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Rockstar has turned the heat up on Sony's PlayStation 3 again last night, after a forum post by one of its reps claimed the latest PS3 firmware update, version 3.61, is to blame for reports of older PS3 models overheating and uncontrollably shutting down. “We have received some reports of PS3s overheating while playing L.A. …

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Coincidence

Sounds like coincidence to me, the old model machines are getting on a bit now and failing. My launch model failed in exactly the same way a long time ago.

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Did reghardware just get back from the pub?

You do know that stories like this appear EVERY time there is a firmware update or big software title release don't you?

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Sure

Scene sites has been all over these overheating failures since every firmware released after 3.41, they've completely overlooked the fact that PSN's been down because of it.

Oh wait...

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Blimey

Sony aren't content with going to the toilet with their trousers still up just once are they?

Still, cheers for the warning. As my PS3's little but an iPlayer watcher now I'm in no rush to upgrade anyway. Good luck to those of you that use it for games!

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Wait

People use PS3s for gaming now?

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Errm of course

Perhaps you missed the bit where the PS3 Gamer userbase overtook the Xbox one...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7386879.stm

www.inquisitr.com/102342/ps3-overtakes-xbox-360/

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Re: People use PS3s for gaming now?

I hear some people do. Crazy!

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So in summary...

The source is a "Rockstar rep", who read about a console on overheating on the EU Playstation forums, and then posted it as official news.

Good job he didn't use IRC, as I saw a chat log showing that PS3's exploded when the firmware was updated.

Seriously, the El-Reg need to sort their shit out BADLY. They clearly are so blinded by Sony Hate, they can no longer sort out fact from FUD.

This story is the most pathetic El-Reg reporting I think I have ever seen.

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indeed

i cannot completely rule out my PS3 ate the pet rabbit one of my neighbours misses since yesterday while updating to the new firmware, since that also happened yesterday.

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So much for the super console

Remember way back when Sony was touting the PS3 as the media hub of the home and how it would multi task video playback and making the tea? To date it's been good at playing Blu-ray discs, video games that have yet to tap it's full potential and streaming media. On the streaming media player front I suspect many users will migrate to Xbox or HTPC now that Cinavia is loaded into the PS3 firmware.

With region free blu-ray players now available with superior video processing and can act as a DLNA client too, without Cinavia limitations, the PS3 is not longer the best choice for media playback IMHO. The Oppo Bluray player or a dedicated HTPC is a better choice for videophiles.

It's only video games that are keeping the PS3 alive for now, but if Sony doesn't sort out the network issues, even exclusive titles won't save the PS3.

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"It's only video games that are keeping the PS3 alive for now..."

Asides those early adopters willing to shell out 400 quid on a toy, who seriously buys a PS3 primarily for playing blu-ray disks now?

The game is just the start? No; it's the start, end, and middle too. At least, ever since Sony got rid of Other OS. Now that's a decision that I think some execs are kicking themselves over, given recent events.

Poor old Sony, I almost feel sorry for them. They've had nothing but cock-ups the last few weeks!

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Well

I gotta say that my PS3 is primarily a blu-ray player and DLNA client. I intended to play games on it when I got it, I really did, but most of my games just sit and collect dust now. Ditto for my Wii and PC games and the emulation station PC I built into the case of an old NES. I just don't have the time to sit and play games anymore. If I were to go out and get a replacement for the PS3 now I would DEFINATELY not be getting another PS3.

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Find out tomorrow

LA Noire ready to go when I get back from business trip tomorrow - Older 40Gb PS3 and the only game which ever gets the fans whirring all the way up was last year's Red Dead Redemption.

We'll see how it handles LA Noire, but given RDR's fan beating performance, I don't think it's the firmware that's to blame...

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Other high stress games OK

Haven't heard of anyone getting a crash with any of the push PS3 hard games.

Actually I reckon it may be lack of use and dust buildup.

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WTF?

"we are continuing to test L.A. Noire on all firmware versions"

sooo... "L.A. Noire" doesn't need firmware 3.60 that is meant to protect it from piracy?

any way, I have the 40GB UK Fat module, and it haven't misbehaved since I installed the update.

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40GB UK Fat

"any way, I have the 40GB UK Fat module, and it haven't misbehaved since I installed the update."

Me too, the report says it's only the 60/80GB UK Fat models playing up though. So I think "phew" or more likely "odd, the size of the hard disk shouldn't matter" and then subsequently "or is it all just FUD and it's just older models doing the thing they do best - failing with old age?"

I don't know, just speculation... :-P

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"odd, the size of the hard disk shouldn't matter"

I agree, but having been inside around 5 PS3s from 40-80gb (mostly for broken BR drive mechanisms or YLODs) I can confirm that I've never seen two that have been the same, on the inside atleast. Sony seem to have revised the innards quite alot since the original models - including replacing the original 19 blade fan with a cheaper and crapper 15 blade version which IMO contributes alot to the amount of YLODed consoles out there - (in my experience it is usually caused by repeated and prolonged overheating, melting the solder on some of the chips and breaking contact with the board, causing the yellow hardware failure light to come on).

