A Canadian student has been suspended from school and had the police sicced on him due to satirical animations that he posted to YouTube. Jack Christie, a 12th-grade student at the Donald A. Wilson Secondary School in Whitby, Ontario, Canada, created the videos in his own time, off-campus. His animations in the Jack Christie …
"detrimental to the positive moral tone of the school"
what a hoot.
there does seem to be a trend in western schools.
"you will not do anything against our rules while you are under our jurisdiction"
"things that are against our rules include; whatever we feel like at the time. Areas under our jurisdiction are; wherever you happen to be at the time"
Now I am going to go and stick my positive moral tone into a fleshlight. I hope my teacher doesn't find out.
"Now I am going to go and stick my positive moral tone into a fleshlight. I hope my teacher doesn't find out."
You forgot to turn the secret webcam off.
Rules? What rules?
If you subscribe to a certain code, you agree to play by those rules; that seems a fair agreement.
So what you write, "you will not do anything against our rules while you are under our jurisdiction", should be answered by "yes".
Here however he's clearly not under their jurisdiction, he WAS not defaming the school or anything else that breaks that pact. So he WASN'T breaking any rules --- except possibly one of those unwritten (or so broad that they're effectively made-up retrospectively).
For example, we weren't allowed to smoke on the way home and/or when identifiable as pupils of the school; elsewhere and out of uniform you're obviously not under their jurisdiction (your parents' instead) so you cannot be told what to do.
That said, it's not clear to me why he's in that school --- of from any other place governed by a bunch that didn't foresee how this would play and disrupt their school as well as turn the school into a regional & international joke.
They are however probably preparing children very well for the world of 1950.
"elsewhere and out of uniform you're obviously not under their jurisdiction"
Well yes, that is exactly what SHOULD happen.
But more and more we are seeing schools getting involved where they are not welcome, on Internet forums and chat sites, spying on what their pupils say and taking them to task over it.
If the kid says something naughty, they get their butt kicked out of school.
It doesn't matter that to an outsider, there was absolutely nothing on the Internet that would have identified the kid as a pupil of school X.
It doesn't matter that the kid used his own equipment on his own time to exercise his own rights.
What matters is some busybody teacher saw a kid doing something s/he doesn't like. The teacher then proceeds to enact a personal vendetta against the kid by implementing the revocation of his or her education and qualifications - effectively a life sentence without trial - something that surely goes against every human right in the book.
And what do we do with these rouge teachers? We give them a promotion, a £150k salary, and put their name on a plaque for civic bravery. That crosses a line on the wrong side of "police state".
In a perfect world, something VERY different would happen to these "educators". And I wouldn't like to tell you what.
against the law to induce an epileptic fit
warning to you as it's against the law to induce an epileptic fit and can result in an fine or jail time (same warning will goto the youtube poster as well to put an box on the video when it plays to show an warning or i get google to remove it)
you have 1 day to add an warning that the Youtube video has flashing in it, before i send it to the related authorities
Schools are not there to teach kids anything, they are there to prepare kids for brainwashing by the industrial complex. Tests, at least up until 16 years of age, are just designed to ensure kids can spew facts verbatim with no thought for how answers are derives just so long as the answers are there. Kids will go out into the workplace and behave like good little citizens and not cause trouble by thinking for themselves. Any attempt at independent thought will be punished severely!
You will not attempt to show any sort of freedom of expression! If you attempt to reflect the true fact that life is, for the most part pretty pointless, you will be punished! You must not attempt to shine a light on society's follies! YOU WILL DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD!
"IF YOU DON'T EAT YOUR MEAT, HOW CAN YOU HAVE ANY PUDDING! YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YOU HAVEN'T EATEN YOUR MEAT!"
All together now...
"All in all it was all just bricks in the wall."
Or as John Kay put it...
They call you when you're six years old, and drag you to the factory
To train your brain for eighteen years with a promise of security
And then you're free
And forty years you waste, to chase the dollar sign
So you may die in Florida at the pleasant age of 69
And there's nothing you or I can do, you and I are only two
What's right and wrong is hard to say, forget about it for today
We'll stick our heads into the sand, just pretend that all is grand
And hope that everything turns out OK.
the only important thing about school
Is which one you went to.
