The smartbook is the great 'might have been' of mobile computing. Something thin and light, with solid-state storage, a keyboard, a day-long battery life and the ARM CPU that makes such a quality possible, and a price in keeping with the Small, Cheap Computer ethic. Killed by the iPad? Killed the absence of the right chips and …
couldn't you clean it before taking the photo?
Sounds interesting though.
That is evidence
Well, the fingerprints show that it is not an oleophobic coating (one of the reasons for the price).
In any case, if this is hackable to run Debian it will definitely make my shopping list.
That would be the xhamster effect.
Ooh, that was close. Glad I googled before I browsed...
Seriously, we should come up with some kind of warning when referencing stuff that isn't suitable to have flash up on a screen at work. Maybe an ETLA that could flag something as unsafe in a professional environment?
Two things I wonder...
Looks interesting to me.
- What is the battery life like?
- Is it possible to run Windows XP or 7 on a Tegra chipset? Or indeed some kind of linux?
Tegra is ARM
Only way you're going to see Windows on one of these devices is through an emulator. Maybe in a couple of years when MS port Windows to ARM it's possible you'll see similar devices for that OS though there are so many unknowns of how it might work that it's not worth holding your breath.
"Or indeed some kind of linux?"
You mean like Android? :-p
There's always WinCE...
I'm sold on this baby tho. Need an Android tab for experimenting and this looks like the ticket.
well that's the aim of ARM builds of ubuntu, and all that work they've been doing for tablet friendly desktop.
I presume it has a capacitive touch screen?
I look forward to this, and like you would buy one in an instant at that price. Lets hope that's real.
"And, let's not forget, the slider has a larger screen, a 10.1in, 1280 x 800 IPS LCD capacitive panel, to be exact."
Reading the article so that you don't have to (TM).
"less than £300 including VAT"
How on earth did you come up with that figure? A retail price of 400USD is never going to equate to anything less than 400GBP.
Under £400 is actually very likely - do the math
Price of about £350 looks more likely
iPad = $499 in USA, £429 in UK. Using same conversion $400 is £344
"Now, if that's right we are looking at less than £300 including VAT for the 16GB Wi-Fi only model."
Uh-uh. All manufacturers do when releasing products here is exchange the $ sign for the £ sign. It's far more likely to be £400 than £300.
You're right, however...
A keyboard/pad isn't the only thing that puts me off the tablet idea. Its size seems to welcome frequent mobile use, as such I would want to actually use it mobilly. Will the battery be able to put up with full screen brightness while playing multiple Deep Space Nine episodes?
Also, how long does it take for fatigue to set in if I were to type some papers on it?
And on that note, is there any productivity software for Android?
I prefer the concept adopted by motorola. I just wish someone would create a standard way for doing it, so we could by a standard dock and connect any Android phone to it. That would also make our dock survive the phone upgrade process...
Softmaker Office for Android
Softmaker are building a version of their Office clone for Android. Other platform versions are quite serviceable so this one should fit nicely.
Pad not needed
It's got a USB port. Buy a mouse to connect at your desk when you're doing serious typing. Maybe a better keyboard and USB hub as well. The rest of the time, touch the screen.
I'm assuming Android supports a mouse and extra keyboard. Anyway, if I buy one, It'll be to run a Linux more like Ubuntu or Fedora. This is the design I've wanted for ages.
If I didn't use One Note so much I would be very tempted to pick one of these up when my netbook dies. Still, it's a big step in the right direction.
Was anyone else remined of the old Psion Netbook?
Android version locking?
It's vaguely implied in the review that this product will allow pain-free upgrading to newer versions of Android, as opposed to the typical horror of Andoid-phone-style version locking.
Can you confirm that, one way or the other?
I can hardly remember
any time that Asus has locked something to be un-upgradable.
Motorola does those tricks, not Asus.
@ Ben Hamo
Yeah, I don't figure it will be locked. The issue will be availability of drivers. Remember the 701? Hopefully Asus will have realised that there will be some who will want to boot their own arbitrary linux and will make this process easy.
...but I've yet to see an opening mechanism as pleasing as the Psion Revo!
the Psion series 5 :)
I think your conversion rate is off.
If $400=£340 then I think this thing will cost around £380, perhaps they'll price it at £389 or £395. An easier way to price up electronics for the UK is to assume that $1=£1 then take off a small ammolunt from the total so it's not quite as obvious.
If the price is right
One has to wonder how most of the other tablets on the market - you know, the ones without the keyboard but otherwise the same- manage to be considerably more expensive.
And with that nice rubbery keyboard, you could put a Sinclair Spectrum emulator on it and really feel the nostalgia.
It's a Psion7/Netbook with an uptodate OS and I am absolutely getting one. Certainly does NOT need a track pad, which would spoil it. After some use, you'll find the combination of touchscreen and keyboard is the PERFECT configuration.
Re: looks v nice
From the article - 'Other goodies include a USB port, mini HDMI, and 1.2Mp front-facing and 5MP rear-facing cameras.'
