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CES 2012 Week Netgear is upgrading its compact powerline Ethernet adaptor line to 500Mb/s operation - not only that but the next-gen powerline spec IEEE 1901 into the bargain. The Powerline Nano 500 isn't Netgear's first 500Mb/s adaptor, but it is rather smaller, taking up 67 per cent of the space that the previous model does …

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So

How much EMI/RFI does it create and on what bands?

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Enough to make the bovril-starched beard hairs of radio hams stand on end, a-quivering with ludditiary rage at a guess.

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I almost pissed myself laughing....

Such a new and refreshing stereotype, Mike. Real comic mastery shining through.

And the use of the shouty icon too! Pure genius!

Mike, don't quit the day job :) I'd also suggest that you read and understand what the word "luddite" means before using it.

I almost pissed myself...but then I didn't...

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It's not about having a beard and being called a luddite

It's the fact that these things broadcast illegal amounts of inteference and the government body that is supposed to regulate this sort of thing is being paid off or just flat out ignoring the problem, even when the GCHQ spooks are telling them that it's a problem.

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DON'T BUY THESE RF GENERATORS

I can't believe the irresponsible journalism here.

These devices FUCK ALL OVER THE AIRWAVES. Have some FUCKING RESPECT for radio operators.

Jesus Christ.

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@Anon 16

I now want to buy a whole raft of them.

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Fuck the radio operators.

My parents live in an old Italian pile that has walls over six feet thick. Bits of it were literally just carved out of the rock, rather than 'built', so some rooms have foundations six feet _above_ the nominal ground floor level.

There's a local rodent problem, which makes cabling tricky: one long Cat 6 cable run only lasted six months before getting a good chewing, despite the family dog doing his level best to keep the rat, mouse and mole population at bay; not helped by the fact that some parts of the cable had to run along the external wall to reach the other side of the house. WiFi is also of limited value: the walls and floors are just too damned thick.

So, I've tried both the traditional cabled approach, and the WiFi routers / access points approach, but neither has proven particularly successful at covering the whole property. These Netgear devices could well be the perfect solution, though how long it'll be before they make an appearance over here is anybody's guess. (How much they'll cost is pretty obvious: just swap the $ for a € and add 25%.)

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ok....

You don't like the item being reviewed - doesn't make it "irresponsible journalism". And swearing rather undermines your point. Yes these do fire out a lot of radio interference, but in terms of sheer numbers how many radio ops are actually inconveinienced by one household's use of powerline wifi?

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I came for the lolz

and comments here doth surely provide.

Dear Jesus, I look forwards to receiving my porn streamer on your next birthday.

PS if you need to indiscriminately broadcast to whoever it is that might be listening try using twatter much less interference..

I'll be showing As much respect for those radio folk as the b*stard CB'ers who destroyed both my R/C aircraft in the late 70's..

(*not really.. its just a wind up for teh lolz.)

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Megaphone

I detect a pipe has been spat out into a cup of bovril

I can't believe the irresponsible radio hams! Their radio waves FUCK OVER MY CARRIER PIGEONS and their magnetic homing. Have some FUCKING RESPECT for carrier pigeon operators. Jesus Christ
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Radio hams are .. killing the bees!

And it's not like radio hams are communicating anything useful. Kinda like twitter at 1 billionth of the message volume, where the letters get garbled and smudged, and restricted to chat about beards, pipe tobacco and 'old people staples' like bad health, the weather, the good old days (before powerline adapters/ the war)
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"Have some FUCKING RESPECT for radio operators."

Why? What have they done that's deserving of respect? How have they earned it?

You don't hear philatelists demanding 'FUCKING RESPECT' for their hobby, so why should you demand it for yours?

Besides, as I point out in previous post, not everyone lives in a fucking urban environment. My parents can't get a mobile phone signal, a terrestrial TV signal, or any other kind of fucking radio signal, so I very much doubt their use of power line networking kit would cause anyone any headaches.

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Hey Sean, fuck you too.

Regarding respect for radio operators, you might want to do some research on the efforts of radio amateurs during 9/11 and the Tsunami's.

Pull your thumb out of your ass and look at ways of protecting a cable run. Pretend, if you will, that PLT didn't exist....

Fuck your parents too. I'd piss myself if a plane twatted itself into their home :)

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OOooooh

Get you hoo.

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Lies, Damned Lies and Media Spin

So.

There are well know examples of powerline kit causing interference. Many early systems lacked any sort of standard, and emissions were wide and strong.

Is this still the case?

Are the current offerings still such a huge polluter?

Are any manufacturers better than the others?

Now that would be a piece of journalism...

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Indeed

"Now that would be a piece of journalism..." When I last looked, there was very little information about how IEEE1901 compliant kit was the same, worse or better than the older kit. *If* any kit out there doesn't have this problem, it would be nice to know it could be recommended, guilt-free, so to speak, where PLT is the only or best solution. C'mon Reg, how 'bout it? :)
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Whoa whoa whoa

Don't you all think the anger is getting to be a little excessive?

For a moment I thought I had clicked on the wrong link and opened the vi vs emacs forum.

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