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Today's British man could be descended from exciting, live-life-on-the-edge hunter-gatherers rather than migrating farmers as previously thought, according to a new gene study. Britons' slightly sexier past comes courtesy of scientists from the Universities of Oxford and Edinburgh, who examined the set of genes called R-M269, …

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You have to admit

jumping up and down like an idiot in front of a herd of mammoths in the hope that they will all pile over a cliff is a pretty sexy line of work - on a par with being James Bond I'd think.

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But if we're not descended from Turks...

...What explains my fondness for doner kebabs?

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Kebab ......

Probably Lager related?

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Well..

The rotating meat stick that makes a doner a doner looks kind of like an elephant/ mammoth trunk thats been roasted.

Maybe they were originally made of mammoth and you are harnessing your awesome genetic memory to recall when we had mammoth kebabs in the darkest paeolithic...?

Or, you might just like dirty, greasy food after a night out.

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Actually, it explains why I don't like it.

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Your innate fondness

for mammoth leg. On a stick.

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Dude, you're human, not dead. Doner kebabs are up there with kosher pastrami, red velvet cake, smoked venison, chilled Harp, and fresh pawpaw as the only things that make me question atheism.

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so he's descended...

from South American yeast? Wow!

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I have to say ...

"Ooh lake mamooth?" (C) Armstrong&Miller

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Mmmmm!

It nice name...oh.

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And if they could see us now

(assuming an understanding of the modern world), what would they think of us, as the result of all that effort?

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They would think

Wow, these guys have a lot of food, and spare time, and toys.

Maybe we should have given up all these year of dangerous not massively efficent hunting earlier.

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They'd then look at farming methods of their time and think "screw it, I'd rather risk the mammoth."

(I say this as someone who did a lot of farm work in his youth. It left me with a powerful desire for a college degree and a permanent thirst.)

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Mixed bag

So what kind of "Britons" are they looking at? Celts? Picts? Scots? Angles? Saxons? Normans? Someone else that has invaded our island and settled here over the years? Really there is no such thing as a racial type for people from Britain.

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A step further back ...

When we're talking about Ice Age populations, there's no real difference between all of those groups. Each one is a thin veneer of elites over a much larger population, which quickly mixes in the new elite anyway. Previous genetic studies for the UK suggest that there hasn't been a massive change of population in the last two thousand years; a language or culture change doesn't mean replacement of the population.

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Angles, Saxons and Normans...

...are not Britons. Neither are Romans who invaded these islands a long time before any of these Johnny-come-latelys.

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"no such thing as a racial type"

By your argument there's probably no such thing as a racial type for any geographic area of comparable size, such as Nevada state, northern Persia, Yunnan province or a tribal area of the Brazilian rain forest. There have been continual movements of people and gene flow all over the world over the last 40,000+ years, even if most populations don't record their history very far back. The Maori are recognised as indigenous to New Zealand yet they've only been there for 700 years so must be indisinguishable from some neighbouring populations. It's obvious that broad racial types do exist and are identifiable with larger geographic areas like North America, Northern Europe, China, sub-saharan Africa etc. Indigenous Brits are predominantly descendents of Ayrian and Alpine Caucasians, pretty much like the rest of northern and central Europe.

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No we didn't!

We came from a mass migration following the failure of the Tower Of Babel project. All this prehistoric stuff is non-proper-belief propaganda. Any Christian can tell you that!

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Tower Of Babel?

I think you'll find it was the nam-shub of Enki which caused all the problems.

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men

It is not just British men who are descended from mammoth hunters. Any women who have fathers will also have a male line of ancestry from this source.

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This study concentrated on a section of genes present in the Y chromosome, which most women tend to lack.

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Uh

"which most women tend to lack."

You even been to a state fair? Just sayin'.

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Fashion?

Are faded genes fashionalble again then?

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Ah, finally...

...the ultimate excuse for my abysmal luck with the ladies..."some genetic markers are more suited to dating than others."

There, it's genetic OK?

*Sigh*

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Hmm

The human being was a hunter before he become a farmer, any where in the world, most likely.

Digging up edible things from the ground and elsewhere is not farming.

There was this American professor or something who came to the (logical) conclusion that mankind become farmers when they understood how to make alcohol. As you cannot carry your field with you, you are stuck.

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Fermented goats milk...

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The title is required... and all that blather...

Add to that fermented mare's milk... and yak milk...

Gotta settle for beer these days... just can't get a wine glass icon.

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OBVIOUSLY!

Ask any Brit which they would chose for tea:

A) BBQ Mammoth

B) Lentil soup

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I for one welcome....

Our British mammoth-masticating overlords.....

(But what did our overlords do with the welcome mat icon?)

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Furries

I always had a feeling you island folk were into furries... this thing proves it.

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oh?

Does any of this explain the recent riots? Were people instinctively hunter-gathering 40" plasmas?

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It's the gathering tendency...

...that goes along with a long day wandering around looking for a mammoth. If you came

across a tree filled with juicy fruit, you didn't just keep walking; you stopped and grabbed a couple to munch on as you went.

Same thing here. The people are out doing their nasty business of trashing big important things: cars, shops, cops, etc. and they come across a 40" plasma TV just sitting on some shelf. So, they pick it up and take it with them. Wouldn't want it to just sit there and rot on the shelf when they could put it to good use.

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That explains

The mammoth hunting that used to go on in the student union at ten to two in the morning

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Diarrhea is hereditary

It runs in the jeans.

(And there's no mystery about the dispersal point.)

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