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German cops are investigating whether a 20-year-old may have been doing a tad over the 50 mph speed limit when he pranged his dad's £275k, 225 mph Gumpert Apollo. The driver failed to negotiate a bend near the town of Brokdorf, 50 miles north of Hamburg. He and his 19-year-old female passenger walked away from the crash with …

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Good job too!

...One less of those eyesores on the roads.

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Actually

One of those is on my lottery win list of purchases.

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in fairness...

its looks more stylish after the crash... what a fugly car, but then again i suppose a mid life crisis car should be like that...

Fail, because buying one of those was a fail.

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Finally Some Good News for Sony

This story makes a pretty good argument for restricting idiot offspring to a Playstation & Gran Turismo.

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He didn't prang it that completely

at only 50 mph. 150 might be more like it.

Still, it's a testament to the quality of the engineering that the passenger compartment wasn't as mangled as the engine compartment, but I'll bet that once dad found out, our young fellow *wishes* he'd pranged it hard enough to kill himself.

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but

The drivers door did flew off meaning protection in that area was nil

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150mph is Faaasssstt!

The difference between 30mph and 60mph may not seem much, but going from 60mph to 120mph is a huge difference, and at 150mph everything is happening really, really fast. Fast enough that it's scary (on a motorbike, anyway).

If he crashed at 150 on a public road it's almost inconceivable that the car wouldn't have rolled and been a lot more messed up than it is.

The grumpy old man in me says "throw the book at him". The younger man says "bad luck".

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Oh, I doubt that

Tell you a secret from my own high school days about the kids whose parents are rich enough to let them drive around in cars too expensive for anyone in town ever to have heard of before?

There's never -- and I mean not *ever* -- just one car like that in the garage. Two is trying far too hard; three is still a bit parvenu; six or seven, plus an antique motorcycle or two, is just about right.

I'll just about guarantee you that a) the car was part of a collection, and b) the car was insured up to the eyelashes, especially if he was letting his 20-year-old drive around in it. In fact I'll even wager a fiver on c) it was the car the guy liked least, which is why he lent it to the *offspring* he liked least, in hope of seeing both problems solve themselves.

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Re: 150mph is Faaasssstt!

You're not wrong... I've accidentally (and honestly, it was accidentally) wound my bike up to those regions on a UK motorway. It was very early morning, the road was empty, and I was happily cruising along eating up the miles, I had originally settled at somewhere between 80 and 90mph.

The miles, time and scenery go by, and suddenly up in the distance I see a dot... Oh look, some actual traffic... Next thing I know I've shot past it!

Having the scenery blur as you pass it at 80mph is very much the same as how it blurs at 150mph... The blur from passing a car which you think is traveling roughly the same speed as you, and not 80mph *slower* is somewhat different!

I had to take the next exit and have a breather!

Anon for obvious, license preserving reasons!

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Spaceframe construction. The doors (and pretty much all the bodywork panelling) are decorative when it come to crash protection. Usually designed to come away in one piece too, rather than breaking up and chucking bent bits into the passenger cell.

It's infinitely better in a crash than a stressed monocoque with extra bits (like bars in the doors). Put it this way, if yer really "safe" production car gets five Euro-NCAP stars this thing would get about eight or so[1]. Of course, to measure that we'd need a scale that actually covered what *can* be done in terms of crash safety and the mass production car industry lobbyists would never allow that to happen.

[1] Or should. I suspect that in the wacky world of the safety nazis it would get marked down for not having enough airbags or something equally as irrelevant in a properly built vehicle.

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Wrong

@Captain Scarlet the drivers door offers no real protection. It's the structure of the cabin that offers the protection. Noticed that big sill and low roof line? Clearly not.

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Good job

"The difference between 30mph and 60mph may not seem much, but going from 60mph to 120mph is a huge difference"

That's right. The difference between 30 and 60 is 30 and the difference between 60 and 120 is twice that.

Well done.

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Assumption

You are assuming, of course, that the father knew about his son using the car, it's not unheard of for delinquent offspring - especially those who want to show off to 19 year old bints - to just take things.

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Good Job, Too!

Anonymous Coward 9.01 - "That's right. The difference between 30 and 60 is 30 and the difference between 60 and 120 is twice that.

Well done."

Thanks for pointing that out, anonymous coward, your anal-retentive personality has enlightened us all!

My point is that a doubling of speed does not equal a doubling of how scary it feels. But you knew that already, right?

Hugs and love...

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think that was bad ..

I was doing a track day at Silverstone. Was doing ~120 mph and accelerating down Hanger Straight when pheasant decided to walk out on the track in front me me, far enough away that if we both carried on our present courses I was going to hit him, deadly to him, expensive to me. Just swerving to avoid could have resulted in a serious roll (and breaking would have me moving under less control in the same direction).

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Two good points...

- the passenger safety cell did a good job there, very impressive

- the lad's managed to improve the looks of the car; the Apollo has all the style of a train-wreck when factory-fresh

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Investigating?

