Four MPs have tabled a motion calling of Parliament to express "deep concern" about how videogame Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 allows players to "engage in gratuitous acts of violence against members of the public". The MPs are Keith Vaz (Labour, Leicester East), Bob Russell (Lib Dem, Colchester), Sir Alan Meale (Lab, …
Given the current US Insider Trading issues in Congress, does anyone know if any of the MP's making noise about this owns Activision stock???
If so, that should be publicly declared.
That made no sense
1. They are MPs from the UK, not US Congress.
2. Insider trading is banned for MPs in the UK.
3. If they were going to have the game banned, would it not make more sense to short the stock, rather than own it?
I say old bean, that's not the way one rolls in Parliament
Traditionally, one shills for a company and then accepts a directorship once ones tenure as an MP has concluded, but until that time only expensive dinners are acceptable as payment.
The one that definitely escaped corruption charges through conveniently timed ill-health (strange how often this happens to politicians isn't it?) was not involved with Activision. I forget which local companies it actually was... very easily searchable though ;)
heh shock, Labour and lib dem's demanding more censorship and believing the peasants to thick to be able to cope with fantasy.
Because a moral crusader from the christian right would never dream of censoring video games.
Do we even have a Christian Right here?
I mean Conservatives aren't exactly that right wing, nor that Christan.
"remarkable resemblance to the tragic events of 7 July 2005"
Hold up - the 7/7 bombings involved an SAS team in a pick-up truck chasing a train being used by Russian Ultranationalists to transport chemical weapons in to the West End? I was under the impression that it was suicide bombers....
Really though, this is no more "engaging in gratuitous acts of violence against members of the public" than reading a Tom Clancy novel, where there's all sorts of baddies being very naughty indeed. Depicting acts of terrorism is fine if it's a novel but a big no-no in a game?
Of course terrorism is fine in novels; children don't read novels for fun :)
I've been playing these violent games since kicking off in about 1985 with Spy vs Spy on the spectrum
So far, I've not murdered anyone
not one single person
Maybe I'm lucky
You would say that, wouldn't you....
Back in the 80's I played "How to be a complete Bastard" and in that game I stabbed someone with a pair of scissors! (the cops then came and arrested me, bastards), but in real life I've only ever shot someone once and that was before I played video games.
You posted anonymously - I think a clear sign your mind has been warped by Spy vs Spy
It's an 18...
BBFC have done plenty, they shouldn't ban a game due to bad parenting!
Parents shouldn't buy their kids this game, in the same way they shouldn't buy them porn!!
Exactly, it would absolutely absurd to buy your kids porn, they already know where to get it for free anyway. Ditto any banned games they wanted to play.
adult games and cartoons
Parents simply pass them on to their kids. "it's a game, innit?" or "it's only a cartoon".
You don't need a licence to have children, but you should have to pass some sort of "I'm not a compete moron who only has kids for the benefit money it gives me" test.
My nephew plays these games and he has been since he was 8. It annoys the tits off me.
Usual tosh from our wonderful politicians.
"there is increasing evidence of a link between perpetrators of violent crime and violent video games users" - umm, no there's not, only a possible link that says persons predisposed to violent crime quite possibly endulge in violent video game use. No causality.
Are people seriously still going on about things like this?
Who elects this cretin?
Oh not this old droll on again
Seriously, many studies have shown that computer game violence does not begot real life violence. If anything without a outlet in a virtual world the insidents of real life voilence increases.
Also how can `the people` take them seriously when they say ""engage in gratuitous acts of violence against members of the public"." when banks have and still do that to the public. What next convicted criminals allowed back into the house of Lords £300 a day expense club despite them having a conviction of expense fraud.
There are more actual event that need addressing and not freedom of choice of those who are not hurting anybody in real life. If your a MP then stop focusing on games in virtual worlds when the real world needs your attention.
Are these MPs complaining because some 8yo is killing them on multiplayer and making it like they "care" about our young?
You might be on to something there! Given the number of overblown teenagers on X-box Live, he might be trying to remove the competition.
Fuck these people. I've been beating the shit out of digital representations of real things since I was what, 4? No murders, no assaults, no arrest, not even a parking ticket, because I can tell the difference between pixels and people.
"...a link between perpetrators of violent crime and violent video games users"
Playing COD MW3 does NOT make children violent.
Playing COD MW3 with Internet lag... ...THAT'S what makes children violent.
He's one to talk! He has no trouble supporting terrorism:
The bandwagon! No doubt the governments results will show that is a problem that needs to be tackled and the only solution is some nice taxes...
Evidence of a link, eh?
"there is increasing evidence of a link between perpetrators of violent crime and violent video games users"
You mean like a "correlation". Gosh. Blow me. Who'd've thunk it?
It wouldn't be surprising if people who enjoy committing acts of violence in the real world also get off on doing it in a virtual one. The converse needn't be true. Quite the opposite, in fact, since perhaps the enjoyable thing about cyber violence is that no-one gets hurt so you can stick Keith Vaz masks on all the bad guys and beat seven bells out of them without offending your personal moral code.
But maybe you want to get all Minority Report and start tracking down those who purchase such games. Well, here's another "link" for you: Every society that has attempted to legislate what goes on in adults' heads has been a really crap place to live.
If God had intended us to poke around in each other's minds, he wouldn't have sealed them in a bony box.
More people who commit crime wear clothes - Way more than have even played any video game ever. As such they should ban clothes, you know it makes sence.
Wish they would fu*% Off and find something usefull todo
Wish these Bloody politico's would just Fu%& off and find something more usefull to do...
