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Avira anti-virus detected components of its own application as potentially malign on Wednesday following a dodgy signature update. Avira detected its own AESCRIPT.DLL library file as the previously obscure "TR/Spy.463227" strain of malware. The dodgy AntiVir virus definition file was quickly pulled and replaced with a new …

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FAIL

First they came for the applications, and I didn't speak out.

Then they came for the Windows file, and I didn't speak out.

Then they came for themselves, and I didn't have a fucking clue what was going on.

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This is probably the best use of this quote ever.

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MrT
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Plugging things into an unprotected port...?

Avira Immunisation Deficiency Syndrome...

Etc

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May I be the 27th person to say

<nelson muntz> Ha ha! <\nelson muntz>

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Best anti virus fail ever.

If you are too lazy to test your virus definition files against your own binaries, then that probably says enough about testing it against other non-malware like operating system files, and other innocent victims of your anti-virus products appetite for destruction.

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FAIL

Divide by zero?

nothing to see here, move along.

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CA had similar problems

CA antivirus is something that should be removed...

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So I'm assuming that they must've rolled this update out without testing it at all. If they had, it would have been obvious that there was a problem.

Really makes you want to put your trust in this company, doesn't it?

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WTF?

New Ad slogan

"Buy Avira - we're so paranoid, we don't even trust ourselves!"

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ROFL

You owe me a keyboard. I lost myself laughing at that 'slogan'

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The Unknown Pythagorean Theorem

The self righteous run with ever increasing speed in ever decreasing concentric circles until they finally disappear up their own arseholes.

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Re: The Unknown Pythagorean Theorem

"The self righteous run with ever increasing speed in ever decreasing concentric circles until they finally disappear up their own arseholes."

It reminds me of the things that double jointed people can do to entertain themselves.

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How can they be decreasing if they are concentric?

...</nerd>

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Self Righteous

Self-righteous is right. Avira support people are completely arrogant. Prove them wrong and they claim you don't understand.

BTW, when I clicked on the link for the Avira support forum the Avira website gave me a horrid PHP error "Fatal error: PHP warning in file"

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How can they be decreasing if they are concentric?

Pythagorus could tell you the secret, but then he'd have to kill you to keep it secret.

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There's always the distinct possibility...

that their software does contain a spyware component... who really knows? On Google you'll find at least one instance some time ago where AVG would flag the same Avira aescrypt.dll file as spyware lolll. It's interesting to imagine what in that file triggers such behavior...

Maybe AV makers should release the source code of their free products.

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Lupus

That is all

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It's never lupus!

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Windows home essentials.

It's best just to use the windows anti-virus software, proven because it doesn't ever find viruses which don't really exist.

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Ahem, remember the time MS Security Essentials targeted Google Chrome last month? They're just as crazy.

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You think that was a mistake?

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I, for one.....

......welcome Avira's practical demonstration of how to disappear up your own arse.

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Windows does it as well

The best Windows BSoD I had was one which told me that Windows was shutting down to protect me from dangerous software. The software in question, it told me, was EXPLORER.EXE, a rather major part of Windows itself. Yes, Windows told me that it itself was a danger. The only true thing MS has ever said...

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Is there a Darwin Award equivalent

for AV vendors?

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... 'tis the sport to have the enginer

Hoist with his own petar ...

Henri

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Still, ...

... at least it's not Windows Defender.

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Linux

Use Linux.

Relevant: http://xkcd.com/272/

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How many of you pay for Avira?

Although I'm tempted to share the general cynicism I think its not that black/white. Is it a blunder? Absolutely. And despite the subject I'm not claiming that they don't need to do any tests because its free or something.

But still; I'd rather have a virus scanner which also actively scans itself and has false positives than one which doesn't even bother (keeps its own location as white listed) and actually risks infections (sure; there are self diagnostics, but still...).

Its a risk you have with virus scanners. Some nuked Windows, some do other crazy stuff. Its why its important that you don't blindly use your scanner and consider yourself 'safe'. You should beware what your scanner does and make sure that in case of doubt you'll be the one calling the shots.

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I do...

I used to think Avira was great (hence getting the paid for version), but the new release has caused so many headaches and false positives that when the license runs out I'll do the same as my new machines - just use Windows own AV...

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"You should beware what your scanner does and make sure that in case of doubt you'll be the one calling the shots."

If only more people had this sort of thinking, there'd be less stories of motorists finding themselves stuck in a canal after following a satnav.... Why is it that Common Sense, much like Common Courtesy, is now an oxymoron

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What?

An antivirus story without a quotation from Mr Cluley?

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