You can be the world's biggest dumb ass, but with the right name on your CV you'll still become president.
"We give them a promotion, a £150k salary, and put their name on a plaque for civic bravery. "
Impressive. In the US a teacher outside of University would generally consider themselves lucky to make $40k a year.
thou shallt always show a happy face and pretend to be a good citiczen. keep your criticism to yourself and indoors. We want to show off only good positive attitude and not hint at the festering pile of crud underneath...
que guitar solo....
no this post is not required and it must not contain letters as there is no verbally describing the awesomeness of that guitar solo in 'the wall'.
As a qualified school teacher myself, I have to say:
Some people should never ever ever EVER be allowed near the developing minds and morality of children.
This school board is an exact example of such people.
They should be put on some sort of child-abuse offender's register banning them for life from working with or near children. I am not joking, This really is THAT serious.
the animations themselves were very entertaining - early Southpark entertaining. Very clever and creative lad, there.
as a teacher ....
I could not have said it better myself. Thanks!
Yeah - I immediately thought of South Park....and of the documentary made in the town said to be the inspiration - and that the local school declined to take part in the documentary.
My money is on the student government chief not standing up to the threat of punishment and Christie supporters not walking out of school.
Wait a minute wait a minute
I don't believe he does all the different voices - this man has accomplices!
(read the following in the voice of the old wisewomen from Black Adder)
They'd better SUSPEND EVERYONE in the WORLD!!!
or something like that
Schools shouldnt be punishing kids for what they do off campus, end of story.
Except if done in relation to the school.
If you drunkenly ride around town shouting at people and wearing school uniform, then yes -- you should be suspended for stuff you do off campus.
Which was not the case here. But now it is of course... So I guess they're justified now.
don't do things that harm the school's morale...
...liiike, suspending students for youtube satire and threatening anyone who expresses support for him?
If only school administrators were consistent - then they'd suspend -themselves-.
School admins seem to be cut from the same cloth. I was run out of high school on a rail after I won a scholarship. They made a big deal out of it (small school)... but when I signed up for a physics course a year early, the admin and the guidance counselor who let me sign up got in a turf war, and I was thrown out of the class mid-semester. I protested, and people got pissed... the school's pride and joy scholarship winner getting thrown out of an advanced course made the admin look bad. So he made my life intolerable until i quit, went to a 2 year college, and got my GED instead. Best decision i made...
Funny thing is that it was a fairly crappy little scholarship. Any good high school would have had many winners. So all of this was over a stupid little scholarship - and I wasn't even a very good student!
Since when was it the school's job to take the roll of the parent?
Oh. Wait ... nanny state. I forgot.
Schools have a responsibility towards thier pupils.
Schools are often taken to task for not looking after the kids.
Parents frequently absolve themselves of any responsibility once their kid is in school and shit on teachers for not controlling their child.
The 'Nanny State' (something must be done, won't someone think of the children etc. etc) is what they are actually demanding but scream like fuck when it applies to the way they are found to be shit parents .
Don't get me started on this one (too late!)
Well, that exactly IS the school's job while pupils are under their authority. That is the meaning of 'in loco parentis' which was explained to us in junior school in the '60s. It was even made clear that parents had no 'right' to wander into the building and could be removed (if absolutely necessary by involving the police.) If a school is going to have its own ethos, apply its own values on its own premises, and thereby give a chance to children whose parents frankly don't give a shit, that is the only way to do it. All this stuff about 'breaking down barriers between school and home' is rubbish and needs to be stopped dead.
As for the specific case in Canada: what a bitch!
Earth to idiots, re-read this bit: "on his own time, off campus".
That means PARENTAL responsibility applies. Not school district responsibility. But I think you'll find that (according to the article), he is 18 years old and an adult (by law) in his own right. If I were in his shoes, I'd take out the entire local school board for their heavy handed, illegal tactics.
