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Microsoft is fuelling up 13 bulletins for release next week, including an update that guards against critical flaws in Internet Explorer. Another "critical" bulletin affects Windows server operating systems, and addresses a code-execution risk on unpatched systems. Also of note is an update restricted to newer versions of …

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Facepalm

Patch Tuesday....

Critical patches in IE are fixed. It took them well over a month though.

Why not just write decent software in the first place?

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Damn Straight

You're completely right - you deserve a full refund of all that money you spent on IE! Afterward, switch to Firefox, Chrome or Safari - they never need patching.

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Windows

More patches?

Surely all the bugs have been caught by now? Surely?

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Sigh

Easy to tell which of the commentards have no clue about software development, much less have ever done development work...

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Sigh right back...

...easy to tell the developer missing the commercial realities of software development, or the developer who doesn't have to worry about his meal-ticket month by month.

That reality is that development actually has to finish before it can be sold, and once it is sold, should require *minimum* maintenance until it's OOL or out of contract.

A product that requires monthly patches, often patching the same files again and again, consuming thousands of man hours - per month - post-sale, is not a development success.

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Sigh^3

"A product that requires monthly patches, often patching the same files again and again, consuming thousands of man hours - per month - post-sale, is not a development success."

So by that standard there isn't a single OS or browser on the market that is "a development success".

Right then, sorted.

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@ Sigh 3

Correct. And they're not just "development failures" either. They're "commericial failures" too.

All that time spent...none of it being reclaimed through direct sales profit (only Opera are commerical IIRC). Firefox is different naturally, but being open-source has it's own issues and development standards.

Instead, those IE development man hours (which won't be cheap btw) get shunted into the Office, Server products and OS budgets, and you - the consumer or business - pay for it everytime you upgrade windows or Office. Think about that next time you upgrade - "I'm paying MS to fix products I didn't buy or maybe don't even use".

Now, I'm not saying post-release development should be avoided - it's inevitable, especially for critical patches. But take IE6 - how many patches were there in total, and how many were "critical"?

If IE was a car, and you'd had an average of 13 critical safety and other recalls* every month since 2001, you - as the consumer - would be pretty pissed off by now. Even if the car was free.

(*my made up figure btw)

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@AC Friday 5th August 2011 13:36 GMT

Given that no OS or browser out there today can meet your standards for a development and commercial success, I have to wonder - what OS and/or browser (or other significant, consumer-facing software with wide-spread adoption) do you have to *your* credit that is a development and commercial success?

It's easy to sit in an ivory tower and decry the desolation and destruction around you, but it is an entirely different matter to actually clear the land and build a city that meets your own lofty criteria.

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If your OS was a car.

And if your OS was like a car, then you would need to take out a loan every 5 years to purchase the new model that costs you $20,000 that is 100% bug free.

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Re: If your OS was a car.

@Trib, ...just don't buy one for the first year of a major model change.

Hey, a helpful car example! :D

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Not much better with Ubuntu

After installing a new distro of Ubunto (11.4) only 3 weeks ago, I have a message indicating 58 updates required. So, not much better in the alternative market although I concede there is little prospect of these "maintainers" recovering their costs from joe public, other than sales to big business. Must go, updates are in region of 600Mb....

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If your os was a car

It would be doing 500 kph and consume 2 litres per 100 kms. Sure it would need restarting once in a while. Ask per bagging M$ for software that need patching. Show me a os that doesn't.

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Windows XP is safer?

From the MS summary, comparing bulletins for client OSes::

Windows XP: 1,6,7,9,10,12 (total 6)

Vista: 1,7,8,10,11,12,13 (total 7)

Windows 7: 1,3,7,8,10,12,13 (total 7)

So either they're not bothering patching XP, or it's safer than Vista/7..?

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