Fans of the Lord of the Rings saga will be eager to know the Blu-ray version of the Extended Edition of the trilogy will be released in the UK on 28 June. Warner Home Entertainment announced the 15-disc box-set, which will include the special features from previous releases - six discs from the Extended Edition DVDs and three …
Will we be able to trade in our Extended DVD Editions
For money off the Blu-Ray Editions? NO isn't it just all the same stuff repacked or is there unseen stuff here? No
You mean you will charge me again just for the privilege of watching it on my BluRay.
I smell a rip off coming
They're charging you for the privilege of watching the movie in HD at a higher bitrate, with lossless surround sound. Just as many other movies receive when they are packaged / remastered / restored for HD presentation. You may of course pass if you wish.
Don't you mean "when they are packaged / remastered / rewhored"?
Movies have been repackaged for years. VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu Ray. Not just once per format but sometimes many, many times, e.g. Star Wars. A crap film is still a crap film whether you're seeing it on some worn VHS cassette or on a Blu Ray. And if you already own a DVD of some movie it may be more than adequate for your purposes instead of splashing out again, esp. for gratuitous money grabs.
That said there are some remarkable HD versions of old movies. I have The Godfather Trilogy on BD and the improvement after a full restoration is dramatic. Even TV can benefit - the source might usually be SD but AVC / VC-1 encoding plus higher bitrate would mean a truer reproduction. Some TV shows are even shot in 16mm / 35mm and can benefit enormously - The Prisoner looks mindbogglingly good on BD.
I have no idea if LOTR EE is going to be a good HD release. The way the extras are still on DVD strikes me as an incredibly lazy, i.e. they are reusing DVD masters instead of reencoding the featurettes from VT masters onto a BD . I expect some of the extended edition scenes and CG could also look pretty ropey in HD.
but there IS a discount
For MANY of the current releases, if I own the DVD I can send it in for a discount on the BR version. Usually $5, sometimes more, depending on the version.
How many discs?
One thing is for sure, the true dedicated fan will achieve something they never thought possible. Watching this lot in one session will transform them into a character from the films.
Shame it'll be Gollum, as they stumble blinking into the sunlight after such a session.
One set to rule them all
15-disc box-set? Shurely there should be 20:
Three Films on Blu-ray under the sky
Seven for the special features on the DVD
Nine for the Director's Cut (don't ask why)
One for the index of what's on the other nineteen
In the Limited Extended Edition where the Shadows lie.
One Set contains them all, In one Set you'll queue them,
One Set you'll bring them all and in the darkness view them
In the Limited Extended Edition where the Shadows lie.
That was a phenomenally geeky effort, sir. Bravo!
Hats off, sir.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
"Nine for the Director's Cut (don't ask why)" made me quite literally laugh out loud.
Thank you :-)
Thank you.. I am phenominally geeky when it comes to things like LOTR and parodies. Just realized how wonderfully appropriate the "philbo" handle is at this point (times when "philbo" has gone, I generally register as "philbo baggins", which would've been even better)
The orginal DVDs still look great. I'll be waiting for the hobbit boxset.
Anamorphic PAL DVDs still look fantastic.
Although I have had a Blu-Rey player for over a year now, I have yet to buy a single Blu-Ray disc. The rip-off price is simply not justified over DVD. I remember when Avatar came out on disc - you could get the DVD version for about 7 quid at ASDA. The Blu-Ray version (still at ASDA)? Oh, that'll be about 20-odd quid thank you very much.
Re: Why bother.
I saw them at the cinema. They were great films but a bit bleedin long. I'm fooked if I'm giving up another 9 hours of my life to watch them again, whatever the format.
closer to 11 hours...
The extended editions added more than 2 hours of integrated footage, not just a few tiny deleted scenes. they actually went back and re-shot additional content for the first 2 films while working on the latter. the extended directors cuts actually change the plot and story (enhance it anyway), quite dramatically, and bring forward fan favorites characters and scenes not seen in theaters at all.
Also, though i rarely enjoy commentary tracks, as they're typically limited to anecdotes and BS, the 3-4 DIFFERENT tracks for each movie were actually quite revealing, and they talked in depth about the books, the story, and deep details of the production process. They were (mostly) worth watching. That's some 35+ hours of commentary. Though someone who simply enjoyed the movie just being a movie might not see that, anyone who is a fan of tolkein, or of the origins of fantasy writing in general, got a LOT out of it. I was surprised that even my wife enjoyed it immensely.