My mind boggles at how many people seem to not only enjoy the nanny state, but actually invite it into their lives ...
Ms Bee, are you absolutely certain that "sheeple" is a cuss word?
 Oh, to be in my late teens again ...
I think you'll find this does nicely in UK schools...
Hope he can monetize this. Scoreboard, b*tches.
Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!
Your an idiot right ?
"a 12th-grade student at the Donald A. Wilson Secondary School in Whitby, Ontario, Canada"
His an idiot, right?
"You can't read!" - said the guy who can't spell.
This reminds me of...
.. that old movie "Pump up the volume"
How long before he hacks the school PA :)
School is School, Out of School is out of School
A school can have rules and some of those rules, like company policies can be restrictive on what a person can do on the companies time in companies facilities if the person wishes to remain at that school / employed by the company.
Also a company / school can also have policy clauses that would entitle it to take action if the behaviour of said employee /pupil outside of the school / company impacted negatively on that company / school that caused it to suffer harm.
Ignorance of those rules like laws isn't always an excuse BUT unlike laws there is a duty of care for the organisation to make its rules readily and freely available.
HOWEVER should they choose to take action against a person for either of the above two situations they better be sure that their policies / rules are within the greater national / state law and in taking action against and person, like this school board, they don't themselves cause the organisation to suffer harm above and beyond that which they perceived to have been caused by the person they are seeking to discipline.
I'd hazard a guess that this School Board is has been ill-advised as to its own importance, its duty of care, its authority and whether its actions are within the law.
I hope that someone helps this kid to take them to legal cleaners and to further compound the irony makes his video more famous. Maybe they will think twice about flexing muscles they don't actually have next time.
Have we been trolled?
is this for real or is it just another viral marketing trick?
That young man is a treasure. Hands off him!
> Ye Title <
HE'S A BEAUTIFUL PERSON !!! JUST LEAVE... HIM... ALONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Morse v. Frederick ("Bong hits for Jesus"). I am a teacher too, and have to agree with LaeMing. Authoritarianism has no longer any place in public education, and those who practice it should be laughed out of the business.
LOOK AT THE PUPPET!!
Look at the Puppet!!
Yep. I'm convinced.
Well, he just made his career, anmyhow :)
Stuff what the school board (yeah, respell that to b-o-r-e-d and you have a rough idea of their coolective IQ, I suspect) thinks, I reckon this lad has a career in animation and comedy, if he isn't sucked up into politics first ;-)
"Watch the f****** puppet die" rofl *veg*
Why We Must Disestablish School
Educationalist authoritarianism or feverish marketing: Ivan Illich had a point: "the institutionalization of values leads inevitably to physical pollution, social polarization, and psychological impotence"
Personall I blame the MPAA
cant have people making quality film without their permission - would blow all their arguments out of the water.
May the Streisand effect make you very rich, and may your pompous, incompetent school officials end up as paupers in the workhouse they are trying to build.
(Incidentally, whatever happened to Mrs. Dunn? Is she still teaching? Does she still drive a Toyota?...)
If it is for real...
...I hope someone gives him a job where he is paid more than the whole fucking school board.
Pretty sure the school bored is unpaid
And worth half as much.
They'll get him...
...for the music on the video's I guess....
Small minded, wanna-be, bureaucrats
Reminds me of my own end-time at high school.....
What's a title?
This is eerily similar to how I ended up "leaving" school back in '99.
What's the fuss about?
Just wanted to provide the URL for the 4 horrendous videos. Everyone knows that creativity is a thought crime these days. I just didn't know they were already including Canada.
Dare I say that nothing good will come of this? Of course I'm referring to the mindless censorship.
And as expected...
The number of views has gone way up as result of the school bored's actions. Still surprised there were only three videos involved (originally). Proverbial tempest in a teapot.
Just had a look at this stuff....
...and the lad is clearly gifted and could make something of himself in this genre.
Also bashed of an email to the school supporting him and suggesting that they don't realise how much grief is headed their way now that this is circulating on the net.
Be interesting to see if they bother giving me a reply.
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