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Sometimes the Mark II versions of phones feel like they’ve had little more than a light skim with the update brush. Yet with the Samsung Galaxy S II, this is certainly not the case. While, the original Galaxy S was a fine handset, this latest refit includes dual core processor, stunning AMOLED screen, a fine 8Mp camera, over-air …

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Unhappy

huh? no HDMI?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! that was the deal breaker right there for me. i was almost tempted to get my upgrade today and that was the phone for me :(

i was sure i saw it in a spec sheet somewhere. oh well.

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oh, actually...

the galaxy S2 has HDMI over micro USB. so.... might want to write that into your article Mr El. Reg.

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indeed

I was about to post this. A couple of other review sites updated their reviews as apparantly they didnt get a "dongle" in their review sample either.

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Pretty poor El Reg

Everyone with half a braincell would research something before/whilst they review it right? Its been common knowledge since before this phone was released that it supports HDMI.

Also, my heavy use of this phone as a web portal and with two Push connections has shown me a diferent verdict on battery. Frankly i'm astounded that I can use it all day and easily have half a battery left ..... My HD2 running 2.3.3 failed misreably at this.

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It does have HDMI

It does have HDMI, it just goes out through a combo micro USB connector, that can detect which type of cable you've plugged in.

Personally, I'm pretty happy with having just one socket for both things, cause multiple sockets around the edges of a phone kinda suck

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@Monty

Yes, same here - battery life in normal use is way better than the old Galaxy S, I suspect it would go two days without a charge with my usage. Although it can still be flattened in three or four hours using critical business applications, for example Tower Raiders. That really hammers the CPU, though.

I think this is the nicest phone I've ever owned or used.

GJC

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Micro USB/HDMI adapter

The official Samsung HDMI adapter doesn't look to be out for quite a while yet but there's one by BizLite over at Mobile Fun that should be in over the next fortnight http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-m...ack-p29839.htm

Quite annoying having no TV-out on the 3.5mm jack though!

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Quote

The social hub pulls all your networking updates (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn) together into a single feed – something no smartphone can do without these days, and it does a perfectly good job of it too

Can't do without eh? Yes you can. Unless you want to risk getting your identity stolen or worse still telling the world when you are going to do some Number 2's. As for linkedIn, my (now deleted) details attracted crap from all over the world that mostly said 'Hi do you remember me? I worked with you at xxxx in yyyy.' Naturally they wanted me to sponsor them for their green cards despite the fact that my profile clearly stated that I Was in the UK.

Utter Tosh the whole lot.

Fail.

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I read this twice

and all I could decipher was "I have no friends so social networking must be EVIL"

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@Some Beggar

On the contrary, people with friends tend to socialise with them rather than right some shit in an app that gets broadcast around their pretend posse.

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"write"

I suppose illiteracy is a pretty good reason to avoid online social networks.

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@Some Beggar

Doesn't seem to stop any of those who actually use 'em regularly.

The standard of literacy on FaceWank and Tw@ter is piss-poor even when compared to the worst of the worst around here.

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Re:"Write"

Oh yes, pick holes in a point based merely on a spelling mistake. Do you also believe louder is right-er?

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lol

Well, lets see, Facebook offers you many ways to waste time and gossip, while making use of your data to make money by selling its use to whoever pays for it.

Its a smash hit...

Google Wave was a social productivity tool, giving people a useful, sophisticated interface for collaboration, who's contacts would make sense to integrate into your phone.

It flopped miserably...

So, we see, it doesn't mean you have no friends if you don't like facebook, it just means you don't feel like wasting a load of time on playing bejewelled and doing pointless quizzes to bolster some scheisters bottom line.

And we see, if you prefer being productive, you're in the minority.

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oh you gotta check this out, Beggar

Josh Groban sings Kayne West Tweets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Axzxe1a78E

Its positively hilarious!!

"Includes 752 original songs"

"on 48 CD's"

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@N13L5

Oh I'm not arguing that facebook isn't a complete waste of time peopled by functionally illiterate skivers. I was just teasing the original poster. Facebook is probably one of the harbingers of the digital apocalypse.

(Although a small amount of pipl'ing suggests that you are also one of the feckless majority with a facebook account ... apologies for internet stalking)

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Pedant Ahoy!

The Galaxy SII does not come with 8Gb of internal storage, it comes with 16Gb (of which approx 12Gb is available to the user as 'USB Storage', 2Gb for applications, the remainder is not accessible). As such there is no included Micro SD card (but up to 32Gb is supported). There is also a model in the works with 32Gb of internal storage.