You know you can convert an MKV file to Bluray-Movie format (m2ts) WITHOUT the need to re-encode, with a program TSMuxer, right? http://tinyurl.com/6kfmfd
And you don't even need a BD-R. All you need is a DVDR DL.
And if it doesn't fit to 7.95GB, you can always split it in half without quality loss with a program called avidemux.
Just make sure the resolution is 1920x1080 OR 1280x720. Then it's all a walk in the park.
This thing should be taught to schools...
But that's against the terms of the license and we all know breaking the terms of the license kills babies.
Be careful as it looks like you are 'releasing a method of by passing copy protection' which is against the digital 'don't kill digital babies law' and could find yourself in deep water!
I'll just stick with my DVD copies for now. Until the Hobbit comes out in the new BluRay/DVD/Super Duper format which is gonna cost even more than bluray. and promised 100 times more clarity that yer own eyeballs can perceive.
films spread over 6 discs?
wtf? surely with 50gb blus the films should be on 1 disc each? the wost thing about the dvd vsersion is swapping the discs. i really hoped with the blu ray versions this wouldnt be the case.
still buying them tho. got the theatrical versions for a tenner on blu, and they are stonking.
Not on a single disk
The reason that the original "collectors" DVDs had each film on 2 disks, was to allow less compression to give a better quality film.
Now they could've done that with the Blu-ray version, but then people would complain that it was just the same quality as before. Probably instead, they are doing the same thing again; Using HD resolution and sound, but less compression than would be needed to fit it onto a single disk.
If you are really upset about it; buy the set, buy a copy of Slysoft HD and put everything together on a HD player like the Playon HD, and watch it from start to finish without getting out of your chair.
not just the film
besides the fact they would have had to increase the compression a bit to get the near 4 hour extended version on a single 50GB disk, there are also 3 or 4 directors commentary tracks for each movie, which can not be separated to other disks.
The DVD was 2 disks each because even a dual layer DVD 18 could not hold the super-bit version of the movie, meaning an 18GB disk was not enough, and HD is 4x the data for video and more than double for audio (near 4x for lossless there too). 50GB simply isn't enough. If it was HD DVD you would need 3 disks for each film, be glad it didn't win...
Bluray & DVD
"the bonus features will be on DVDs, while only the films themselves are offered on Blu-ray - no surprise, since the extras will all be standard definition anyway."
Well they *could* have put all the SD bonus features on a single Bluray disc, but of course then it would have an impressive N where N = num(discs).
Apparently this is listed as $120
So that will translate to an RRP of £90 here with VAT added! Ouch!
That's quite an ask, expecially for those who spent around that anyway in buying the three extended editions on DVD with the figurines! Especially when the non-extended-edition blu's can be picked up for ~£15 for the set!
Jolly Roger, as that kind of price pretty much encourages people to downloaded the inevitable mkv rips that will appear!
So that'll be £120, then.
Re: Apparently this is listed as $120
Not too bad! There is a BluRay player in the box, right?
The RRP of the extended DVDs when they came out was £30 a set (without extras) so this is right in line with those.
You may have got a deal where you got figurines included but that was your retailers choice to go below RRP and maybe they will do the same again this time.
A lot of supermarkets cut below RRP now so I wouldn't be surprised to see it for £60-£70 anyway.
The thing is....
For people who already have the box sets, £60 is still *way* too much money to buy the films again. Especially given that the original bluray's had transfer issues, a lot of people are going to be very wary of splashing out on these.
Something can only a rip off if you buy it. Don't want, don't buy, no rip off. Solved your issue. No thanks required.
Same rule can be applied to iPhones, iPads, Ferrraris, Paris Hilton and any other expensive item. If you don't buy it then it doesn't matter what the price is and whining about it being a "rip off" is null and void.
No thanks required.
Go on please tell me.
You think this is good value for money. A must for any true LOTR Fan. A worthy release?
I think that is stretching higher bitrates a little too far.
Been there got the T-Shirt, Read the Book, Listened to The Audio Book, Seen it at the Cinema (Twice) Bought the Extended DVD's once for me once for somebody else that needed to educated. And even some figurines for the mantel
But I guess I STILL isn't giving enough money to the meeja industry.
Repack it all up again and resell it and see if we can get some more money for old rope!
Or could this be to do with the fall out Peter Jackson had with the Movie Studio about who gets the biggest cut of the DVD Revenues.
Well Peter we promised you the biggest cut on the DVD's but these aren't DVD's these are BluRay and require a different licensing. You don't get a cut of this pie!
Something can only a rip off if you buy it.
