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The parliamentary aide to a right-wing Finnish MP has offered to resign after the Anonymous hacking collective published what it said was a list of applications to join a local neo-Nazi party. Hacktivists broke into the website of Kansallinen Vastarinta, the magazine of the Suomen Vastarintaliike (Finnish Resistance Movement), …

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Anonymous collateral damage

Anonymous as usual splatter the personal data of innocent people onto the web regardless of the consequences.

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"Training" Camps

More brainwashing for the young and gullible, I suspect. The kids on that camp that was shot up by the right-wing nutter were having fun pretending to be Hamas terrorists; I wonder which buckets of scum these far-right types want to emulate - the Hitler Youth?

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Hamas?

What is your source for these "revelations"? In fact, the people on "that camp" were merely engaging in normal leisure activity and rational political debate. You disgust all right-minded people with your innuendo about the deceased.

I suppose it's easy to fill up at your own propaganda outlets and spout off about things you know nothing about, all because some ill-informed moron heard something about someone in Norwegian politics not wanting to bomb the crap out of Palestine and then extrapolated the hell out of their most paranoid and delusional thoughts to form a moronic theory about what all those decadent Europeans must be doing. When you got to hear the polished version that plays to your stupid prejudices, it probably made you feel like your intellectually-curtailed world-view was somehow confirmed.

But regardless of what the idiotic talking heads are saying to the nodding buffoons alongside you in whichever target audience you belong to, I'd advise you to have some respect for the victims of that tragedy and keep your uninformed outbursts to yourself.

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very wary

of those who appoint themselves as arbiters of morality

(for the record: not a neo-Nazi or paedophile)

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Anonymous == Thought Police

We are all innocent until proven guilty of committing a crime.

The crime committed here was by members of Anonymous.

Freedom of thought must be a universal right, including the right to disagree with existing laws.

No one should have to resign just for having an opinion.

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No one should have to resign just for having an opinion.

Unless it harms the hive and the whips request it.

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Agreed.

While I have very limited sympathy for racists, I don't agree with what Anonymous did here.

Though I admit that I'm not that familiar with the Finnish political landscape. If this neo-Nazi group is gaining significant political power to the point where they pose a credible threat, than perhaps this was justified.

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neo-Nazi group

But does that justify exposing the details of an MP who then denied membership of the group anyway. Web sites acquire details for all sorts of people who may either have not even entered the details anyway, may have been spoofed into entering the details or may have entered the details.

Does being recorded on the Internet make something true? More so if Anonymous dump the information into pastebin?

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Ying Yang

Anonymous do seem to go with karma,

one day just hurting people because they can, the next exposing neo-nazi's..

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Do polar bears defecate in Finland's dense forests?

A parliamentary aide to an MP from the nationalist party "True Finns" (the clue is in the name) might harbour some neo-Nazi sympathies. How shocking. Next they'll shockingly reveal that some minor UKIP or Conservative party official doesn't particularly care for "darkies", and they "liked Britain better in the good old days".

It's hardly a major coup for Anonymous, is it?

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Firstly, I'm not sure how happy I am about this. I think it's good that people in positions of possible power make their views clear to the public, but this isn't necessarily the way to do it (although I can see the similarities between this and, say, a newspaper asking an informant in the party for a list of possible members, something that I don't think would be so easily frowned upon).

The thing is, a lot of people who associate with right wing parties don't make these associations, even if they're clear as day to others. That's why the BNP has spent so much time spouting propaganda to the effect that they aren't in bed with the EDL. It's not because they actually care, it's because a fair number of people who can vote have less of an issue espousing their nationalistic or racist views if they can't be linked to a militant far-right organisation. These people will happily carry on with their delusion that actually the BNP isn't all that bad, they just want to help the poor working white man, until things like this come out, or until videos are shown of Griffin talking with a KKK chief. If it opens the eyes of one person, I'd call it a success, in the same vein as if their campaign against scientology saves one person from losing their life savings, or their life, it's a success.

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OT: minor correction

"The parliamentary aide to a right-wing Finnish MP"

While "true finns" might be xenophobic, they are *not* right wing. In the questions before elections True Finn MP candidates firmly supported adding more benefits to poor (locals) and more taxes to the rich. Bigotry is not a right-wing exclusive.

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Have a look.

My Finnish is rather poor but looking at their web site http://www.patriootti.com/ is rather informative.

A link to a video from Ex-Grand Wizard David Duke and a cartoon about Israeli nuclear weapons suggest they worry about Zionism quite a lot!

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Collateral damages?

It could be argued that by leaking the names in the open, it gives the "victims" (and the institutions/companies) a chance to mitigate the consequences. As opposed to what would happen should a black hat get the same info using the same methods.

Hence, it could be argued that "spilling their personal details all over the web" is actually doing them a favor.

(that, of course, relies on the assumption that just notifying the institution of the vuln would not lead to a improvement in security; not a big assumption to make, and one that is backed by ample experience in the past decade).

Devil's advocate icon, obviously.

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McCarthyism, by any other name ...

"I have here in my hand a list of ..."

Sorry, anonytwats, that way lies madness. I have no sympathy for your methodology. At least Joe had the balls to show his face.

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Anonotards

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Grow up, leave the basement.

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Ngh?

I don't know what to think about Anonymous tactics but comparing it to McCarthyism is stupid. They did not seek to imprison or "suicide" the people on the list they published. They did not blackmail their neighbors and friends into making false accusations. They did not threaten to harm people's families to coerce them into falsely incriminate themselves.

They just published a list of people who filled a form. Call it Googleism or Phormism all you want. McCarthyism it ain't.

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