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RIM's efforts to create a purely touchscreen device haven't exactly been the most successful departure for the BlackBerry maker. Yes, the Storm handsets had their fans but they were simply not good enough to halt RIM's market share migration to Android and iOS. RIM BlackBerry Torch 9860 smartphone Touching experience: RIM's …

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physical buttons

Seems to me one thing that distinguishes high end Android devices from low/mid range is *not* having physical buttons. Have to wonder if some will see those buttons as a sign it's comparable with budget phones, not the high end!

A little unfair to compare the camera with an Xperia Play, since SE sacrificed a decent camera for the gameplay features. Not that many other Android camera's are any good but the Play's barely beats HTC's woeful efforts.

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Battery life..?

Any news on what sort of performance you can get out of the battery (usually much better on BBs than Androids)?

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"The large screen does have an impact on battery life but a full charge should still see you through two full days, which is more than you will get from many an Android handset"

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"I can’t get too bent out of shape about the lack of text reflow and Flash support"

"because you don’t get either with iOS 5 or WinPho 7.5"

And you do on Android and Symbian. What are we aiming for here, the lowest common denominator?

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BB Missing The Point?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this, but aren't RIM missing their USP here? They make good handsets with good keyboards and that's what differentiates them - only the Nokia qwerty range ever seemed to come close to the BB keyboards.

They lose the keyboard and go touchscreen....what do they have? My Android (and my old iPhone) all do email just as well (for consumers, anyway) as BB ever did. They have a wider range of (cheaper and better) apps, and with things like MSN and LiveProfile, who really needs BBM now (except kids who want it to work when they have run out of credit).

BB cannot catch-up with iOS/Android in the app market, so they must concentrate on what they do better than anyone else. And that ISN'T making touchscreen phones with no redeeming qualities.

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Browser

What's up with that browser screen?

Why are the GUI elements so big? Why on the social screen do you only see what looks like half the post in that huge ugly font?

Swing and a miss RIM... swing and a miss...

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Nice phone poor battery life

I have had one of these phones for the past weeek.

The phone itself is very nice to use and it is very responsive and the call quality is excellent. Having the big screen is brilliant it makes looking at the internet much easier.

The down sides I found were:

1. The signal strength is nowhere near as good as my 9700, in places where the 9700 would get a low signal but still connect ok this phone was losing the network or just not connecting at all, I took the initial phone I got back and got a replacement and a replacement sim card thinking it was faulty but it made no difference. In the end I had to get the Vodafone Sure Signal box to get a reliable connection at home.

2. The battery life. With the 9700 I can get 2 maybe 3 days if I needed too, but I recharge every night anyway so as long as I get at least 1 day then I wouldnt have been a problem. The best I got with this phone was 7 - 8 hours and that was been very very careful not to use it too much and I installed an app to switch off anything (such as wifi) off when I am not using it, prior to installing this app I got a lot less than this.

This morning I returned the phone and I have gone back to the 9700.

If battery life isnt an issue and you use the phone in areas with a good signal then this phone is excellent, unfortunatly for me it is an issue. I also realise that all big screen phones use up the battery faster than the smaller screens, but I also have an HTC wildfire and that can give me battery life into the 2 -3 days range so I think they need to think about putting a bigger battery into any future large screen phones they release and if they do then I would be very interested in trying it but as it stands having a nice phone that you cant use incase the battery goes flat is no good to me.

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