Re: WPA2 CUDA

It's the same old problem. 128/256 bit security and a 64 bit password (16 chars with half byte ASCII).

WPA2 is incredibly safe even against your CUDA just so long as you choose a password that makes people cry if you ask them to read it to you. :P

Most passwords are pretty shit if analysed to a bit depth level.

You could churn out a billion brute force guesses a second and still not scratch a proper 256bit password.

256 Bit = 2 to the 256 = 1.15 X 10 to the power of 77.

That's 77 mofo zeros at the end. I struggle to understand such a large number. A billion is a paltry 9 zeros. It's literally a minute rounding error in comparison. The sun would have consumed all it's hydrogen and consumed the earth in a fiery hell before your password was compromised.

Just a reminder people.

P.S. DES was going to be 128-bit until the NSA asked IBM to make it less good (yes, way back in the 70s).

Ah, so you MUST be guilty!

No reason to look for anyone else who might have used your wifi, as you've assured us that it's absolutely impregnable. Lock him up!

Seriously, though, this is a situation where "pretty good" security might very well be more dangerous than none. If you're not using WPA2 and "a password that makes people cry if you ask them to read it to you", you're probably at less risk (from this threat) if you just leave your wifi open.

Re: Err...

You're missing the point.

This isn't about trying to hide your kiddy pr0n, it's about trying to avoid getting busted and having your life permanently ruined for something you didn't do. My point is that if you don't have the ability and inclination to secure your wifi extremely well, it might be safer to create plausible deniability.

Actually... OUR "local police"...

Our cops, actually call the press, and local news-crews, BEFORE they make a "child-porn" arrest, so the media can record the entire "bust/raid". And, then the cops do a "perp walk" (marching the suspect around) for the cameras... publishing the name, address, and photos of the "accused", within hours.

And, based upon the usual "letters to the editor" ANYONE accused is tried, found GUILTY, and sometimes... sentenced to "death" (by the local idiots)... before even a single piece of "evidence" is heard. In fact, some of these IDIOTS were actually demanding the lynching (and death) of the wife of a "suspect" (who the police flatly-stated was in no way involved, suspected, or being further investigated). Our "law-enforcement" aren't just "idiots"... they are psychotic-thugs.

Households != Population

Whilst there are well over 300 million Americans each one of those does not constitute the definition of a Household. Not all Americans live on their own, many come in "family packs" which constitute a household instead.

Therefore growth of approx 115 million households to 201 million households is either massive population increase or a whole lot of families splitting up and living on their own.

No, that doesn't add up.

There are 312 million people in the US, but an average 2.55 people per household. There should be only something like 122 million households.

In fact, reffering back to the AP story, I see it's a misquote. That was supposed to be 201 Million households WORLDWIDE.

"worldwide" instead of "US"

You mean there's civilisation outside of the blessed US of A? Beyond Alaska?!

The mind boggles.

Tin foil hat for sale

as title

Sir

"Tin foil hat for sale"

Does it protect against wi-fi?

Couldn't agree more!

You're far better people than me in allowing people free access. I think my wireless network is the only one bothering to use any encryption in my street.

I've even warned some of the neighbours about this sorta thing only to have them shrug!

I suppose the silver lining is in that anyone wanting to get upto something will leave my connection alone as it's easier to access SKY181 or [insert_easily_researchable_router_model_with_default_admin_passwords] down the road... *shrug* =)

Hmmm

The BT FON acts like two separate routers. People connecting from 'outside' use a different SSID and get a different IP address. I don't know what MAC address the router presents though so it might still be possible to trace the data back to a particular box. I would hope that when BT were contacted they would be able to explain that it had nothing to do with the owner of the box and they should pursue the FON account holder.

LaFonera

The FON still shows the same external IP as accessing the website as the real account holder. For the police to access the account holders information they must contact BT and request details. Which at this point BT will supply both access lists for the real router and also the Fon router.

re: BTFON

I am not on BT but bought a FON router for £40 so I can use for free any of the millions of BTFON HomeHubs all over the country. For my part of the bargin I just leave the FON router plugged in to my LAN.

Any users do not come out of my IP address, they are routed to come out of BT's. Since they sign in BTFON has a record of their connection including their name and any details linked to their BT Internet account.

You are .......

JOKING I hope!!!!

BT will Hahahahahahahehehehehehehahahahahahaha

Hmm 2

Nice in practice but FON have never been the most customer focused company. This has been raised before many times on the FON boards and the answer is alweays to bury heads in sand and say that is not an issue.

Lets face it just like in this case the police WILL assume the owner is at fault, they chose to share the connection and assume they are guilty.

Many Many people have BT FON because they don't know better and are opted in by simply using the BT homehub. You could always get free access on FON by signing up as a "alien" with a email account and watching a advert. Add in disposable hotmail / yahoo/gmail accounts and the downloader could be effectly anonymous.

With free wifi being more common in pubs, cafes, shops etc Fon's time has been and gone, unfortunalty it's security hole will linger on for BT customers.

Re: "I think, this is part of a bigger "security" picture."

Correct.

The phrase is "Unstoppable march to the utopian police state". Aided and abetted (in the UK) by the likes of the Daily Fail and other self appointed vigilante groups".

As for the "milion CP images" referenced, it sounds like the police are systemically failing to do what they are paid for (there's a first.), ie blocking this filth at source.

Unless of course, they just don't care...

How do you know for sure the 14 year old was innocent?

I mean, if the chosen one believed Stan Shunpike wasn't a Deatheater, couldn't you be wrong too?

hey muscleguy

..bad news. You make it clear that you know the risks and that you know your network isn't very secure and you also state that a neighbour has a more easily hackable wifi setup. Nevertheless a load of smartarses on here are going to "enlighten" you with their wisdom about how easy it would be to hack your wifi.