"German cops are investigating whether a 20-year-old may have been doing a tad over the 50 mph speed limit when he pranged his dad's £275k"

Investigating what exactly.. The car is a total wreck, I would be investigating whether he was doing over 150mph

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Evidence

I'm sure the rozzers are well aware that he was exceeding the speed limit, but in order to prosecute they need a little thing called evidence. A prosecution won't stick unless they can get evidence of how fast he was going.

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title

I can see why the rozzers aren't sure if he was exceeding the limit. It looks like a low speed prang to me.

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To be fair..

..you don't have to prang a car hard to fuck it up completely. They are designed to fall apart around you these days, so you don't become one with the metal framework. 50mph into a sufficiently solid barrier will really ruin your day, and you'll be thankful for crumple zones when you wake up in hospital.

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Agreed

Witness the Audi TT that slid into the back of my 20 year old Landrover's Towhitch. I was stationary at a junction, he hit sheet ice, but probably wasn't doing more than 5-10mph when he tapped me.

Once I could actually see the back bumper, after I'd brushed off all the busted German Plastic, He'd cost me 10 minutes of my day.

He'd lost the bumper, headlight, and kinked his bonnet, so I suspect the cost was much more for him.

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heehee

Yes, I have fond memories of a teen in a rice rocket pranging into my old Series III in wet conditions. Towball went right through his nose and punched clean through the radiator, then the bounce knocked it clear again. I think in total I lost about half a sq inch of paint on the bumper, but on the bright side he cleaned the rust off my towball. His car was ... not so lucky.

Poor guy was all like 'don't you want my insurance details' and was stunned when I simply asked 'why? you didn't hurt anything'.

Passive safety on those things was great, although I definitely wouldn't want to hit something solid at speed.

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!!!!!!BAN THEM!!!!!!

Someone think of the children!

Mine's the one with the rolled-up Daily Mail in the pocket.

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iIs it any wonder...

Kids are quoted so much for car insurance.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-13055623

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What a moron

I mean the father, for not being able to guess what would happen if he let a teenager drive such a car.

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Err you are assuming he knew

Perhaps boy was trying to impress girl and "borrowed" the car without Dad's say so.

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You're assuming...

... that the father even knew he was driving it.

Mine's the one with a copy of Ferris Bueller's Day Out in the pocket.

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I'd be surprised if...

...the father knew anything about this before the cops arrived on the front doorstep.

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Thirteen...

...Fourteen, Fifteen, Sixteen, Seventeen, Eighteen, Nineteen, Twenty.

Which one of these does not belong?

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Smite thee oh space of demandng title text!!

I had to laugh reading this one :) What a great film although winding back the odometer is just one of the many jobs the kid will need to do on the car :)

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Top Gear

4 - 1 on an honourable mention on the next Top Gear...

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aaah

Appropriately enough, Schadenfreude is a German word.

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Well

They say that "Schadenfreude ist die beste freude" in certain German speaking parts of the world.

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Now that's why you wear a seatbelt!

Still need some new underwear though!

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Which streak do you think is the biggest?

The tyre rubber on the road or the brown streak up the seat backs?

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Re: Now that's why you wear a seatbelt!

Certainly will need some new underwear. Army-issue armoured stuff, for when his dad kicks his arse big style.

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Yeah man...

...the skid marks in his and his gf's underwear must have been enormous.

Mine's the one with a matching pair of his & her's underwear in the pocket

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Re: Re: Now that's why you wear a seatbelt!

"Certainly will need some new underwear. Army-issue armoured stuff, for when his dad kicks his arse big style."

Too bad he is unlikely to play cricket, he could then put his box to good use

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I'm sure the young lady was impressed

Right up until the point where she had to phone her parents for a ride home.

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Grounded...

The lad won't be allowed out of his room 'til he's 40.

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Grounded...

I'd say it's more likely that Dear Old Dad will boot him out of the house the day the law says he is an adult... while Mumsey will make sure he's not out in the cold ...

Fail, because the kid is being set up to fail in life, no matter how much money he's got. He's too stupid to plan for the future.

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broke?

or made it better?

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I wonder if she was still impressed

after the crash...

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Yes but...

Yes, that's all very nice but was the girl impressed?

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Good News/ Bad News

Good -- Dad, you won't have to worry about that expensive maintenance and the insurance renewal.

Bad -- Did I tell you about the good news?

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Insurance?

I'd be really interested to know just how much is the insurance on a £275K car for a 20-y-o.

Over €1M, perhaps?

He WAS insured. Wasn't he? Or was his father fronting...?

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Bah!

Does it come in anything other than orange?

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Did the door actually fly 100 feet?

Need to know if the door actually flew 100' down the road in which case a high speed crash would perhaps be likely, or did it actually fall off, someone nicked it and then dropped it after realising it's gonna look pretty stupid on their banged up Ford Fiesta?

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After the crash the driver's door ended up 100ft (30m) away...

...I bet the lad and his bollocks were separated by a similar distance when his dad found out!

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Famous last words...

...of any boy racer:

"Here, watch this!"

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