I have a 60gb older model (read: bought on uk release day) which did get the YLOD once but has behaved since I fixed it, and didn't get noticeably warmer after 3.61.

That said, I was playing MGS4 on a friends' console (60gb model, slightly newer) last night and after 45 minutes it beeped three times and switched itself off.

Coincidence?

More like CONSPIRACY!!

EVIL corporations TAKING our MONEY for their CONSPIRACY PLANS to make the human race INFERTILE etc etc.

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Overheating

It might help if people cleared the vents occasionally. I had issues with my old PS3 getting louder and louder until I took the trouble to hoover about half a pound of dust from the vents. I actually do expect it to fail someday soon, but then I've had it since shortly after launch so it's already lasted as long as about 5 xbox's - actually facetious comments aside it really has outlasted my friends 360, and its warranty replacement.

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Update

Rockstar have since changed their tune

http://support.rockstargames.com/entries/20126677-what-to-do-if-you-are-crashing-or-freezing-in-l-a-noire

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That was posted 2 days ago.

Hardly an update on a comment made last night.

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Happy

Call me cynical...

But did anyone else think this was a cynical advertising ploy by Rockstar to get one of their games, a no very well known non-GTA title, a bit more free publicity?

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Well known?

LA Noire, "Not very well known"??? Dude, have you not seen the advertising campaign, it's being hyped as one of the games of the year? I'm sure it will be too.

While there could potentially be an element of truth in your statement, Rockstar hardly need the publicity.

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by telling everyone it will YLOD their consoles?

i think not

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All according to plan...

Sony would very much like to brick those old, pesky PS3s that do more than the current gen.

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Hmm... lets see. What are the ingredients here?

Take a 4 year old console that's been heavily played. Stir in a power hungry CPU and GPU combination that put's out considerable watts of heat. Add some thermal paste that is aging, and 1 aging fan that contains 4 years of accumulated dust and grime. Mix well and add to a PSU that's aging and less efficient than it used to be and you have a recipe for excess heat production in an environment that cannot remove the heat as effectively as it could when new.

Now, take that recipe and bake with new games that push the performance of the hardware further and further and you end up with a situation where older consoles stand a decent chance of overheating - thanks to their age. It's inevitable really. Heck, I have an older PC at home that needed a new video card because the Geforce 7x00 series GPU in it fried itself after 5 years, and that's in a well ventilated case with two extra fans.

This isn't the firmware, as much as the haters and conspiracy theorists would like it to be, it just isn't. It's consoles that were state of the art when built, and running at the edge of the envelope in terms of the thermal performance of the system. There's really no surprise here for anyone, A system's thermal performance will decrease as it ages, it simply will not remove as much heat as it did when new. yet at the same time the PSU becomes less efficient and produces more heat and software places ever greater demands on the hardware resulting in more heat.

The system is designed to cope with that, but some will perform less well than the reference design, and they may suffer a failure as the heat outpaces the cooling. Anything else would be a great surprise.

What can be done? Well, if you own an older PS3, have it professionally cleaned, have new thermal paste applied to the heat sink, consider replacing the power supply with a newer, more efficient one and possibly replace the fan with a new one. these are all sensible precautions you would take with an older PC - assuming you wanted to keep it running. Why would we imagine a PS3 (or 360) would be any different?

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WTF?

dont want crappy new one

i very much like my old fat 80gb model - it plays PS2 games, its got SDCard for data and its got more USB. it used to run Linux 'til Sony started messing around and removing features from my console for me (thanks Sony - thaks a lot - I bought a Toshiba TV instead of a Sony TV because of that - and I'm about to buy an Amazon Kindle instead of a Sony e-reader because of that too - after all, what if you decide to stop me reading certain formats of books on it in the future? )

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So when can we expect the Xbox360 headline story about overheating?

As it apparently affects them too....

http://support.rockstargames.com/entries/20126677-what-to-do-if-you-are-crashing-or-freezing-in-l-a-noire

"Delete your L.A. Noire Game Data (not save data) from the PS3 Game Data Utility. If on 360, clear the 360 cache."

Of course we know that won't happen, as Xbox bad news gets buried by certain American writers, and non-American products have any dirt they can dig thrown at them....

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Of course

Sony will replace the defective PS3 like MS did with xbox's, just I'm sure they would charge $350 shipping and handling for it

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Actually...

...for out of warranty systems, it's about $150 and you can get a refurb of the same model, or you can get s refurb'd slim for about $20 less.

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Sar far one game has had our PS3 working hard

And that is Uncharted 2.

Hence why I think it is mainly dust.

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