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Intel has begun distributing the open source LibreOffice suite via its online AppUp Store, and has joined the board of The Document Foundation (TDF) – a decision that will have many of the Redmond old-guard fuming. "I have been using LibreOffice from day one for presentations at conferences and for data analysis," said Dawn …

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Mushroom

Just to annoy MS?

Given Microsoft has just brought ARM into the Windows fold and killed AppUp with the Windows Store, whats the betting this is a mini F U MS!

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Re: Just to annoy MS?

That is probably it. Two can play this game from Intel. They will probably end up wrecking each other.

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Re: Re: Just to annoy MS?

"they will probably end up wrecking each other."

We should be so lucky.

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IT Angle

Who would have thought that.

Have I jumped into a parallel universe? Microsoft advertising Windows on ARM and Intel advertising alternatives to MS products? What will be next - Intel producing ARM processors? MS Office for Debian? VMWare offering KVM? IBM building SPARC servers? Oracle giving away their RDBMS under the LGPL license?

Is that Nazareth in the background playing "Dream on..."?

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Who would have thought that.

"Intel producing ARM processors?"

Too late - Intel actually used to do so (StrongARM). They have stopped *for now*, but if Win8 on ARM takes off, Intel may very well decide to go with the flow, re-license ARM, implement it with their Tri-Gate tech, and start to seriously hammer on everybody else's power consumption - remember, they've been able to make the X86 (that dog of an "architecture") run on low power, image what they could do with an ARM.

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Boffin

Intel still make ARM processors

That is not true. Intel STILL DO make ARM processors. Intel acquired Infineon's mobile SoC business and makes baseband chips with ARM application processors.

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Who would have thought that.

Google for "Intel foundry services" (no quotes!), what is the #1 result?

Rumor says that Intel is using their spare capacity for fabbing other (non-x86) designs.

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Linux

Redmond and...

I'm sure Oracle is just thrilled to hear it too, even though their relationship with Intel is obviously quite different. It must burn them to see so much support against their ideas.

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Re: Redmond and...

Oracle doesn't care about OpenOffice. They are pro anything that is anti-MS.

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Dare to think: Office for Tux maybe closer than you think.

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If only it (LibreOffice) didn't have such a terrible name

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If only it (LibreOffice) didn't have such a terrible name

You mean more terribler than the silly and childish names given to the releases of Linux? Mangy Meerkat? Felonious Ferret? <etc>

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Re: If only it (LibreOffice) didn't have such a terrible name

Releases of Ubuntu, which is one of several distributions* based on the Linux kernel, it's not Linux which releases under those names.

* Others include Suse, Fedora/Red Hat, Debian, CentOS, Mandriva, Mint, et al

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Re: Re: If only it (LibreOffice) didn't have such a terrible name

And Suse, Fedora/Red Hat, Debian, Mandriva and Mint are such sensible names...

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Re: Re: Re: If only it (LibreOffice) didn't have such a terrible name

... not to mention Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Dolphin, KOffice, Kwrite, Konqueror, Amarok, Nautilus, Banshee etc. etc. etc.

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Re: Re: Re: If only it (LibreOffice) didn't have such a terrible name

Suse was originally an acronym for "Software und System-Entwicklung" - would you rather have that ?

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Re: Re: If only it (LibreOffice) didn't have such a terrible name

Yup. Linux kernel names are way more sensible. Looking at the current version:

$ grep NAME Makefile

NAME = Saber-toothed Squirrel

Hmm. That's odd. Let's look at some older ones ...

$ git checkout v3.1 -- Makefile ; grep NAME Makefile

NAME = "Divemaster Edition"

see - that's not silly (bizarely not connected to operating systems, but not silly)

$ git checkout v3.0 -- Makefile ; grep NAME Makefile

NAME = Sneaky Weasel

Oops - silly again

$ git checkout v2.6.39 -- Makefile ; grep NAME Makefile

NAME = Flesh-Eating Bats with Fangs

Hmmm - Ok - perhaps Linux kernel versions *are* silly.

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Anonymous Coward

@b166er

Who needs office for Tux? LaTeX + R does all that any office package does and does it in a vastly superior way.

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@Tony Gregory

Errm, shurely you need Gnumeric, tpp and IRC too?

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Happy

Gnumeric?

Surely you mean sc or (gasp) Oleo!

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Happy

@ everyone

You guys must be talking about emacs+Latex+ whatever. Actually, even the emacs's own reverse polish calc is quite awesome.

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Angel

Re: @ everyone

I'm Acting Secretary for the volunteer organization I belong to. The previous officers all distributed Word documents but started using PDF once .docx hit. I use emacs+XeLaTeX to directly generate PDF's of all the monthly documents and have received tons of praise for how nice the reports are now. With some nifty "modes" emacs has made me far more productive than I ever was using Word or any other "word processor" and everyone has something which can display PDF's no matter how old or unusual their computer, even my FreeBSD systems.

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Maybe it will finally happen

With IBM pumping out no cost, ODF Lotus Symphony (OpenOffice), Oracle pushing OpenOffice (sort of) and SUSE/RH with their Libre deal, maybe the ODF and no cost productivity software will finally take off. It is crazy that people still pay $400 for productivity software.

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Re: Maybe it will finally happen

Why is it crazy? $400 is less than a professional gets paid in one day... and in reality you pay far less per license.

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Re: Maybe it will finally happen

It's crazy that people still pay (anything) to have a new office document file format installed; that will then annoy the hell out of everyone they work with by causing them to need an upgrade. While we're at it, I may as well mention how much us Linuxtards loath people who fling their .docx turds around completely oblivious to how inconsiderate it is.

Here's a tip:

If you want me to edit it, send it in a non-proprietary format.

