So the current situation is exactly the same as last week, i.e. no treaty, but this week that lack of treaty is more dangerous?
The boffins who run the Doomsday Clock – an estimate of how close humanity is to annihilation by climate change or nuclear war - have just moved the minute hand one minute closer to midnight. Invented by the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists (BAS) in 1947, the clock represents nuclear danger with midnight representing the end of …
It's an acknowledgement of the situation
As private Fraser used to say:
We're doomed! Doomed!! DOOMED!!
Fill this [ news space ]
Fukishima had a catastrophic meltdown that didn't kill anyone, and the climate shows no significant warming since 1998.
But of course they have to put out their annual scaremongering press release.
Thankyou, The Bulletin of Attention-seeking Bedwetters.
@Mme.MynkoffYou do realise that one of the reasons that climate change deniers hate being called deniers is that they claim that noone actually says that the climate is staying the same. As it happens: Go forward or back a year and you'll see a significant warming trend. 1998 was the last El Ninio, ie: it was hotter. This year, IIRC, is a La Nina ie: Cooler - there is a big issue if a years expected to be cooler are only as cool as the last year expected to be hotter.
markfiendActually the unedited numbers show we have been in a period of global temperature decline for the last 16 years.
Lingo"Fukishima had a catastrophic meltdown that didn't kill anyone" Doesn't it have to be a catastrophy to be "catastrophic"? Last I checked, Fukishima was a partial meltdown, but no where near a "catastrophy" such as Chernobyl.... As for climate change, the polarization is whether humans are causing it or not. Perhaps the argument should be "no significant [human-caused] warming." Just because our models are flawed (they don't take into account all environmental factors, so you can't say they are not), doesn't mean they're wrong; just inaccurate. It's the fact that our current temperatures are not where they were projected to be that should be more conclusive.
Cyclic deniersAgain with the Global Climate Cyclic Denialism commentards on elreg? Paris, like the Sahara Desert, she was once lush, too. Wait, isn't she still a lush?
No they don't.
If you're going to make comments like that you really need to cite sources, so they can then be torn apart.
Go forward or back a yearAt 88 miles an hour??
"I have also heard the climate research fundraisers equate "climate change deniers" to Nazis."
I have heard there are unicorns on the moon.
That's twice in recent days I've heard this from a denier/sceptic, I have never heard it from any other source.
I wonder if this is a new tactic in the increasingly desperate attempts to win the argument?
U sir are insane.
Correct me if I am wrong
Is there some major reason, other than financial gain, for which we cannot simply begin to implement a reduction in the number of people on the planet. I don't mean some mass destruction of populations, I mean simply a one child per household kind of policy.
There was a time where it was necassary to have 7 children in order to have some hope of surviving, today that issue no longer holds.
Isn't it also about time that the supposed "religous leaders" stood up and made a commitment to allowing for contraception. I can't really believe that the great Sky Fairy intended for us to destroy the earth through over-population.
Why are the governments doing nothing and don't give me that "but who will pay for the future generations" crap.
Think how many problems would be resolved simply by reducing the population. There would be more farmland/food to go around, the available natural energies would last longer, we would automatically reduce pollution and waste, the forests would begin to grow/increase.
I really hate these false claims that Nuclear is bad, Global Warming is destroying the earth, there are not enough resources etc These problems can be resolved by simply stopping the over population of the earth.
The capatalistic diatribe to which have become accustomed will not resolve anything other than filling the pockets of those that presume they will be dead and gone or protected before the real problems actually begin.
I wonder how far away from WW3 we really are.
( I hate Wednesdays)
...in the first-world. The answer is education, i.e. get the kids in the third world into school. After a generation or so, things will sort themselves out.
However with the kids in school, there will be no one in the factories making your T-shirts for £5 or new training shoes (which you *will* moan about), no money coming into child's household (because the child is not working) and the situation will worsen.
The answer to that is to pair a fair price and fine the hell out of companies using child labour and jail the execs who have worker's activists executed (we all know which companies these are).
All that hits the bottom line and share prices, can't have that! So it's much easier for us to profit from selling arms to dictators, having wars, securing oil and ensuring the status quo.
"Is there some major reason, other than financial gain, for which we cannot simply begin to implement a reduction in the number of people on the planet. I don't mean some mass destruction of populations, I mean simply a one child per household kind of policy."
1. Who is 'we' that would impose such a policy?
2. How would this policy be enforced?
I see your point and indeed agree largely. My reason against a one child policy is personal freedom. And there are undesirable side effects (cp. China and women/men ratio). An obvious and likewise undesirable solution would be WW3.
As alternative means for population decrease we should discuss other solutions. How about a child tax -in contrast to child allowance- to cover for all the external costs a human being is likely to cause in its life time? To be effective, such a tax has to be imposed on the parents close to birth (e.g. during the first ten years).
Other ideas are welcome!