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Apple fans may have to wait till next year before they can junk their iPhone 4s in favour of iPhone the Fifth. Analyst firm Avian Securities said that production of the iPhone 5 won't begin till September, meaning a holiday launch at the earliest, or even a New Year's debut. The note, reported in Business Insider, is based on …

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Ordinary People Might get to own a fondle slab?

Your kidding right, most people own an iPhone in some shape or form. Most of us are normal people, what are you on? Only the super rich are allowed Apple products?

Hmmmmmm

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8 billion people

At 8 billion people in the world, I don't think "most of us" have an iOS Device.

If however you mean the population of El Reg, you may also be incorrect. Reading the forthcoming responses on the comments section to this article prove that.

Anyway, this was a bit of smugness from the writer here. Let's leave that to the Apple users.

/runs for the *Troll Defence League* (/b/)/

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Poll Required

There's only one way to find out - at least for el Reg readers. A new poll! Things like iPhone, Android, Blackberry, Other. or iPad and, er, Other

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Stupid article

I think El Reg went a bit overboard on this one, you can almost cut the self-righteousness with a knife.

" it would mean that "ordinary people" can get their hands on a fondleslab."

You make it sound like the iPhone is something like a Vertu.

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Indeed

Fanboys / haters are par for the course in the comments, they being the lower echelons of the web population. But keep it out of the articles ffs!

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Hello and welcome

You must be new to The Register. Pull up a chair.

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I for one am pleased at this news

It means my phone will be the latest model for that little bit longer...

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Mine too

Got my iPhone 4 last year, with a 24 month contract and was considering flogging it to Mazuma / Envirophone / etc. to get the latest slidy aluminiumness! Then I realised that I really was an Apple whote and thought it best to wait until next year!

Crossing fingers for a big screen though. Buddy of mine has a HTC somethingorother with a bigger screen that the iPhone and it looks awesome!

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The iPhone is too big!

I hate big screens. My iPhone is too big as it is. I hope they shrink it!

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Why do I need a title to reply to a post?

Jesus wept? Do you do anything else in your life?

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Ordinary people already have smartphones

Just not one with an expensive Apple logo. Since over 5 years ago, phones doing Internet, mp3s, 3G and apps (and video recording/calling/playback, btw) became cheap and bog standard. It's the Iphone that had to do catchup on many of these basic features.

It is true that some Iphone users wave it around as a status symbol, it's like the Adidas of phones; personally I prefer clothes (and phones) without a big logo on them.

I was once in the pub, and two strangers interrupted a conversation on phones I was having, to say in a snooty voice "Oh, we've got Iphones. Look at how shiny and sexy it is. We don't care about open source operating systems". I mean, what the hell?

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They have to brag....

....so it gives meaning to the premium price they paid for the closed architecture.

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The title is too long.

"Oh, we've got Iphones. Look at how shiny and sexy it is. We don't care about open source operating systems"

That strange, if they don't care about open source, you should ask them why not use Windows Mobile...after all any iCraps device is running version of Free BSD?

No?

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I don't....

..... have a smartphone, and don't particularily want one.

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conversation on phones

"I was once in the pub, and two strangers interrupted a conversation on phones I was having, to say in a snooty voice "Oh, we've got Iphones. Look at how shiny and sexy it is"

This barely makes sense - "two strangers interrupted a conversation on phones I was having" - you mean you were having a phone conversation on more than one phone and two strangers tapped you on the shoulder to interrupt you and then say 'Oh, we've got Iphones. Look at how shiny and sexy it is'?

I don't believe any of this.

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No.....

Read it again. The guy was saying he was having a conversation about phones (I take it with someone) and he got interrupted by 2 strangers bragging about their shit phones. Makes perfect sense.

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title

"It is true that some Iphone users wave it around as a status symbol,"

What do you mean by this 'some'?

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8 billion?

6.8 billion roughly.

I was expecting an Iphone 4 G(S) follow-on type product with most of the hardware design flaws of the Iphone 4 engineered out. I'm not having an Iphone 4, but I'll take a close look at any updated versions (assuming that they tuck the Hi-Z ends of the monopole antennas inside the case this time).

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Maybe the fucktards now have time to fix the iPhone OS for all models

OS 4 onwards is PITA for iPhone 3G and they stopped on the shittiest os revision. My phone still has apple care for 2 month! I want my fixes!

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It's not the phone that's expensive.

To tell the truth, I'd have to say the reason why the "normal people" don't have iPhones isn't because of the cost of the iPhone itself. On a plan, it's $199... or $49 around here if you want a 3GS. (That's the "Cheap" phone already, last year's model. No need for another one. ) The big price is the on going service charge of internet and text messages. On AT&T it means, take your normal plan and add $30+ a month to it. (For the cheap setup, the one I've got is $30 (unlimited net) +$20 (unlimited text), luckily my company reimburses me for it). $30 * 24 months (2 year contract) is $720! and the one I've got is $1200!

Thing is, this is basically the standard AT&T pricing. Verizon's isn't much different. Doesn't matter what smart phone you get, you're going to be dropping a lot of money either way, and not for the phone.

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We aren't all Americans

speak for yourself American - you guys have always had high prices. For the rest of the world the iPhone is fucking expensive.

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the phone isn't expensive, the service contracts are....

"speak for yourself American - you guys have always had high prices. For the rest of the world the iPhone is fucking expensive."

I was going to get an MP3 player,

My phone was a Samsung D900, the contract on O2 was up so I looked at an iPhone 3G. For the same price as the MP3 player, £100, I bought an iPhone. The ongoing contract subscription was the same price, £35.

I sold the iPhone 3G for the same as I paid up front to acquire it.

I bought the iPhone 4 with the cash I got back.

