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A programmer faces imminent execution in Iran after the country's supreme court upheld his conviction for "developing and promoting pornographic websites". Saeed Malekpour, 36, was convicted on the basis of a televised confession he later retracted in a letter sent from prison. His family argue Malekpour made the supposed …

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Anonymous Coward

Really sucks to be a dual citizen and Iranian

Iranian-Canadian reporter beaten to death in prison

Iranian-US soldier in prison for spying

Iranian-French actress banned from visiting Iran

and now this guy.

If I were an Iranian living and working in another country, I would make very sure that I never ever went home.

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Anonymous Coward

Sense

This man speaks it.

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Anonymous Coward

Agreed

Hell, as a non-Iranian Iran is on my list of "Never, ever visit".

The missus has also added China to that list on my behalf as she feel's I'd be quite likely to open my mouth and get in some serious trouble.

The list now contains a huge number of countries, I'm just hoping it won't grow as I see it as more of a reflection on those countries (i.e. how they handle dissent) than on my unerring ability to put my foot in my mouth

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And the message is clear, from the Iranian government side: "Iranian people, see what happens when Iranians get exposed to Evil foreign influences?"

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Re: Agreed

Are you Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh? Can I claim my £5?

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@theblackhand

Afraid I'm not! Suspect the list may not be long enough for him either.

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Ru

"Never, ever visit"

I suspect you may miss out.

Iran is on my list of countries to visit when there's a good chance of me coming back again. Syria, too. Its an amazing part of the world, and all we seem to get is a crazily distorted view of the people courtesy of their government.

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Funny that. Iran is one of the top 5 countries I want to go to but haven't yet had the chance. Very interesting country, birthplace of civilization etc.

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@Ru - And courtesy of our Western governemnts too.

cause they are not quite white knights either.

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@ Never, ever visit

If by amazing you mean, bunch of backwards arsed idiots with no spine to let this kind of "justice" prevail in the modern world, then yes I agree.

I'm going to hell when I die anyway... no need to visit the middle east, send me a postcard.

Hate to break it to you but no, this is not a distorted view, a place and its society is reflected by the rules and penalties that society lives under - their government. Any illusion of freedom is always mitigated by consequences like death.

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Mushroom

@ Never, ever visit

Someone once said: "a nation has the government it deserves" or something along those lines

It's hard to prove it as either true or false, but the empirical experience, all over the world, seems to back it up...

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@Tom 38

Well it may be the "birthplace of civilization etc."...but is is still stuck there.

As General Curtis LeMay so nicely put it, someone should..."...bomb them back into the Stone Age."

What's that? They're still living in the Stone Age? Never mind then.

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@JC 2

You are so clueless it isn't even funny. No spine? Coming from, in all probability, a cosseted little Westerner writing their dissenting little words of rebellion from the comfort of their home protected from the threat of torture and abduction by their Government that is pretty rich. Most nations ruled by dictators look backwards as it seems easier to keep control of a population by letting them have fuck all.

"Hate to break it to you but no, this is not a distorted view, a place and its society is reflected by the rules and penalties that society lives under - their government."

If so, are all Americans c*nts? No, of course not. Likewise, Iranians probably choose their moments to speak out knowing full well that such a society has unknown numbers of spies and whistleblowers living in their midst. I doubt I'd be too vocal if I knew one wrong word meant the torture of myself and/or my family, and I firmly suspect the same holds true for you.

The Syrians don't seem to like their Government much but it doesn't seem to be working out too well for them does it?

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Anonymous Coward

"birthplace of civilization"

Civilization was born there, but then it grew up and left to live somewhere else.

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Lucky he didnt

Make a website for Dalziel as well

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Oh dear.

If only he had coded it in such a way as to only allow decent pictures to be uploaded.

He knew the law and he made his choice. He's probably lucky that the MPAA isn't trying to extradite him the the US for making software that could be used to infringe copyright.

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Did you actually RTFA?

"He knew the law and he made his choice"

AFAIK there's no law against writing software to allow you to upload pictures. That someone used his code without him knowing on porn sites is hardly something he can be held liable for.

Rat poison is often used in murder, should the manufacturers of that poision be up for life as well (which is still better than execution)?

I'd say he'd be very lucky if the MPAA kicked down the door and extradited him tomorrow. They may be a bunch of cunts, but at least they won't execute him.

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Time for another invasionary mission by the US on those grounds?

Or MIGHT they then show us their nuclear power?

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Re: Oh dear

The guy lived in Canada, he was only in Iran to visit his sick father. Even then: is writing a tool to upload pictures, which is subsequently used by others to upload porn really a good reason to imprison let alone execute someone? (IMHO there is never a good reason to execute someone).

Lets execute Vint Cerf for creating TCP/IP as it is used for transferring 'orrible things around the world (and not to forget: IP infringment), and lets not forget Tim Berners-Lee for creating that abomination called the World Wide Web! Put them to death for all atrocities other people committed with their inventions/products!

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@ Oh dear

Words fail me.

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RE:Time for another invasionary mission by the US on those grounds?

You know at least this time if they did do somthing it would be for a better cause than oil...just sayin!

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@Crofty616

Yes, because Iran has no oil reserves to speak of, no-one could ever think of some other pretext to invade just to get it.

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"!I'd say he'd be very lucky if the MPAA kicked down the door and extradited him tomorrow. They may be a bunch of cunts, but at least they <b>can't</b> execute him."