If my Tosh AC100 is anything to go by (same Tegra 2 chipset), at least 6 hours of continuous use.
People are having difficulty reading today
"Other goodies include a USB port, mini HDMI, and 1.2Mp front-facing and 5MP rear-facing cameras."
It's a gigantic...
What Psion Would be Making - it's a 2011 Psion 5!
It's the sort of thing that Psion would be making if:
a) they hadn't pissed about with Motorola then got stung
b) they hadn't pissed about generally for so long and got left behind after showing such early brilliance and design flair
c) Psion wasn't British! (or Finish or European for that matter!)
d) if David Potter had met Steve Jobs!
More like a 2011 Series 7 or Netbook
Though I would love it if they did a version the size of a Series 5 with a keyboard as usable as the original, and a PixelQi screen.
Finally, an ARM based portable device with a keyboard.
Best of everything: Portable, decent battery life, hardware acceleration, able to create as well as consume content (unlike the Ipads, thanks to the keyboard).
It feels like it's been an age to come. Remember when everyone was getting excited about the ARM based netbooks 2+ years ago? Yeah, they never turned up.
If the price is right I'll be picking up one of these for sure.
It is piqued.
I like this. Tablets like the iPad just aren't productive enough - they're a chore for composing emails or editing code. After a couple of years with a smartphone, fondling the screen feels natural; to the point where I sometimes forget and tap links on my laptop's screen too. At that price I like even more. Not sure if Android covers all my use cases; but it should be easy enough to flash it with a Linux distro.
but I would want to put a real linux on it, and nVidia's linux support for tegra2 has been significantly worse than for their GPUs. Like the Toshiba before it, this could be a nice piece of hardware hobbled by inadequate software.
Very clever design
The thing is a bit thick because of the slider but for that you get a built in keyboard and don't have to haul around some crappy stand / keyboard attachment. Looks like a great design & very useful for folks who need to do some serious typing but benefit from the tablet the rest of the time.
Stick a grown-up operating system on there (my preference is a Linux dist or a *BSD) and I'll take one.
to do yourself, assume if you already use such OS's you will already know how to get them on the tablet.
Please use some decent resizing algorithm next time, the photos (especially the first one, not so much the others) look horrible.
it's a Psion Series7!!!!
god i loved my Series5
but that was because it would fit in my jacket pocket and was very easy to type and navigate both while holding in the hands and lying on a table.
I'm pretty sure the Series7 didn't work because it was too big to work well as a hand held unit, just not portable enough.
and i wonder if that will be the same problem with this Asus. Just too big to be a portable tablet, so why not just get a netbook instead, and have the easy of a full OS and a mouse pointer?
I was working on $400 = £250 (at today's exchange rate) plus 20% VAT = £300. I asked the Asus PR if $400 was the likely to be the local US price or the equivalent Euro / Sterling, and he said the latter. How true that will turn out to be, well, your guess is as good as mine.
Be that as it may, I was expecting to be told the price would be more in the region of 500 Euro so it still sounds like a good deal.
As for the fingerprints, sorry about that - it was a scrum at the stand and trying to get any shots was hard work. Giving one of the devices a polish and getting all Lord Lichfield on it was a non-starter.
Oh dear, I think I've turned into an actual Android Fanboi
I don't give a proverbial about the price, I just want one. Actually, two.
Mind you, if you can root it and either replace Android with the OS of your choosing (some work may be required), or dual boot boot it, the cat will have to make a new noise, as this will be its meow!
Oh, by the way...
...your "buy now from Amazon" link is broken. Possibly a temporal offset decouple. I'd try reversing the polarity of the neutron flow if I were you.
The one with the funny-looking screwdriver in the pocket, thanks.
Tablets and netbooks should be considered the same market
And this is exactly why separating "tablets" and "netbooks" into different markets makes no sense (other than to make Apple look better than they are).
It was obvious that we'd get devices like this - they run Android and have a touchscreen, but also have a physical keyboard, and can be positioned with the screen angled like a netbook.
With Windows 8, I suspect we'll also see more touchscreen netbooks (I believe some do already exist). I also *hope* we'll have some netbooks that finally give a higher resolution (more than 600 depth) - possibly with a physically taller screen, but even at the same size, a higher resolution would be good.
And just to add more to the netbook/tablet confusion, you can already get Android netbooks.
Nor is it clear why ARM versus Intel makes a difference. Android runs on x86; and there's no reason why you couldn't have an Intel Atom tablet.
Look at the price of current atom tablets
Even taking any windows tax into account the Intel Atom tax and its weakness in the power saving stakes compared to Arm makes it very hard for an atom tablet competitive with an Arm one.
Now that looks all manner of useful. What battery life are they claiming? Or would it be best to buy two, and use the spare when the first runs out of juice? ;)
Sorry, but even if they DO use the standard £=$ conversion technique, it'd still be tempting. At £300 it's a done deal.