Following yesterday's news that the Danish authorities had deprived Brit expats of their favourite yeast-based nourishment, the country's London embassy has seen fit to clarify the position vis-à-vis Marmite. According to this official statement, neither Marmite nor its Oz rival Vegemite are banned in Denmark, because they've …
that is all
it should be banned...
.. because its the foulest smear on the planet. Distilled from engine oil drained from a million mile truck
But that's what
gives it character!
Marmite is a crime against humanity.
I for one am emigrating to Denmark.
Now we're talking.
Cold, dead hands, eh?
The eugenics advocate in me wants to be thankful that this aberrant portion of the gene pool is autonomously volunteering to be removed.
"...thankful that this aberrant portion of the gene pool is autonomously volunteering to be removed"
Just remember...there is no Lifeguard at the Gene Pool.
I thought they just scraped it from the bottom of the barrel and put it in jars?
As an expat, a homebrewer and a marmite lover...
... let me say - I should be so lucky!
Paying Australian specialty-shop prices for Brit-Mite* is no fun at all!
(*it has to be relabelled due to Marmite already being a thing here, it's another yeast extract spread but it's just not the same)
I've seen it lablled as "Our Mate" and it's not that expensive at farmer hating Coles supermarkets, although not all Coles. A bit more expensive that vegemite of the 125g size but damn tastier.
Time trumpet might well be right
Perhaps an alliance between Tesco and Marmite...
All they are saying is that Marmite is claiming that it has added vitamins. It is claiming to have health benefits. Anything that says it has health benefits is claiming to be medicinal, therefore it has to be approved by their department that deals with medicines.
Since Marmite has not applied for approval, the sale of Marmite has not been approved. Therefore, it is not allowed to sell Marmite.
That was not so difficult, was it?
We shall go on til the end...
Yeeeess we get all that, but you're missing a huge opportunity for self-righteous Daily Fail style jingoistic ranting!
MY MATE! MARMITE! Shall be the battlecry!
It's a brave move from the Danes - what are they going to do - throw Lego at us? ;-)
Throw LEGO® at us?
*Fetches more buckets*
It may be the food industry's counterpart to Agent Orange [use industrial waste and repackage it], but the sanity of the principle of "everything which has not been allowed by a committee of government cave dwellers is forbidden" eludes me.
Also, In Soviet Russia, Marmite eats you!
Claiming added vitamins
and claiming health benefits, are not necessarily the same thing.
Vitamin and health concerns aside, Marmite is the finest spread available to top one's toast with, and the Danes are missing out. More fool them.
Subversive Salty Spreads Suspended!!!
Meanwhile quack-medicine and alt-med goes from strength to strength.
Well there is some regulation
Health food shops flipped their wigs when the EU implemented a food supplements directive. The reason for their ire? That supplements had to scientifically prove they were safe in order to be approved products.
It's better than nothing but doesn't go anywhere close to far enough IMO. Stuff like homeopathy may be safe but it's also utterly useless. And it seems that chinese medicine stores are setting up shop in virtually every shopping centre these days with signs promoting various bogus treatments. Where is the regulation for this?
Well, the health food shops flipped their wigs because of the cost of testing - what did you expect, they are businesses after all. By many measures fashion and homoeopathy are both useless, are you going to call for fashion to be made illegal? Chinese medicine stores are exactly that and I'll bet you they could rustle up a heck of a lot of first class research to show that their medicines work. All you would have to argue with is percentages.
Phooey - laws are for real problems.
It's quite simple, if you manufacture a product that claims medicinal properties then the burden of proof should be on you to prove your claims and to prove the product works. Given that Holland and Barrett is packed with supplements, herbs and vitamins which didn't fall foul of this regulation, I'd say it was a fuss about nothing.
I don't even know where to start with your comparison between fashion and chinese medicine and homeopathy. The consequences of wearing flares are slightly less dire than eschewing a proper evidence based medical treatment for quackery. The rules that require supplements prove themselves safe should also be required to prove themselves efficacious beyond placebo and those rules should apply whether we're talking chinese medicine, herbal supplements, vitamins or anything else of that nature.
Holland & Barrett campaigned against the EU directive -"They're perfectly safe and they've been on sale for decades" -Peter Aldiss, managing director of Holland and Barrett - but didn't succeed in stopping it . So, business is business, I presume they had to comply.
That doesn't make it a particularly useful law though.
By that logic all food has health benefits. Were I not to eat any my health would suffer. So all food is medical then ?
I expect Denmark like most countries has regulations with regard to food supplements, i.e. things which are not foods in the traditional sense but supplement food with nutrients like vitamins, iron and so on. Is marmite a food? Well you eat it for sure, but it also claims to be good for you, to be fortified with vitamins and so on. Therefore perhaps it falls on the wrong side of the fence as far as Danish law is concerned.
