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It doesn't happen often, but today it has. US troops, serving alongside British forces in combat, have looked enviously at the kit furnished to our boys and girls and demanded that the Pentagon get off its ass and buy them similar stuff. More normally, things would be the other way around. The kit in question is the armoured …

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Does anybody else...

...remember the scene in Apacalypse Now? "Why are you guys sitting on your helmets?"

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Did you mean...

Alpacalypse Now? That is one amazing film!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpaca

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You know,

An alpaca ønce bit my sister...

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Actually-

I did know that!

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Alpaca bites...

...can be nastii.

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Re: Alpacalypse Now?

Wasn't Al Pacano in that film? Or was it Marlon Brando?

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okaaaay,

If ever there was a time when the phrase 'cutting edge' should be avoided, this was it.

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Napolionic wars.. pah!

Genghis Khans troops routinely wore silk shirts, not just to please the ladies, but because they made getting the arrowheads out of shot troopers that much easier;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_armour

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Not large..

Presumably, being Americans they won't be needing the larger sizes issued to our well-endowed squaddies.

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I've used them ...

They're not too bad. The pants are pretty comfortable, and don't feel that different from normal underwear. I was wearing them this winter, though - come summer people might feel less comfortable.

The combat codpiece is pretty good - really does the job, and doesn't get in the way at all. Heat loss is going to be an issue with these, though.

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Glad to hear it...

...but "combat codpiece"??? New keyboard, please!

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Joke name

The name is a joke, but it also looks quite silly. If you do a GIS for "combat codpiece", you'll see a few people wearing it (we were asked if anyone wanted to model it for Soldier Magazine ... no takers, funnily enough).

I also haven't yet heard of anyone padding it out, but I'm sure someone will.

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"terrifies the clergy"

"Combat codpiece" puts me in mind of the "Black Russian" from Blackadder.

Now that would strike fear in to the hearts of our enemies.

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doesn't get in the way....

sounds so wrong

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Well Hoo-rah we should buy it from the Yanks immediately!!

Wait the yanks are buying... from us?!... Lewis, what's going on?? I'm frightened :*(

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date wrong thats all

Should have been 1st April...

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cog ergo sum

sums leads me to believe that they are around £44.50 a pair, are they on sale at M&S yet?

Paris as she probably wouldn't need a pair

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Re: cog ergo sum

Those are the Gucci ones.

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Mr anonymously

get a life.

paris, because i am a dick.

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Speak up Brown!

The last time I had ballistic underpants was after a hot chilli and foo-foo stew.

There were also some flames.

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Hurrah!

Nice to see we are ahead (a little bit....in one area...) for once.

Especially for an area so vital. Protection that is you filthy people!

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Silk underwear?

Strewth! I need a beer.

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If I were in the British Army....

I'd be trying to find out how much of a bung Cooneen, Watts and Stone would want to ensure that the US Marines got theirs with "Hello Kitty" branding.....

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That's another new keyboard

you owe me!

Lovely thought.

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Wrong text

I believe as with all things American, product liability will take precedence.

The print will be: "Warning - May contain Nuts"

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Imposter

Will the real Lewis Page please step forward, the writer of this article is obviously an imposter.

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I believe that...

..Ancient Japanese Samurai wore silk undergarments as it was known that it made it much easier to remove arrows if you happened to get shot. The arrow head would get wrapped in the silk as you got hit and would therefore cause much less damage when pulled out. Also, because the silk was so strong compared to the other materials of the time, arrow heads tended not to go so deep.

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That wouldn't be fundoshi, I presume...

The fundoshi:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fundoshi

doesn't appear to lend much protection to the buttocks, much less the back alley.

I didn't go there, but Google has youtube vids for the fundoshi...

Do you have the Japanese ancient name of the garments?

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Navy Silk.

Surely the Mongol horde used silk prior to the jolly jack tars for the same reason.

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Trouser Envy?

Well you know thats always been part of the reason Americans buy big cars... ;)

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but does it chafe?

non-chafingness was probably a good reason to wear silk, too (reminds me of Shatta's MicroMail(TM) in Pratchett's Unseen Academicals)

glad a Northern Irish company is doing well from this, but sad that the keks were probably developed for a local need.

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Damn you!

I haven't read that one yet!!!

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I seem to remember reading...

..somewhere that the US FDA does not recognise the anti-microbial properties of silver.

Therefore products such as clothing and food storage containers couldn't be avertised with it as a benefit.

Hope they don't get caught out by that, (assuming that military clothing and consumables need FDA approval, that is).

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Be a Great Actor

(You add dialogue at the buzzer)

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BCB Blast Boxers

How do these compare to the BCB Blast Boxers?

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Congrats!

Of course, I think we'll need to develop a domestic source but until that happens you guys deserve the buy.

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Ballistic armor in a good location

I'm glad to see that they're starting to make protection for the one area that's largely been unarmored until now. Which is a shame, too -- being hit in the thigh can be just as deadly as in the chest, particularly if it strikes you in the femoral artery.

Sure, it's not true ballistic armor, but it's a step in the right direction. While I doubt anyone's going to start sticking rifle plates to their legs, why not take the current tech a step further? Kevlar or aramid underweave and stop/mitigate the two biggest threats to that area: shrapnel and ricochets?

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No reason...

...that trauma plates can't be added. Maybe not easily to the inside of the thigh, but the rest, even the hams and the outside of the hip, can easily enough be equipped. Elsewhere, will just need to double up on the thickness of the cloth.

Oooh, wait - Why not a 'combat kilt', to go with the rest..? The troops can all look like Marvin the Martian!

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A bit rough on the scots

Are the men of the "3rd Foot and Mouth Regiment", the famous devils in skirts, left totally unprotected?

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Ballistic Silk

So just to be clear, ballistic silk is literally made from silk (and silver), right? Meaning not Kevlar "silk" or genetically engineered spider-goat silk, just regular mulberry moth cocoon silk, right? So it would be correct and not all all misleading to say our soldiers will be wearing silk underwear, is that correct? I just wanted to be totally clear on this point.

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Excuse me for asking

but if a bullet hit's your unmentionables, wouldn't the impact itself cause severe damage, even if the thing won't go through ?

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Bullets yes ...

Even the combat codpiece can't do much against a direct impact from gunfire. The pants and codpiece, however, are mostly to stop IED blast/fragments from smashing up into the groin and destroying genitals or causing catastrophic bleeds inside the pelvis or at the top of the thighs (too high for a tourniquet).

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Hmmm, Fundoshi it must be...

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Undergarment

(looks more like an Alien's Hitch Hiking Guide to Human Underwear)

In the pic of the 3 mail models posing in the bluish room, they at first appeared to me to be under water....

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