Also, the phone does support a HDMI connection via the MicroUSB port using the MHL standard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-definition_Link

The MHL cable is not included in the retail box (and mine's still awaiting shipment)

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I vote

that the author give lazygamer a cut of the fee for the original article.

What do you mean this isn't a democracy?

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So what...

Dual core processing but still no DVB-T reciever chip on any of these 'modern' phones?! Or is it down to our TV licencing these things dont appear on hardcore modern smartphones???

HD capable pico projector when on a charger? NO.... So many features still missing Samsung!

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Re: So what...

Do you want the 'Moon on a Stick' too?

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NO DVB-T because no aerial

You wouldn't get any signal without a relatively large external, preferably directional, aerial.

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title

And why would you want it when you can stream TV via tvcatchup.com?

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85%?

Seems a little low for a review without negative points. what did you not like about it?

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Re 85%

You lose 20% for having no apple logo, so it's actually a really really good phone :p

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Agreed

Especially when you consider the unfinished and underwhelming Playbook got 75%....

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10% Apple tax

Anything that does not have an Apple logo, however good it is, is subject to an Apple review tax of 10%

For non-Apple products, add 10% to the real score

For Apple products, subtrace 10% to get the real score.

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UMA

Any ideas if this thing does UMA?

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re:Social notworking

Sorry I think he was talking about normal people who actually buy the phone, not self-styled internet guardians who make up 0.01% of the market.

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missing features?

it does HDMI via Micro-USB/MHL while also taking a charge as far as I know, and mine has video calling available (although as nobody I'd want to video call has a capable handset, I've not used it yet).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA

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Making and receiving telephone calls

As this device would be my main busines telephone contact, what I want to know if how good a phone is it? Good aerial? Decent call quality? I am sold on the Android bits. Thanks

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Battteries (again)

Battery life on smartphones is ridiculous. I have a (lowly) Wildfire, and am staggered at what it can do, but the idea that less-than-a-day of heavy(ish) use is acceptable is just stupid. I'd rather it was 2mm thicker and had a battery twice the size.

On a related note, can anyone put to rest for me the question of whether killing applications with task managers actually has an impact (as comments seem to be evenly split)?

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No task killers from Froyo onwards

The general consensus seems to be that task killers are not required from Froyo onwards, due to the OS's much-improved memory and application handling. I've used ATK since Donut, but recently uninstalled it on Froyo after reading a very convincing article (http://www.droid-den.com/android-guides/android-guide-should-i-use-a-task-killer) - it seems to have had a positive impact not only on the battery life but the general usage and reliability of HTC Desire.

I'd say with the further improvements in Gingerbread, Task Killers are very quickly becoming redundant.

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Ta very much

Very lucid article.

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Task Managers / Task Killers

A general consensus is that from Android 2.1, you shouldn't really use task killers as a background app. The 2.1 version onwards should be intelligent enough to kill apps who are wrecking the system. Also, killing apps and having itself launch again in the background uses CPU cycles causing battery life use. Hope this was helpful.

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A couple of other things

I've had one for a couple of weeks now and there are a few inaccuracies in the review:

First off, as pointed out elsewhere, it does support HDMI out.

Also, while it doesn't have a contextual search button the way some other devices do, you can start up contextual search by holding down the menu button.

Finally, every review seems to omit the fact that the phone is incapable of reading metadata from AAC files. It can play them perfectly well, but the media scanner appears to have been customised from the vanilla Android version (which scanned AAC files perfectly well). As a result, AAC tracks are just organised by file name in the music player instead of by artist/album/genre.

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Great phone, but missing a trick

Samsung originally said that they were working with Cisco to put an AnyConnect VPN client onto the S2, (a major failing of Android for business use) but my S2 has no such capability.

Still a good phone, but this would have been great.

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CPU obsession!

What is it with smartphone manufacturers obsession with faster/dual core CPUs?

As far as I'm concerned, the CPU is my original HTC Desire was more than adequate for anything that can be thrown at it today. What we really, really, need now is better batteries, not more processing power!

I've since replaced my Desire with a Desire HD, which has a "better" processor, but an even smaller battery capacity than the Desire. I'd swap it out tomorrow for a similar device that gave me a *full* day of heavy use on a single charge, without loss of functionality.

As far as I'm concerned, dual core is pretty much just a marketing gimmick on phones right now.