Expensive.... nope....

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fools and their money

If you don't think the requirement for a £35 per month contract is expensive then you need your head checked!

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fools and money?

I use the minutes to within 10% each month. If I didn't I would agree with you that fools are easily separated from their hard earned.

£35 / month is cheaper than £30 / month and using more than the minutes allowance.

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Second part

Read the title of my first post!!!!!!!!!!

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See?

See how the fans want to thumb my comment down?

Any old phone can do Internet access/apps these days, I'm not sure why that was a controversial comment. The "You need an expensive smartphone to do that" is one of the new tech myths around.

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Maybe because they're right?

I've used almost all the "Internet phones" since the Motorola Timeport 260, the first GPRS phone, and I can safely say either the web was rubbish or they were massive bricks. That goes for for all of them until the iPhone came out in 2007 with a proper browser in a nice form factor.

That's were you got your original comment wrong.

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Thumbs down Why?

Because

"I was once in the pub, and two strangers interrupted a conversation on phones I was having, to say in a snooty voice "Oh, we've got Iphones. Look at how shiny and sexy it is. We don't care about open source operating systems". I mean, what the hell?"

sounds made up to me. Or your going to some really bad bars.

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Like @AC said

that too

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And another one...

for whining about it!

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AC @ 14:22 GMT

You should leave your basement and go out...you will see that there are real strange people.

WOW is not the only place that has dumb people.

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Of course ordinary people have iPhones

They sell them in Tescos FFS, that's hardly Waitrose is it?

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yawn

isn't this the 3rd or 4th year that there have been rumours of a low-priced iPhone?

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I don't care WHAT you write about...

... just keep up the same old snarky tone and reader-baiting attitude and I will keep reading. Work is dull and I need a good laff at lunchtime :-)

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eh

There was me thinking fondleslabs were tablets.

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September or October, maybe. 2012, nah.

Apple has released new iPods every September or October since 2003. Given that this is a good time of year for a major product announcement, and given also that the iPod as a product category is in seemingly terminal decline, it makes perfect sense for Apple to move one of its other product announcements to later in the year. So a September or October iPhone 5 makes perfect sense. I doubt it will be that major a redesign, but it can't be hard to give the iPhone a faster CPU and GPU, nicer cameras, and a bit of a cosmetic redesign. Give it much more than a year between revisions, though, and people will stop buying it, so I really can't see a delay until next year.

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I agree

Surely they need to announce a phone with the A5 processor this year.

The rumour mill is just completely off the axis this year, remember how they said the iPad was also delayed..

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Ordinary people?

What are you on about, the iPhone is more commonplace than many other ones now. My mother, my father in law and most of their friends have iPhones and they don't come much more ordinary than those folk!

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Vote up this post if you think the iphone is pants!

Might be the first time one of my comments has a thumbs up.

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Nah

Trying too hard, Dave, trying too hard....

GJC

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Am I the only one...

Who read the 'Ordinary people" comment as sarcasm?

I think you've all been trolled, hard.

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"your" .NE. "you're"

Internetglish in two comments. Sigh...

;-)

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Commonplace?

iPhones are pretty common and definitely in the hands of the great unwashed masses - a bit like BMWs.

One time I was a passenger on a trip down the M40, I counted all the BMWs and worked out that on the motorway you see, on average, one BMW every 10 seconds.

Which seems about the same as iPhone incidence. They really can hardly be described as a status symbol when the student sitting next to you has one and so does the ticket inspector.

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"most people own an iPhone in some shape or form"

No we don't. They are a luxury item like all smart-phones, the same as a games console.

I find it fascinating that it's now considered de rigueur to splash out £400 on a mobile telephone, and that people seem to think they're entitled to this.

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Stepping above my station

You`ll only pay over the odds if you dont shop around.

Spend £400 on a phone on day of release.....wait for a good deal like most people do, and thats why there are so many people using them.

People are entitled to buy whatever they choose, regardless of status.

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Couldn't agree more

I hate mobile phones of all sorts. They seem to have taken the place of real life for most people. Try walking around London without walking into some twat completely engrossed in the garbage on his bloody phone. Really and truly, there are other ways to pass your time.

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If those dates turn out to be somewhere near real it will be interesting.

The implication is that the iPhone 5 will be launched about the same time as the first Nokiasoft phones. I can already see the postings we are likely to get. This is going to be fun, the blogosphere here at ElReg is likely to get fairly "fraught".

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No way

Microsoft will have a Nokiasoft phone on sale to the public before well on to next year. I'll even eat my hat if they do (and if so watching ensuing marketplace disaster would be worth swallowing it down)

I think MS's strategy for Nokia is to get them onboard for WP8. WP7 seems more and and more to have just been launched to patch this massive gap in their product range while they work on the real thing.

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@+++ath0 Re No way

I said absolutely *nothing* explicit or implicit about the likely merits or demerits of *either* the iPhone 5 *or* the first of the Nokiasoft phones. My posting in that respect was *wholly neutral*. I posted saying that *IF* these possible dates were anywhere near real then the atmosphere here on the threads at El Reg would be somewhat predictable. Lo and behold, you reply to my posting insisting that in the unlikely event that any Nokiasoft phones are launched in that period they will be a disaster and we see many other postings of the same general type (both pro and anti apple, and of the usual "high intellectual" standard). It is downright amusing to see my little prediction confirmed in spades so quickly. I should get into the analyst business, judging by this I could scarcely do any worse than the likes of Gartner et al.

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LOL

These articles about iPhone/iPad delays are just FUD press releases put out by rivals trying to get people to "stop waiting" and buy their alternative product now.

The next iOS will be announced early June at the WWDC event and I see no reason why the next iPhone won't be announced as well.

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