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Oracle is struggling a bit with its hardware business right now as it pares down the Sun server and storage business to be a less complex line with more profits. But don't get confused. The software giant and server maker is very much committed to have x64 gear in its lineup to prop up both Linux and Solaris workloads. …

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Cue Matt Bryant....

C'mon Matt, it's an Oracle story - we're waiting!

<taps fingers>

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Surely it depends

on whether Intel will agree to send them any chips, let's face it Oracle are trying their hardest to piss Intel off at the moment.

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Intel has been very quiet...

on the Oracle front. Really, only HP has directly addressed Oracles statements on Itanic support. I assume that is because HP can claim ignorance when it is found to be true, while Intel can enjoy no such ignorance.

Intel has gotten in a lot of trouble in the past for using their near monopoly in chips to control server vendors. With Oracle's penchant to sue, I doubt Intel will play such games with them.

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And....

..where's the Infiniband and SRP support for storage?

Or is taking (some) of what makes Exadata storage perform so well, not acceptable to Larry as he needs the extra(data) bucks to pay for mistress/golfing buddy salary/avgas for bizzjet/new bizzjet/buying the next America's cup or wtf rich people do with too much money?

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Add it!

Looks like it has plenty of expansion capability. Drop a Mellanox Connect X2 in there and have fun. Solaris & Linux both already support IB.

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@AC Add it!

> Looks like it has plenty of expansion capability. Drop a Mellanox Connect X2 in there and have fun. Solaris & Linux both already support IB.

In the corporate environment you do not want to build your own storage servers with support for Infiniband as fabric layer.

Yes, we have done it (lab setup, srp targets). But the amount of politics, the type of support/maintenance expected, management 's "aversion" to (utter ignorance of) Open Source, corporate conservatism and so on, are all factors that say , bad fscking idea.

It is many times easier to simply buy a "certified" storage server that has IB (SRP) support.

However.. looking at the market. This is pretty scarce indeed. And then only for highly specialised market segments like video editing. Or horrible expensive products like Exadata for the the Oracle db market.

Which begs the question. Why is Exadata's approach to the storage fabric layer, which is hugely successful, not being used in other (Oracle/Sun) products? Or by other vendors?

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"optimized" = marketing speak for "works"

> Oracle has been very clear that Oracle Linux, Oracle VM, and Solaris have been "optimized" for the new server, but is not explicit about precisely what that means.

This is classic marketing language for "it works, and we want you to use our OS rather than someone elses, but we can't find any proof points" I'd question this sort of language from any vendor, but from the Oracle marketing org, this is a real red flag.

One would assume that if these Oracle OSs were "optimized" for the server, they would back this up with benchmarks? Odd then that the only benchmark I can find for the X4470M2 is on MS Windows:

http://www.spec.org/jbb2005/results/res2011q2/jbb2005-20110405-00970.html

software & hardware engineered to work together? yeah right.

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re: ...only benchmark I can find for the X4470M2 is on MS Windows...

You look at one benchmark and say you can't find any? You didn't look very hard:

http://www.oracle.com/us/solutions/performance-scalability/sun-x86-systems-gateway-082396.html#x4270

There are 9 world records for the X4270 and Solaris, and 2 specifically for the M2 version with Solaris 10:

SPECfp_base2006

SPECjbb2005

Of course, I am sure that since this version is so new they are still working on more.

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depends what you call "looking"

So the article was about the X4470M2, _not_ the X4270M2.

And Oracle list only one benchmark for the X4470M2. If you can find more, please point them out.

And if you think a benchmark for a 2-socket x86 system with an Intel EP processor in it is in any way comparable to a 4-socket x86 system with an Intel EX processor in it (different processors and different chipset) then it just shows you don't know so much about x86 system (hey maybe you work for Oracle?)

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