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True

"It can record HD video too at up to 1920 x 1080, which you’ll only find on dual core handsets, which looks crisp and generally smooth."

Not for long.

I've got a phone here with a single core < 1Ghz CPU, but a very good GPU and that is capable of 1080P encoding/playback, large resolution camera support, >PS2 3d support etc etc. Battery life in days, not hours. You don't need twin ARM cores for HD record/playback - that is almost always done by the GPU core. In fact, mobile GPU's use *much* less power for encoding than doing the same job on a multipurpose CPU.

Probably the best reasons for noticeably better app performance is the extra memory, not the extra CPU, which just soaks up battery life, for a few percent improvement in performance.

Twin cores or more will eventually take over however, as the power management gets better, so you only use two when needed etc.

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who needs more than 640k?

Anyone remember that sentence? (That I don't think was actually said!)

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Agreed

I have a Desire HD, and it's rooted/custom ROM installed and so on, and I'm more than happy with the speed of it. I never have once thought I needed more power from it. But battery life? Yes, I want a lot more. I'd rather they stuck with the processor that's in the Desire HD and kept making the process smaller and smaller and sticking a proper size battery on the back.

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which one

"I've got a phone here with a single core "

Which 'phone? Care to name it?

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Camera Flash

Any word on how effective the LED flash is on this model? It's one of the only things lacking on my orginal S and might tempt me to upgrade.

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LED flash is...

on the whole, a bit pants. Still, I suppose it's better than nothing. But xenon is much better in every photographic way. It's just more expensive to build in, and a bit more expensive in battery life.

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the specs says it has 16GB of internal memory

or 32gb - Where did you get the 8GB from?

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WTF?

85%? Really?

The review was simply glowing with very few negative points (of which they were all relatively minor). I really don't understand why it has gotten 85%. I would expect a review of such positive light would receive 95% or higher.

Negative points you raise:

1. Rather flimsy plastic back panel.

2. There’s no hard camera shutter button.

3. The Game Hub needs a bit of development to mark it out as an improvement on what you can get from the standard Android Market.

4. [Camera] Colours can look a little over-emphasised on screen

5A. I never managed to get a full day of, admittedly, heavy use out of it [battery]

5B. the battery life isn't the greatest

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1. However, it's completely sturdy when attached to the phone so I feel this point is fairly irrelevant.

2. This is a personal choice so the negativeness of this is down to your own preference. For me it's a non-issue.

3. The Samsung Gamehub is a waste of time. It was the first thing I uninstalled. Most users will also be uninstalling this or simply ignoring it. I would say it's a stronger negative point that Samsung chose to include the bloatware in the first place.

4. It's subjective how big of an issue this is. Probably ok for most people as a camera phone isn't a replacement for a dedicated camera. I hadn't really noticed this issue but accept that this is a valid minor negative point if it genuinely is an issue.

5A and 5B. I personally think the battery of this phone has been amazing. I don't think there is any other *comparable smartphone out there that has better battery life. Therefore, by definition it is close to being the greatest (if not the greatest).

* It's no good comparing battery life of this phone against a non-smartphone feature phone. Likewise, comparing this against a similar smartphone using an extended battery is not fair either. A good comparison would be against a similar spec smartphone with a battery capacity of around ~1650mAh (same as SGS2).

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Atrix better

I'm liking my Atrix which I got from Orange and as an upgrader I got a free dock and bluetooth gubbins. It's super quick and came with all the cables which enable me to connect it to my Samsung (doh) screen via the dock and its "included" HDMI cable. I had a Tocco - yeah I know - which had a great capacity to suck dust from my pocket under its screen, which put me off the brand rather. My ZTE Blade has done the same; I hope that this irritating phenomenon becomes history.

Sorry I'm boring you.

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Purposeful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA

Watch this video and then tell me if you think the materials are still 'flimsy' or 'sub-par'. I just cannot understand the obsession with making phones out of glass and metal as if they were 300 year-old compasses. It's retarded - but it is at least amusing when you meet an iPhone owner relieved that only the back of their phone has smashed to pieces.

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Rootable?

Is it? Presume so. I might be interested.

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rooted

Rooted (took a week) and custom kernels are available. The Voodoo Project (supercurio) is working on a similar Voodoo Colour and Voodoo Sound kernel mod for the S2. Please refer to the xda-developers forum.

As I write there are no proper custom ROMs available, but it has only been out for 19 days (in the UK).

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