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The icy location is a big advantage for the new data centre that Facebook is planning in the northern Swedish town of Lulea. But while the frigid Arctic winds will fan the servers, it's the legal climate that could get hot. A controversial Swedish internet surveillance law passed in 2008 allows the government there to intercept …

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Pirate

they don't care

It's obvious: they don't care about users privacy, they really can't be more clear about it.

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I don't anyone still on Facebook is concerned

with their privacy.

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Angel

Move on sir, there's nothing to see here.

What's the problem? The USA (through the NSA) already wire-taps everything ... except that of course, they don't talk about it. The Swedes are simply telling you that they are going to do the same thing.

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SSL

Presumably this is just a simple wire tap type of filter so any comms can be intercepted without having to talk to anyone. In which case running facebook under SSL (which everyone should be doing anyway) will stop it.

If on the other hand facebook have to provide the Swedish authorities access to any data on request then it's a different matter.

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Why use SSL, you are posting data to FACEBOOK. A bored 15 year old with ten minutes can get all the details of your profile.

If you want privacy, posting to the internet equivalent of the back of a toilet door is not the way to go.

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SSL + some facts

It's a filter on top of cables. Which, given a court-agreed permission and various paperwork, can be used to do a search for keywords (approved keywords, hey-ho). So you're right.

Some days I think El Reg need to stay off news from countries with languages their staff can't read for themselves. Yes, FRA (actually, it's a civilian organisation) ain't a walk in the park, but there are several levels of courts and monitoring agencies that keep one or two eyes on the filters.

So, no, the government can't simply pop in and look at everything. Well. No more so than they can pop in and kill you in your bed. Technically they surely could, but there's a fine line between normal, healthy paranoia and, well, blazing insanity.

PS: Because of human nature, I am reluctantly forced to add: I do not support the Swedish Parliament in enacting this. There. That ought to take out one, or perhaps two, of the screaming hysterics.

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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

The Swedes snooping your personal data, hardly anything to worry about. What they checking for?

How many Abba songs you liked on Facebook? Or whether you might buy a Saab next time. So sinister..

Now if it was the Americans, Russians, Chinese or British then I'd be worried

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Trollface

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if (/surprise sex/) {

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Clearly you've never read any of the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo trilogy. Säpo are out to get you.

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Meh

Wow google going on about privacy, that's rich when they have a bot that reads you email, if you dumb enough to use gmail, and chrome for everything you do on the internet.

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Face-palm-book, you didn't answer the question

the question isn't: "will you hand over data to a legal authority should they have the legal power to get it?"

the question is: "What do you think of the fact that the government will have a _copy_ of everything your users post of or read from your servers that are located in Sweden?"

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So, when does it become illegal to pollute our profiles?

When does it become a crime for various individuals and groups who ARE NOT YET criminals to just create tantalizing circuitous BS on their profiles. Not specifically using bellringer keywords, not falsely creating attack or mayhem plans, but just doing borderline resource-eroding stuff that compels scrutiny that ultimately wastes time because it's factually, ultimately harmless?

Example, one way to do this is to just keep endlessly posting text and photo information. At some point, even the investigators/snoops and othe... umm, criminals will become paranoid if properly carried out.

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ha

Ironically, this won't affect those of us who live in Sweden, because our data won't pass the Swedish border.

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DPA Compliance

"Facebook Ireland Ltd is already compliant with European Union data protection law and acts as the data controller for these users."

'Europe vs Facebook' begs to differ.

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TeliaSonera, which was formed from the Finnish Sonera and the Swedish Telia, is one of the biggest teleoperators here in Finland. They also offer e-mail services and because of the Swedish telesnooping law they had to make a public promise to never house emails of their Finnish customers on the Swedish servers. The whole telesnooping law was a pretty bad disaster for the reputation of Swedish democracy, but of course in a way the law is understandable.

The problem I see about it is that there's been some talk here up north how Sweden practically gives all their spy intel to CIA, so if that's true Facebook users can expect to have their correspondance be scanned by the Americans. Although possibly the different spy agencies do it worldwide all the time already. It's hard to trust anything to remain secret on the net anyway.

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According to Bruce Schneier:

"I think the biggest danger of putting things on Facebook is Facebook. Facebook knows all of your stuff, and they sell it. It's like handing your money to a thief who says 'Nobody else will get your money.' If you want Facebook security, don't be on Facebook."

http://www.technologyreview.com/printer_friendly_article.aspx?id=39001

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Devil

Western Democracy,... US excluded ?

So it's alright for Echelon to snoop from wherever, UK, Australia, Canada ant others, but "unfit for a Western democracy" to snoop inside its own border ?

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