How about the economy ?....the large numbers of un-employed.... high fuel costs..... high cost of living.....
No... they focus on a video game.... Tossers
Like this ??
They held a debate today on 'regulating hairdressers' so stop worrying about the national debt, jobs, fuel, energy costs etc etc, your leaders have more important things to do
Rushdie Affair, Filkin Inquiry, Hinduja Affair, etc, etc...
And where do I go to express my deep concern about The Rt Hon MP for Leicester East..?
Wow! Holy shit, he's a bad 'un. I can't believe you are allowed back into parliment with such a clearly bad record. He seems scum on so many levels its stunning...
They obviously haven't bothered to watch that Tube scene then (there being no chance they would actually play it).
In a rare moment of self-censure by Infinity Ward, IIRC there's not a single civilian in the firing line throughout the whole chapter - either on the train, or in the tube station.
In fact, rather than the 7th July bombings (I detest the 'say 7/7 so it sounds like 9/11' shite), the basic blowing up Parliament plot-line is a bit over 400 years old with the tube-bomb angle added in more recently by V (for Vendetta).
AC for iconic reasons.
Actually, these games are more like training us to kill Russians - Vaz will thank us when the red tide sweeps across Europe! He'll eat his words I tell ye, eat his words!
Anyway, I also think we should get the RSPCA to put pressure on the government, I can't tell you how many wolves I've killed in Temeria this week. Also dragons, but I don't know whether that falls under the group's remit...
> "there is increasing evidence of a link between perpetrators of violent crime and violent video games users".
There is increasing evidence of a link between politicians and whining about violence in video games to get publicity.
Did you know Hitler was an avid fan of video games? It's where he got all his ideas from.
You can't handle the truth!
The world, all the plants, animals and people on it a cruel. Lions eat zebras, Orcas harry mink whales untill exhaustion then drag them under the surface to drown, sharks eat stuff...etc...etc. People die, there is disease and there are terrorists...etc...etc. This game is not aimed at children - it is certified 18 just like a film and cannot be sold to anyone under that age. Equally in 5-10 years this game will look like a cartoon. Remember the fuss about those old mortal combat games because the showed some blood splattering? It looks so shit now even a two yr old would laugh at it while playing with his iPad.
Personally I like my politians to be educated, informed and have some bottle to handle difficult situations and make difficult descisions. If they can't handle a game that a) gives you the option to turn off the nasty bits, and b) is played and enjoyed by millions....just fuck off!
.Wake me up when there's a game that allows players to engage in gratuitous acts of violence against attention seeking Members of Parliament.
"game that allows players to engage in gratuitous acts of violence against attention seeking Members of Parliament."
Now there's an idea...!
"Call of duty: Voting from the rooftops"
Mans an arse.
Hes tried this before. He tried to show a link between a murder and Manhunt. unfortuantly the only person with a copy of the game was the victim. and the police laughed at his attempts to link them.
have a dig around about his numerous conflicts of intrest. there are many. not only that but he is bad at them, and keeps getting caught.
"bearing a remarkable resemblance to the tragic events of 7 July 2005"
Yes, I recall reading about the flatbed trucks chasing the tubes in a high speed gunfight in 2005.
My only hope is that someone has actually been turned into a violent psychopath by MW3 and decides to attack Keith Vaz.
"...a remarkable resemblance to the tragic events of 7 July 2005"
I wasn't in any of the bombed underground trains, but I'm reasonably certain that they weren't being followed by a jeep full of machine gun toting soldiers & I doubt it derailed, slid sideways 90 degrees & didn't flip over 3 times.
Not sure if serious or trolling...
Typical Politician Claptrap
Nothing to see here folks, normal service is resuming at the House of Commons, once again people who have no idea what on earth they are talking about are trying to get something canned simply because they have a personal problem with it.
Are these really the type of people we want running our county?
It never stops, first it was any music that wasnt classical, then the silver screen, then music came around again in the3 form of blues/jazz/rap etc and lets not forget how skateboards were all some sort of commie plot in the 70s/80s and of course now we have music. videos & computer games taking the blame.
You know just once I'd like these politicians to get confronted after saying stupid things like 'video games make you violent' with the peer reviewed evidence that shows there is no evidence whatsoever to show that playing violent video games can actually turn you into a violent person or increase a persons level of violence.
PS - ElReg, I want the hand grenade icon back pretty please with a cherry on top :)
"Are these really the type of people we want running our county?"
The situation is far worse than you imagined ... these tw@ts are in charge of our Country too!
"engage in gratuitous acts of violence against members of the public"
"There's no room for men like you in my force, Savage. I'm transferring you to the SPG".
Ah, truly the old ones are the best....
i knew this game would cause controversies and it has replicating 7/7 is wrong but still activision gets away with it. for me i didnt buy it and i wont be buying it for me its ruined cod and rightly so ever since mw2 came out its been going down hill filled with bugs small maps camping little noobs hiding in corners and nothing new added. why should i pay 30 odd quid to play cod online when i can play on the psn for free anyway. i left cod after the disaster black ops caused not so much controversies but more of the online side sucked because it kept freezing my console lagging online constently i was getten kicked out of the lobby all the time. and before anyone asks no my connection was fine im on upto 20meg and its unlimited and runs fine on other games so clearly its cod thats the problem. as for mw3 they can ban it for all i care they should of banned it before it got released.
did it steal your full-stop key, too?
By the look of your english I can only assume that the word brain was truncated from the beginning of your ID?
You mean the shift key.
The article tells you it doesn't replicate 7/7, and so do half of the comments
You say "ruined cod", is this what you have for grey matter?