What's the equivalent
of a P45 in China. Is there an app for that?
A Chinese lecturer has raised a storm by demanding students get an iPad, and that anyone unable to raise the funds over the summer shouldn't bother studying the financial industry. Liang Zhenyu teaches at the Shanghai Maritime University and sent out a tweet (over the Weibo service) explaining that he would be using an iPad …
There is a reason why financial services want everyone on the up and up. They are playing with other people's money and no one wants someone dressed like a developer playing with their money. Would you trust your money and your families future to a neckbeard dressed in a Star Wars T-shirt and combat boots?
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My comment was supposed to be about customer perception, I really didn't mean to get everyone so worked up.
I agree that the clothes don't make the person but consider this. If banks didn't have a dress code and operated like they do now (basically all providing the same services at similar costs) would you pick the bank with the staff in street dress or the bank with the well dressed staff?
'And for every teenage tracksuit mugger
There's a guy in a suit who wouldn't lift a finger for anybody else.'
Dress sense says NOTHING about a person whatsoever. I have this argument regularly with a friend who wants me to join his golf club. I tell him until they relax all the Victorian era rules about what you can and cannot wear both in the club and on the course, and when women are allowed equal status* then there is no way I am joining.
He argues that it keeps the riff-raff out and I point out to him that that is the kind of snobbery that I am not willing to put up with. I have met far more people with sharp suits and Audis or Beemers that are complete and utter twats that I wouldn't spend 5 minutes with than I have your everyday nobody who shops at Primark and drives an Astra who tend to be decent people.
But if a sharp suit and a nice car are all it takes for you to trust somebody with your money, I have both so could I interest you in this once in a lifetime investment opportunity......
*The ladies have a room in the clubhouse with times that they are and are not allowed to be there along with times when they are not allowed to play on the course. Totally ridiculous
Ok, so noone would trust someone in a suit either. But that's not the point: if a finance advisor wore a suit (ok, granted) AND (wait for it) also had an iPad, now that's a completely different matter, then surely you'd trust him/her.
If you not agree with that, you have no necessarity be my course.
Who'd want to learn finances from a guy who supports giving out shovel loads of cash for horridly overpriced devices? Sounds like the same teacher the US Gov't had when they drafted the bailouts....
(Don't believe me on "overpriced"? Just look at their operating costs and profit margins)
Forget the iPad, it's the suit wearing rubbish I still dislike most, mainly because I have to wear one for an interview today. It's absolutely shocking that in the modern world interview situation idiots can be judged positively for their smart appearance while geniuses ignored because they turn up in comfortable clothes.
Just smart casual attire. I don't think I'd wear a monkey suit for a programming position unless that's the dress code policy for the place. As far as I know it hasn't hurt any of my employment prospects.
Think of it like a first date. Just because you feel more comfortable being a slob doesn't mean you shouldn't try and make a good first impression.
Whenever I read something like this I am reminded of a comment by record producer Chris Kimsey when asked how to get into the recording industry, "Say you'll do anything in the studio, sweep up, make tea, etc, oh and always, always wear a suit to the interview! Steal one or wear youR Dad's, whatever. You may never wear one again in your life, dress like you slept the same clothes for a week all the time but wearing a suit to be a tea-boy shows you're willing to put yourself out to get that on that ladder and get the job you really, really want in the studio.".
Whilst I agree the Chinese bloke is a nutter, I think you may soon be destined for receive a life-lesson in how society works.
I wouldn't hire any idiot - or give additional plus points - solely because he happened to be wearing a suit. My job as an interviewer is to reject idiots and identify stars by careful questioning.
However, I also wouldn't hire anyone who thought they were too good/clever/"modern" to conform to the dress-standards that prevail in my industry and/or showed complete disrespect to their interviewer by turning up in "something comfortable". Why any firm would wish to hire such an arrogant social misfit is beyond me!
You aren't going down the pub with your mates - dress appropriately to the situation!
Good luck in the interview BTW.
Like it or not, the rules of interviews currently expect all candidates to wear a suit.
If you can't attempt to meet the rules for the interview, what makes the interviewer think you will meet the rules of working for the company.
Play the game by the rules, or expect to be playing in the lower leagues for the rest of your life. Only once you're in the premiership can you wear your golden boots.
I know I'll get down votes, but then some people just won't accept reality.
All candidates to wear a suit? Not in every industry, or remotely so. I think that you will find that the more technical/specialised the field, the less of a dress code, let alone a formal one. We all tend to know each other anyway, so what would be the point.
By the way, the article is missing an apostrophe:
"an argument with which, sadly, its hard to find fault."
... was when I got married. The next time I put on a suit will be when they put me in a box.
The last 9-5 I interviewed for (in 1989), I was wearing my racing leathers. When the interviewer queried my choice of "uniform", I pointed out that he had asked me to drive up from Palo Alto to South San Francisco by 10AM ... and had called at 9AM. I knew I could make it on the bike, but there was no way I was driving the Bayshore without armor ... I got the job.
The 9-5 prior to that, I wore the same outfit, for similar reasons. When queried, I responded along the lines of "are you hiring an engineer or a fashion plate?" ... They made me an offer. I counter offered, they hired me at my price point ...
Sounds like an ideal task for an Apprentice Task.
<phone rings>
"Hello, Lord Sugar wants you to come to the Apple Store, the cars will arrive in 30 mins"
Candidates gather in Apple store, LordSirAlan descends the stair case
"Ever since I revolutionized the computer and business worlds with the Amstrad PCW and the Em@iler the business world has been looking for the next big idea .... and the iPad is todays big idea. Now, here's a skip load of old em@ilers for you to go and flog to get enough money to buy an iPad. Anyone without an iPad when you get back to the boardroom will be fired!"
""[The] iPad is not an innovation, it's revolution ... without it the teaching process will be paralyzed.""
This Grade A fuckwit must have been very happy teaching while paralyzed for the decades before the iPad, and everyone else was very happy teaching for centuries before. I am very happy teaching without any whizz-bang fluff at all. I use chalk, blackboard, and words.
Here we have in a microcosm, how and why it is that the bankers have completely shafted us. Dress smartly and carry a shiny gadget, and the world will put trillions of dollars in your hands to throw away in any way you think might be a good idea. Wear a pullover and carry a real computer, and you're on your own.
It used to be a joke when we said "come the revolution" ....
The most I had to get at university was the textbook (which happened to be co-authored by the lecturer....).
All other academic materials were platform agnostic, so could be opened with Windows/Linux/Macs (and no doubt new-fangled iTabloids).
Maybe they could get one from one of the fake apple shops?
To say that a student who cannot afford an overpriced tablet computer, and in effect ensuring that only the upper-middle/upper classes can study his course wouldn't happen in the UK surely, where lower and lower-middle classes can afford higher education? hmmm Actually... I'll get my coat....
wish my daughter's software courses were platform agnostic... sadly, as the college she attends sucks the Microsoft tit, all software courses use their development tools etc. and insist on her laptop being capable of running access etc. just to do the programming assignments... Tony Blair has got a lot to answer for... that shady deal where Bill Gates got a knighthood and all public sectors getting a big discount on going fully Microsoft was a serious setback to open source in this country...
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