The simple answer would be to submit the product for approval and see for certain if it is approved and if not on what grounds it was denied. In the absence of that, we get the usual hysteria from the likes of the Daily Mail who never let facts, reason or mitigating circumstances get in the way of a good story.
I've always like the Danes really...
....I don't care what people say about them. If an entire government can come together in perfect, simple, logical harmony to rid its country from a disgusting product like this, it's alright by me.
My girlfriend on the other hand was genuinely quite shocked, I tried to help ease her consternation by explaining, thus, "It smells like sh*t, it looks like sh*t and I can only imagine it's trying its best to taste like sh*t."
Her, quite defiantely: "Actually, it looks like it's because of the fortification."
Me, "Then it's fortified with sh*t as well."
She gave me the finger and not in any good way...
If your sh*t looks like marmite...
...then I suggest you need to see a doctor and get that problem sorted out.
In a good way?
The mind boggles, but please do not explain and just leave us all in blissful ignorance
Once upon a time the Danes were regarded as uninhibited and liberal - now they appear to be up-tight and xenophobic.
Mind you, I wouldn't touch the foul stuff myself. Or Vegemite for that matter; equally inedible.
Boycott Danish Bacon & Lego
If they won't take our Marmite, we won't eat their bacon, or build with their bricks.
And what about Carlsburg and Tubourg, Ha.
Re: Boycott Danish Bacon & Lego
Wouldn't touch their bacon with a barge pole. Its 90% water anyway. Lego, however....I don't think my boys would forgive me if I didn't let them play with lego.
Carlsburg and Tubourg
Is that the same thing I have come to know and detest as Near frozen Gnat's Urine (TM)?
Lego - aarhg
I blame Lego for the plethora of awful, lego-concrete-glass so-called architecture blighting Europe. The so-called architects are still thinking in Lego terms.
Boycott Lego, switch to Meccano!
Mind you sadly nowadays Meccano is owned and made by the French!!! Frank Hornby must be spinning in his grave (on an axle supported by a flat trunion and helical gear)
Where did that icon come from?
It's not on the list I see below.
All you need to do
is post anonymously!
I wonder what else El Reg has up it's sleeve (or behind the mask!)
try posting anonymously.
you ain't seen me, roight?
<Sharks with frickin lasers>Title
Just fishing to see if I can discover another icon. Oh, and down with Denmark, the marmite menacers.
Now that's a thought.
But they've even put up a statue to it...
...The Little Marmite?
Typical storm in a teacup
If ever Marmite did apply for sale in Denmark and was refused, the problem has an easy solution - don't fortify the stuff with vitamins. Marmite's alleged health giving properties are somewhat moot anyway when the stuff is yeast sludge mixed with salt. I enjoy marmite on toast with a cup of tea but I don't do it for my health.
Besides how many expats are there in Denmark who wouldn't be flying home to the UK at least once a year. A jar of Marmite lasts for so long that it's not hard to carry a jar over.
Vitamin B12 is bad for you?
If you don't fortify Marmite then vegans and vegetarians in particular (or anyone with an inability to absorb vitamin B12 such as the elderly) could suffer problems because of a lack of vitamin B12. The effects of a deficiancy of B12, if not treated include permanent damage to your nervous system.
Vitamin B12 has low levels of toxicity even when taken in high doses.
So vegans / vegetarians have no other way of obtaining these vitamins
So how do vegetarians in Denmark survive without marmite? Is there a blackmarket in this life giving substance? Or could it be that there are other sources of vitamins? I bet most vegetarians are taking supplements anyway.
It's all academic of course since the story is puffery. I expect if marmite were submitted it would get a rubber stamp and that would be that.
Marmite has grown weak over the years. It used to be a selling point that only a very small ammount was needed on your toast. Now, you won't taste anything unless you use a big dollop. Same small jars though. What a crock.
"Marmite has grown weak over the years."
Sure about that? Or is it your taste buds that have grown weak over the years?
Avoid the Squeezey one.
Ban Bacon & Lego(tm)???
Will someone please think of the children!!!!
Immigrants going over there and refusing to integrate! They should go back where they came from!
Perhaps the Danes can go on to lead the way
and extend this display of ofermod to banning McDonalds, KFC and other foul concoctions that pass as food, sorry, that are thrust upon us as food, here in the EU.
Ofermod? Tolkien fans will know what I'm talking about. As will (ironically in view of the Tolkien connection) any Danes reading this.
But what happens to all the yeast left over from brewing Carlsberg? They could be making probably the best marmite in the world...