I wouldn't put it past some of them to be looking at Iran and thinking 'if only'.

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@Sir R S

Of course Iran has oil reserves.

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RE: Oh dear

What scares me is not just the original post but that 2 people apparently agreed with it. What the fuckitting fuck? PLEASE tell me they didn't actually RTFA.

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> Of course Iran has oil reserves.

Not quite got the hang of irony yet, have you?

Vic.

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Certainly not! How can they extort money out of the man if he was dead?

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Lucky

If he got extradited to the US, that would be the luckiest thing that could happen to him.

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Trollface

Obvious

Obvious troll is obvious.

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I could be wrong here, but...

Really, I think thus is what happens when we stop A.C. from using the J/K icon.

-d

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Evil Empires

"The use of vaguely worded charges is not new in Iran, but the allegation that these were carried out on the internet is. It is an unwelcome addition to the catalogue of ways in which Iran finds it can execute its own citizens"

Substitute "USA" for "Iran" and "imprison" for "execute" and "other countries" for "its own"

Thank God the land of 'freee-daaam' and 'deee-maaa-cracy' would never behave thus!

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"The use of vaguely worded charges is not new in USA, but the allegation that these where carried out on the internet is. It is an unwelcome addition to the catalog of ways in which USA finds it can imprison other countries citizens"

wow... by replacing a few words you can make a coherent statement about Iran's attempt to execute someone for writing software someone used to make a porn-site into an incoherent attempt at an anti American mess.

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Err...

I'm personally totally against the death penalty, but there is a whole load of difference between:

Execution for: Being raped, homosexuallity, changing religion etc. etc.

and

Being tried and found guilty of murder.

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Anonymous Coward

MPAA? - the collective noun for a bunch of.. Oh never mind.

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...but...

If all he did was write the software and didn't upload any of the smut then he's innocent!

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@AC 13:48

But if he hadn't written that software, then there wouldn't be any smut on the internet!

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Re: ...but...

according to one of the muslims in my office (who is surprised by the judgment), to his knowledge: the guy is innocent. The example he gave is: if someone stole a knife from your home and then used it to stab someone, are you liable for the stabbing?

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@AC 1414h

Not sure. In the book 'Midnight Express' there's an example of a guy* who was declared guilty in a traffic accident in Turkey. The other driver** was drunk and hit his car, which he had parked legally on the side of the road. Apparently it was decided on the basis that if his car had not been there in the first place, then the other driver, drunk or not, would not have had the accident. Must be some Sharia law thing. Go figure.

*foreign, French or such, and Unbeliever.

**local citizen of proper religious views.

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by that logic

the the owners of Megaupload are innocent, because they themselves didnt actually upload copyrighted material. Yet the US can force New Zealand into arresting them and extradite them to face charges in the US.

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@ZagZee

Problem is the US appear to have copies of emails showing the Megaupload crowd possibly helping others trying to infringe copyright, but more directly talking about infringing copyright themselves as well as harvesting data from youtube.

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"political pawn by hardliners ahead of March presidential elections in the country."

a politician is trying to hang someone (an innocent man at that) to boost his* campaign..... if it works then there is more to worry about in Iran then this case!

* I'll have to assume that it is not "her" campaign!

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Re: "a politician is trying to hang someone

" (an innocent man at that) to boost his* campaign....."

Still, at least nothing like that would happen in a civilised country like America...

... erm...

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Poor sod, sign the petition - it might help

http://www.gopetition.com/petition/40162/sign.html

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"....supposed admissions of wrongdoing under duress; they say he had spent a year in solitary confinement in Tehran's Evin prison, was beaten and was told of threats against his relatives."

Oh, WOW what an enlightened, tolerant and eductated scoiety they live in!

Their religious beliefs must be very pro life/human rights.

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Anonymous Coward

Yes, after all...

...in a truly enlightened, tolerant and eductated scoiety like, say, the USA they wouldn't do things like that, would they?

Just remind me - how long did they keep Bradley Manning in solitary, how long have they kept people in Gitmo...

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Raped then battered to death

Mistreated manning may be, however he does not face a prolonged painful death at the hands of sadistic stone-throwers.

Lovely Sharia!

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"...in a truly enlightened, tolerant and eductated scoiety like, say, the USA they wouldn't do things like that, would they?"

I knew someone would say something along those lines. God bless the Reg forums; they never disappoint.

No society is perfect. Every society without exception does grotesque things in the name of justice. I seem to recall it wasn't that long ago you guys on your side of the pond were apologizing for thanking Alan Turing for helping to win WWII by throwing him in prison for the crime of homosexuality, after which he was, if I recall correctly, hounded to death.

Every society has an imperfect system of justice, no question about it.

However, to score political points off the US or the UK or other countries by playing off a guy who's set to be *executed for writing file uploader software* strikes me as a bit crass. No society is perfect, but that doesn't mean all societies are therefore equal in the way they treat their citizens.

Yes, the Bradley Manning thing is a shameful and inexcusable debacle, no question about it. There's that, and then there's *executing a guy for writing file uploader software*. I know which one my money says is worse, and given a choice between living in, say, the US or the UK, and living in Iran, I know which one I'd pick in a heartbeat.

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And they have the

UTTER temerity to profess to being a civilised society...

Barbarians....Nothing more.......

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I'm guessing

the down vote was from a spanner whom would have your hands cut off for nicking a copy of "Tits" from Mr. McNobby's girly mag shop....

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