If you don't want me to edit it, send it as pdf, ps, or other non-proprietary format.

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Re: Re: Maybe it will finally happen

"$400 is less than a professional gets paid in one day"

In this depressed European market? Where and what sort of professional?

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Anonymous Coward

"people still pay $400 for productivity software."

It's not even "productivity" software, is it? I can't help think that actually if people didn't have PPT and Word but had a few doctypes and a Visual Notepad equivalent instead, and focused on content rather than presentation, we'd ALL get more work done.

Does anybody anywhere ever pay list price for Office, or does list price exist only in the minds of MS marketing executives and their channel equivalents, and so that corporate purchasing departments can be lied to about how much money they've "saved" by signing an extra extra special multi-year discount deal with their local certified Microsoft dependent corporate reseller?

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Re: "people still pay $400 for productivity software."

I have to agree here, for confidentiality reasons I cannot publish how much our company pay for office licences but I can say that is no where near 400$. MS Office itself is not a major cost per employee.

MS Office is not free but is not that expensive either when you consider how much use it actually gets in the workplace.

The free office versions suffer from the same problem as Linux., it's free but nobody wants it except the geeks.

Why, because Microsoft have always aimed their products at business rather than home users and they are very good at what they do in terms marketing strategy, EASL licencing deals, business support, one point of contact for the business, covering most of the business software needs etc...

Most of the geeks look at software from a users point of view, you have to see it from a business point of view and the pendulum starts to swing differntly.

I am not a MS advocate but what other company is capable of providing the same requirements in a similar package.

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Re: "people still pay $400 for productivity software."

I agree 100% with your comment regarding the discounted prices.

If my company had to pay $400 per copy of MS Office and lacking free / cheaper alternatives we would have been working with pen and paper instead.

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Re: "people still pay $400 for productivity software."

Whether you really need or just think you need MS Office it can only be a good thing that there is choice. Choice in OS, software is good. NOBODY would put up with just one car manufacturer, supermarket, etc.

I used MS Office for years at work but find that LibreOffice is just fine for personal use. It may be a little slower or be missing some features at the moment but as I run 6 PCs I certainly find that zero cost is a big incentive. In any case I'm all Linux so Office isn't an option even if I felt the need.

I do know that LibreOffice copes far better with reading old or odd formats of data and that I will not have massive upgrade costs and upheaval when the next version comes out - unlike MS Office.

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Facepalm

Not just about MS

What about sticking it to Oracle a bit cos of the whole itanium thing?

I may be confused, however... OOO is Apache, can't remember the Oracle connection, hence facepalm, pre-emptively

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Interesting

Intel is pushing LibreOffice

Oz is mumbling about Open Standards

The EU grumble periodically about Open Standards

Hungary (and the Dutch?) have got for ODF.

Is the panic beginning to set in at Redmond?

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Interesting

Office is licensed to millions via Corporate contracts. Companies blindly license Office - a so called "no brainer". Office will dominate for the next 10 years at least and hence Microsoft will be making a profit until then (a new OS will prompt people to get their wallets out as well but Office is the cash cow).

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Anonymous Coward

"a new OS will prompt people to get their wallets out "

That used to be the case.

The XP->Vista transition broke that rule. Lots of corporates are still quite happy with XP.

"Office is licensed to millions via Corporate contracts"#

Yeah, and how many of them are paying for the right to use The Ribbon while still using Office 98? OK I exaggerate, but only slightly.

It may not be this way forever. MS's profits are so intertwined with the MS ecosystem of certified Microsoft dependent business partners that if a few of the 'partners' start going "off message" because punters no longer like the message and see better value elsewhere, the whole house of cards could topple surprisingly quickly.

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Re: "a new OS will prompt people to get their wallets out "

Yes, you do exaggerate. It's Office 2003/XP not 98.

Actually, that's not even a joke...

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Pint

On the other hand

How could Intel join a close source Microsoft Office.

And Intel has been a fairly good citizen regarding open source for a long time.

If you join something it will hardly be something closed you join.

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Unhappy

I wanted to like LibreOffice...

Tried to use it in a small office situation, but it was so riddled with bugs of every kind, and the killing blow was its interoperability with MS Office 2010 docx/xlsx format was terrible. (Documents edited in LIBO ended up with severe errors or wouldn't even open at all sometimes in MSO2010)

No matter how much I may like the product, if I can't send documents to other people who are inevitably married to MS products and expect them to be able to open/edit them, it's a showstopper.

I still have it on one of my boxes but I'm lucky I only use it there for the simplest tasks, and typically don't require collaborating with the inevitable MS-using masses.

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Anonymous Coward

Can I download this version without installing AppUp?

The version of LO from libreoffice.org registers itself as:

LibreOffice 3.5 (en-US,af,ar,as,ast,be,bg,bn,bo,br,brx,bs,ca,ca-XV,cs,cy,da,de,dgo,dz,el,en-GB,en-ZA,eo,es,et,eu,fa,fi,fr,ga,gd,gl,gu,he,hi,hr,hu,id,is,it,ja,ka,kk,km,kn,ko,kok,ks,ku,lb,lo,lt,lv,mai,mk,ml,mn,mni,mr,my,nb,ne,nl,nn,nr,nso,oc,om,or,pa-IN,pl,pt,pt-BR,ro,ru,rw,sa-IN,sat,sd,sh,si,sk,sl,sq,sr,ss,st,sv,sw-TZ,ta,te,tg,th,tn,tr,ts,tt,ug,uk,uz,ve,vi,xh,zh-CN,zh-TW,zu) (OOO350(Build:13))

I thought I might try this Major language version from Intel, but it looks like I have to install AppUp first?

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