Back in the day you had to resort to a cabinet-sized rear projection TV if you wanted to watch Dallas on anything larger than a 37in CRT. Thankfully times have changed. Technically advanced, visually stunning super-screens are now the order of the day from every major brand. You need only oust some living room essentials – sofa …
Stock photos! Why? Stop! Now!
Please for the love of God stop using manufacturers stock photos for all your reviews.
If these TV's were reviewed properly then they must have been set up in a room somewhere, possibly a room resembling a living room. Would it be too mush trouble to get a photo of each one. Then we could see what it looks like in an actual living room.
This of course assumes that the review wasn't carried out by visiting a local branch of currys and hastily making some notes before being kicked out by the manager.
You want an Ikea catalog, not Reg Hardware
" Then we could see what it looks like in an actual living room."
So, you want a panoramic view of a some journos sitting room with a TV in the corner? Maybe in a full review with space for multiple images but even then a shot of a telly in a lounge will give me no idea of what it will look like in my front room which will have different furniture, a different color scheme, different lighting sources, be a different size etc etc etc etc.
Reg - please ignore this gimp and stick with the stock images. Some of us aren't just looking at the pictures.
what serious home cinema type has the TV in a corner?
TV should be straight facing you on a wall, especially with a 5.1/7.1 setup
What serious home cinema type uses a TV?
Home cinema is a front projection screen more then 80" or so, seating at 1.2x screen width, and with real surround sound, not that shit where the speakers come in the same box as the amplifier. Oh, and a pitch black room. Most theaters now seem to have 50 exit signs of street-light level brightness, but that sure as hell isn't in the specs. Neither is moonlight coming in your window! For christ's sake, people, it's just not the same when you see a reflection of your buddy opening the fridge, just as the joker is asking, "Why so serious?"! People, have some self-respect!
A television for a home theater?! I mean, really, when was the last time you went to the movies and they had a light transmitting display? You want to watch a movie, fine... a tv will work. If you want to watch it like the director intended, you need front projection, big-ass sound, a totally isolated, dedicated environment, and the first two calibrated to perfection. This does -not- mean setting 'cinema 1' and calling it a day. It's wrong. Throw that shit out, get a colorimeter, and learn to do it yourself.
See, that's "home theater enthusiast" - someone who wants to watch movies -right-. Having a kick-ass TV is just watching movies a bit less wrong.
It's not like non-home-theater people are stupid for not doing all that stuff, it's just that something set up in your living room with a TV just ain't home theater, any more than putting your netbook on the coffee table is good television.
Context is always important
BTW it's worth shopping round for the 5 year manufacturers guarantee on these things. My 50 inch Panasonic looks great but it's on it's 3rd panel.
I was considering the 55" VT30 plasma - now I'm worried !
whats the point in this when you dont even bother listing the screen size. out of all 10 only 1 mentioned size.. pointless, uesless and uniformative.. and yes how about putting them in real world environment... big sofa, pizza and 4 guys playing MW3 on em.
Except for the Philips, with every single one of the models here the screen size is the first two digits in the model name.
(Nobody cares about Philips anyway. Not even Amazon.)
Not hard to figure out.
Other than the 21:9 set the screen sizes of the other models are easy enough to figure out by reading the model numbers.
To me, the Philips is the only one that offers something interesting.
There's a hell of a lot more content available in 2.35:1 than in 3D. I've seen the 50" of this, and it was very impressive. So, unfortunately, was the price.
The screen diagonal is also the first two digits of the Philips model number, information that, one can only assume, was not on the press-pack. Anyway, for price hunters the 50" model is 50PFL7956. There's also a larger, higher spec model with a 58" diagonal, the 58PFL9956.
The wide aspect makes the set a lot shorter from top to bottom than those numbers would suggest, though. The 50 is only as tall as a 40~42" set, but obviously is wider.
i guessed the *50* etc was the screen size. thats pretty standard
I agree, ok I can work it out but if you are doing a review on big tellys then size should be in there as part of the review...
Size matters to Paris Hilton
@Nobody cares about Philips
Once you've owned an Ambilight television, you'll never want to own another set without it.
I've got the original Aurea by Philips, and while I don't dispute the better picture quality of more recent televisions from Philips and other manufacturers, the overall effect cannot be beaten (except by the Aurea II, of course).
Size not necessary
Size in model number is pretty much standard these days and easy to discern.
More important in these times would be the power rating and standby usage (which should be low in EU). Some of these TVs will be like storage heaters. The 65" VT65's figures are 311W and 0.30W respectively (454kWh annually - IEC 62087 Ed.2 measurement method). A 50" model in the same series has 190W, 0.3W (and 277kWh) respectively for comparison.
In the Toshiba review, does it actually have DVB-C2 (cable) tuners, or did you mean DVB-S2 (satellite) tuners?
"Ambilight - aka mood lighting for blokes"?
Bias lighting, surely.
No reception tests? Has the UK abandoned sending TV over the air? It was only a few years ago that most ATSC tuners were running buggy MPEG2 decoders downloaded off the 'net that would crash on a little multipath distortion.
Not a review
LCD panel uniformity issues abound. The Editor's pick 64 inch Plasma Sansung has Freesat + Freeview HD tuners, but you can't use them at the same time (i.e. with Picture in Picture - have to just use the one tuner). Also, the channel selection is slow.
The Panny VT30 - though it has the best blacks is apparently so dim you should consider a GT30 unless you're going to dim the room (not ideal for watching a football match in the Summer). The Pannys also have a stupid advertising feature on the EPG (honestly, why ?)
It's a beautiful screen and apart from the lack of DD/DTS on the Toslink, it's a joy to watch.
The complaints seem to stem from bad remote/menu UI, and 3D - but I still consider 3D a gimmick.
Any word on what you though about it?
That offer in full....
It can be found here, by the way:
Apparently available for another four days.
Blinding deal on the 60" Aquos
Currys currently have the 60" Aquos on offer at £999. As our old 47" LG just died messily, this seems like a bit of a hint. Seems like an awful lot of television for the money.
Quite amazing that something that size can run on 101w of power. I do so love the 21st century.
Editor's choice - rip off Britain
Your editor's choice of the Samsung PS64D8000 at 3000 pounds. Try circa $2,300 in the US so calculating FX at 1.5 + a 7% sales tax I guess this comes in at about 1800 pounds equivalent.
I guess there must be a reason ho hum...
FGS, What do they SOUND like?
You've said nothing about the sound, which is generally pretty dire from these things.
In any case why do we have to have everything in one package? It would be better just to have a screen to go onto the wall and the tuner and everything else (HDD, DVD/Blu-Ray, USB, etc.) in a separate box which can be connected to a sound system (surround if desired).
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