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Late Sunday, the sun aimed a huge coronal mass ejection (CME) at our planet, along with a "solar energetic particle" event – the largest since September 2005 – which is expected to cause a solar storm of highly energetic protons to hit us on Tuesday at 9am Eastern Time, plus or minus seven hours. The solar storm, according to …

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Anonymous Coward

Don't look at the light display in the sky, unless you want to wake up blind the next day and find that your geraniums have taken over the world.

BTW — "...Tuesday at 9am Eastern Time..."

What the hell does that mean in proper UTC/GMT? ie. the global standard —not bloody Moosejaw Creek, Arkansas time. I swear the Reg is getting more Americanised every day!

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Windows

Exactly what I was going to comment on!

Put it in standard, internationally recognised time, please, El. Reg.

Otherwise we'll all have to sit on a bridge over a stream, grow big ears, and play a banjo. Then 'squeal like a piggie'.

(With apologies to the writer of "Deliverance")

OTOH, as I live in Finland, I'll look forward to a grand night out. Once I figure out what "Eastern Time" means...

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Huh?

You can't be blinded watching the Northern Lights.. it's not the sun you're watching but a magnetic reaction to solar activity. The only possible harm you can get from watching the Northern Lights is to be beaten by your wife (or girlfriend) when you wake them up at 5am to watch it too.

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Happy

Er...

and you won't be killed by yer geraniums either....

Did you hear that woosh?

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Awesome idea

We have el Reg units for everything else, let's use Moosejaw Creek, Arkansas as the official El Reg timezone.

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Eastern Standard Time ...

EST is UTC - 5, so add 5 hours to get UTC.

You can get all time zone names and their UTC offsets here

http://www.worldtimezone.com/wtz-names/timezonenames.html

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Will Universal Time do?

14:18 UT* (+/- 7 hours), as per

http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=23&month=01&year=2012

*call it GMT if you like...

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EST UTC - 5 hours

The post is required, and must contain letters.

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North and West

Y'all gots the wrong'a timezone state and country y'all doo. Y'all meant Moose Jaw, Sasskatchetoon. That'd be the centrawl zone of north America! Jes liek the blessed land of Arkansaw. Shoot, y'awl 'taint bin nowheres me thinks!

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> You can get all time zone names and their UTC offsets here

No you can't.

There's no mention of the Moosejaw Creek meridian there.

Vic.

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UTC - 5

Does that mean it will hit England first? Will we know we are OK if blighty makes it through the night?

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@ Steve McPolin

So if the proton burst causes the hungry dead to rise from their graves, they will be taking over London first! Y'all better get down to the Winchester Arms then!!

Poor zombies, first they die, then they are re-animated but have nothing to eat but English food!

And the downvotes begin....right......now!

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> And the downvotes begin....right......now!

What - after mentioning the Winchester?

Vic.

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I suppose that should be "Americanized".

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yeah, thanks for that. Very useful.....

... Because even your own reference says that "EST" can be one of three different time zones, and doesn't even list "Eastern time". So which EST are you referring to? Why even mention EST, it's not mentioned in the article?

As for the article, what is "Eastern time" anyway? The time in China?

The standard use of GMT/UTC/Zulu removes all ambiguity.

When I was back in Oz I pointed out to the ANZ bank their use of "EST" in their online banking service. Thing was, they kept using "EST" even when the times they were quoting were blatantly daylight (EDT) times. They changed to saying "Melbourne time" which at least removed the ambiguity.

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@madra

I agree with the sentiment that it should have been at least followed by a UTC reference

But! I must point out that Moose Jaw is located in Saskatchewan, Canada and is on CST-6.

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The "Don't look" comment was a tiny humorous reference to the well-known science fiction story [The Day of the Triffids], in which carnivorous plants terrorise a population... that was mostly blinded by, well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_of_the_Triffids

"The narrative begins with Bill Masen in hospital, his eyes bandaged after having been splashed with droplets of triffid venom in a lab accident. During his convalescence he is told of the unexpected and beautiful green meteor shower that the entire world is watching. He awakes the next morning to a silent hospital and learns that the light from the unusual display has rendered any who watched it completely blind." Perhaps not straight away, or you'd stop. "Later on in the book Masen again theorises that both the 'meteor shower' and subsequent plague may have been an orbiting government weapons' system that was triggered accidentally." But, remember, he's a triffid farmer - or was - anyway, what does he know?

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What is it in Owl Stretching Time?

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Owl Streching Time

I think its ten past twoo

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register

Of similar note, one of the new kids at work had never seen Carpenter's "The Thing". Just what do they teach kids these days?

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"Just what do they teach kids these days?"

Too busy watching Paris....

