulzSec, part of Anonymous, obtained access to a Panda Security webserver hosted outside of the Panda Security internal network. This server was used only for marketing campaigns and to host some of the company’s blogs. Neither the main website www.pandasecurity.com nor www.cloudantivirus.com were affected in the attack. The attack did not breach Panda Security’s internal network and neither source code, update servers nor customer data was accessed. The only information accessed was related to marketing campaigns such as landing pages and some obsolete credentials, including supposed credentials for employees that have not been working at Panda for over five years.

We continue investigating the cause of the intrusion and will provide more details as soon as they become available. Meanwhile we assure all our customers and partners that none of their information has been compromised and that our products and services continue functioning as normal.

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Re: Panda Security's official statement

Yes, but lets be honest Panda...

For all your knee- bent-running-about-crisis-management-behaviour, you still look a bit silly.

Being self styled online security experts. There's really no getting away from that, is there?

Intrusion detection? Backup & recovery? Password security? Patching?

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eggs - basket

"the hacking group LulzSec, part of Anonymous"

Beware script kiddies, you're next to be included.

Who's after that to join the enemies of freedom and decency?

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Re: eggs - basket

freedom and decency are in the eye of the beholder

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Re: Panda Security's official statement

Panda, you were beaten at the very game your tout yourselves as being experts in. Supposedly experts in preventing what happened to you from happening to others. If you think for a minute you can word-smith and spin yourselves out of an embarrassing and untenable position you're as delusional as they come.

What you need to do is acknowledge you were had and then move on from there and do better. But, since you'd have us believe you're the very best, I'd suggest you have just put your foot in your mouth, stepped on your crank and any number of things that demonstrate your basic, underlying, incompetence.

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@Doug Glass: Not at all.

The internals, where Panda product are deployed, were unaffected by the hack. The marketing sites, controlled by the clueless drones and bean counters who ignored our security advice for ease of use and cost control, were hacked. So their product is good, AND they've provided evidence of what happens when it's ignored.

See how easy that is? And I don't even work for or use their product.

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Anonymous Coward

Sabu

It appears that Sabu is being denounced because the other Anon/Lulzsec members think he's a "snitch" - I'd be interested to see how the other members of Anon/Lulzsec stand up to interrogation by professional law enforcement. I suspect they think it'd be easy, I mean, how hard can it be?

Well, it turns out very hard (I speak from experience), especially if you're the sort of person who gets cocky and doesn't just stick with "No Comment" as an answer to anything.

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Re: Sabu

According to reports I've read, there wasn't much interrogating. Police knocked on his door, he realized the jig was up and just how badly he was screwed and started chattering away before they even took him down to be booked. After he'd been booked, he was pretty much a sock puppet for the FBI. Which means the other arrests that have just been made are likely to hold up well in court. The question for LULZ and anon is: How much do you trust those people not to turn just as quickly as Sabu did?

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Anonymous Coward

Denial is not working

Denial doesn't seem to be working too well for Anon, Sabu, Assange or The Pirate Bay Boys. there seems to be a pattern here. It would appear that Denial is not a river in Egypt.

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Joke

so are they a sad panda?

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Anonymous Coward

I wonder ....

What would make this a great story is if they police were accused of entrapment by using Sabu. I don't think I have prepared this much popcorn in a while.

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Anonymous Coward

Let the circus begin

It should be funny hearing the defenses for these hackers in court.

"I'couldn't get a job so I hacked the FBI website to show them how smart I R."

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