Yes but 10 out of 10 for trying to rip their fans off.
Sounds like the only thing different about the Blu Ray versions is the movie disc. The extras will be the same ones that were in the DVD boxed sets. It seems a bit lazy and sloppy really - they could have crammed the DVD features onto a single Blu Ray disc and cut the disc count in half.
I usually don't care too much about packaging
but that huge blue block at the top of the front cover looks truely awful.
Lets just hope
That George Lucas hasn't read this.
I'd pay some top money for a Blu-ray edition of the original trilogy PROVIDED nothing had been altered in anyway shape or form whatsoever. That means all the original scenes, right down to the damn fool Ewok song, no "remastering" where you shoe-horn in pointless scenes. Just the original stuff.
Get that right and I might even allow you to put on a directors commentry.
...just wait a few months, then when the limited number of 'gotta get it' fans peter out the rest of us will be able to get it for half price (or even less on ebay).
I've already bought these films. Theres no way I'm going to pay again for the same films.
I guess if i wait a week i'll be able to get a digital copy better than the ones they provide off PirateBay.
Erm, no thanks.
Bought the original trilogy, appalling quality, took them straight back. No mention if they've fixed that this time round and films spread across 2 Blu-Rays, get real!
From what blu-ray.com can tell us, "The Fellowship of the Ring" has been remastered from original 2k sources.
If this is true, then there is hope for a good treatment of the others. Whether one want to put down money for higher resolution ... your choice.
Is it just me?
Or does "Limited Extended Edition" sound ridiculous? I get annoyed by any "limited editions" anyway, as a production run of 15,000,000,000 is also limited, albeit to 2.5 per person on Earth (give or take 0.1).
Will they have an "Extended Extended Edition" later (and get into trademark trouble with Asus (Eee-PC))?
Will this EEE be on the future Ultra-Violet-Ray disc? Will an EVEN MORE EXTENDED EXTENDED EDITION be available on the even more future Xray-Disc format (sounds better dunnit?)?
Mines the one with the battered 3 volume LotR BOOK in the pocket.
because by the time they get around to the EVEN MORE EXTENDED EXTENDED EDITION it'll be about time to reboot the franchise (aka Yet Another Remake(tm))
Only the next time it'll be in full-sensory immersive jack-cyberspace in all 5 senses, so not only will you see the wonderful scenery in all directions in teravoxel resolutions, and hear the crashing soundtrack faithful to a gigahertz, you'll also be able to taste the sweetness of the lembas and smell the odouriferous foulness of Gollum's farts...
You cant beat the old analogue quality
I think I will wait for the 600 vhs tapes edition myself.
Wait, wait, wait...
Before you throw away your DVD set and buy the Blu-ray set, bear in mind that there'll almost certainly be a 3D Blu-ray set before too long, not to mention an ULTIMATE version including the Hobbit...
I love it
Pay more to see the scenes that weren't good enough to make the orignal release.
I wonder if the discs are really Blu-ray.. Which magazine checked 17 different Blu-ray movies a few months ago and found that 12 of them weren't Blu-ray at all but normal DVD's with the white light enhanced.
When Which asked a Blu-ray industry body some very technical questions about these non-blu-ray Blu-ray disks they got no answers except the statement about how happy the customers are with the disks anyway...
link to the Which report, please!
That Which report
Did you read the article, or did you just summarise from someone else's comment on a web forum that someone had posted after reading a blog about his mate in the pub saying that ....
I just googled and the Which article I found where they tested 17 discs in December 2010 didn't say anything about the physical discs being DVDs as opposed to Blu's (as your comment implies).
They found that with some of the 17 discs tested, the picture quality wasn't significantly better than the DVD version of the film, when played on the same player & TV in a side-by-side comparison. BTW this was "man on the street" comparisons, not geek / expert analysis on DNR and grain etc AFAICT.
The reasons suggested were that some of the DVD transfers were pretty stunning in the first instance, and thus the Blu's didn't offer anything extra. Some of the Blu's were noted as being significantly better than the DVD equivalent.
And some of the Blu's were apparently a crock of shite and not worth spending any money on. I'm guessing they were ones that didn't have a proper transfer, then!
Making an epic out of a trilogy
At this rate it will be quicker to read the novels than to endure the (seemingly) never ending movies.
Ah, but I wouldn't count on them missing out the opportunity to release the Ultimate Dead Tree edition with special bonus text in 12 extra books!
How many endings will this one have?
At least two more, to justify the price.
All well and good....
....but this is going to kill my ratio