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Now

where my lead pants?

oh and please post GMT/UTC times, thank you

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To all asking for UTC/GMT: that suits you because you are in the ol' UK, while for me EST is just fine. Why not use the Mongolian time, whatever that is, so that everyone will have to calculate something.

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see that .co.uk bit?

It's not a badly spelled anagram.

Just sayin'.

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Boffin

Even from Aus.

I'd prefer GMT to be used. It is far easier to add the time adjustment from zero than some arbitrary offset where the article author happenes to live.

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Raz

I was betting on this. I actually got here from theregister.com :)

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Not to mention that we have an "Eastern" timezone here too. Well actually we have two of them, one with daylight savings and one without.

When people quote random US based timezones they usually get the day wrong too. Not our fault them there Merkins live in yesterday.

Hence I'll vote for UTC/GMT which is not the same as BaSTard time.

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Badly spelled anagram?

As the librarian might say, "ouck! ouck!"

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"Why not use the Mongolian time, whatever that is, so that everyone will have to calculate something." Well the people who live in Monfolia wouldn't, there are people there you know. I know, there is no oil there, so you probably wouldn't have a clue...

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@Raz

"I was betting on this. I actually got here from theregister.com :)"

And you do know that .com doesn't mean "America", or even "United States of"? GMT/UTC is the International standard for recording time, it's not some prissy Brit thing - in fact funnily enough, GMT/UTC runs all the way down the prime meridian and is the time zone of many countries. It's also a lot easier to calculate from one reference point instead of two.

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@LaeMing

Except, according to his byline, the author is in San Francisco, which is three timezones west of Eastern Time. So it's rather puzzling as to why he mentioned Eastern Time at all.

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Headmaster

Oook!

I think you'll find that the correct spelling is "ook", "oook" or even "eek"

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> I was betting on this. I actually got here from theregister.com :)

And what's in your address bar now - .com or .co.uk ?

Vic.

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it's reg dot co dot U FUCKING K that's why it's G FUCKING M FUCKING T

egads, the horror, the horror

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Next they will want us to spell everything with a 'Zee'!

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I tried to visualise this, and I'm pretty sure it violates the 'extreme porn' law.

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ize/ise etc.

-ize is actually original British English. We've only recently started using -ise, the burger eating warmongers have just hung on to it.

Inspector Morse even uses it to solve a murder.

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Happy

Optional

And don't even get me started about Daylight Savings Time!

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You mean,

Night-time wasting?

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Paris Hilton

Solar Sails

I'm sorry that my astro-physics is weak. I kind of understand that you can make a spacecraft go by pressure from particles emitted by the sun. Does this work like garlic - a little is good, so more is better? Can we make some sort of sail that takes advantage of these events? One day to mars is pretty intriguing.... Or would it just blow teensy holes through the sail and leave us ejecting the horses to try to get home?

Paris, because I don't have a clue either.

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Solar sails

Yes and no. You can make a solar sail, it will get thrust from the solar wind (and also from the sunlight falling on it), but the amount of thrust you will get is very small - you'd get more delta-V (more speed) from just putting the same mass of extra fuel on the craft as from the mass of the sail.

It *might* work out better for a really long trip, say to Jupiter or further out, but not really as well to Mars.

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more delta-V = more speed?

I thought delta V was acceleration.

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I'd imagine delta V is 'rate of change of velocity', which could be acceleration but could equally be deceleration or simply change of direction.

mine's the one with pedants weekly in the pocket

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erm... not 'rate of change', just change in velocity. The point that it's not necessarily acceleration stands, just for different reasons.

phew! think i got that in time to save my pedants club membership.

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Delta V is acceleration

So with more delta V you get more more speed.

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yes, unless you get less speed.

change in speed is not always the same as increase in speed. Still, acceleration can be positive or negative so that's ok. The real issue is that acceleration is change in velocity per second whereas delta v is simply change in velocity (or speed, delta v can generally be used as a scalar or linear quantity). So while delta V can't really be said to be acceleration we could probably get away with saying acceleration is delta v per second.

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Oh, noes

Acceleration is dv/dt, a rate of change of velocity with time.

Delta-v is (roughly) the scalar sum of velocity changes which happened on the way from one point to another.

The difference between the two is like the difference between speed and distance traveled.

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Delta-v

It's not that hard to find out instead of guessing... It's not acceleration, nor deceleration (which is the same thing).

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+delta-v

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No

With more delta V in the direction you are travelling, you get acceleration, more delta V in the opposite direction provides deceleration. Have none of you ever resolved forces?

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Re: Delta-v

> It's not that hard to find out instead of guessing

It's a delta, right, in the v, right, hence the name "delta v".

</holly>

Vic.

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